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The judges are killing the show.
It's clear they have their favourites and overmark them hoping to keep them out of the danger zone. When they ignore all the mistakes and still give positive feedback to their chosen few whilst picking apart other contestants for the slightest thing, it makes my blood boil.
I think they should get rid of Len's deciding vote and go to the public vote in the later stages. |
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It's clear they have their favourites and overmark them hoping to keep them out of the danger zone. When they ignore all the mistakes and still give positive feedback to their chosen few whilst picking apart other contestants for the slightest thing, it makes my blood boil.
I think they should get rid of Len's deciding vote and go to the public vote in the later stages. :sleep::sleep::sleep: |
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The judges are killing the show
They did it a long time ago dear.
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Could we have a public vote - to get rid of the judges!
![]() I think there will be a mutiny if they engineer Chris and Ola's departure when they are winning the public vote by a landslide. |
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Could we have a public vote - to get rid of the judges!
![]() I think there will be a mutiny if they engineer Chris and Ola's departure when they are winning the public vote by a landslide. |
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The bus-woman doesn't favour Chris so bottom spot for Cola.
That's what I infer from her reported comments in the mee-jah anyway. |
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At least the OP has conceeded it's a "show" and not a "proper competition."
Would it be as popular and actually make the schedules without the "pantomime element?" Look what happened to "Come Dancing." It lost its popularity with the viewers and then the BBC kicked it around the schedules until they lost it too. |
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I think they should get rid of Len's deciding vote and go to the public vote in the later stages.
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It's clear they have their favourites and overmark them hoping to keep them out of the danger zone. When they ignore all the mistakes and still give positive feedback to their chosen few whilst picking apart other contestants for the slightest thing, it makes my blood boil.
I think they should get rid of Len's deciding vote and go to the public vote in the later stages. I agree, they have got to do something drastic if they want to save SCD. From when they voted Zoe off they had lost me, Ali did the DO in her slippers ,made mistakes and they still saved her, then we had Phil and Ricky, imo Phil was the one making strides in his learning, and guess what out he goes. |
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It's clear they have their favourites and overmark them hoping to keep them out of the danger zone. When they ignore all the mistakes and still give positive feedback to their chosen few whilst picking apart other contestants for the slightest thing, it makes my blood boil.
I think they should get rid of Len's deciding vote and go to the public vote in the later stages. But beyond that it seems entirely reasonable that they, at least the three dance professionals on the panel, should be consistently marking Ricky and Ali higher than the others, because they are clearly the better dancers. I'd agree if the dance-off goes to a deciding vote, then it should probably be the couple who scored highest with the public that is saved rather than Len's choice. In fact, I wouldn't be sad to see the dance-off scrapped altogether, given that it seems to have given the judges a power they didn't have in earlier series, which in turn seems to create a sour mood amongst some members of the public (or at least the forums ).But in terms of marking, I think the judges have basically got the positions of the couples right throughout the series, even if individual scoring has been erratic and tending, as ever, towards overmarking. |
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I know what lets get rid of the judges altogether just have a public vote and we could have a great final with John Sergeant & Chris Hollins fighting for the winners trophy
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I know what lets get rid of the judges altogether just have a public vote and we could have a great final with John Sergeant & Chris Hollins fighting for the winners trophy
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Is there anyone else like me, who's watched pretty much every show of every series, have never voted, doesn't care who wins, just watches simply for the entertainment value?
Thought so, not many, on here. |
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Let's go a step further and get rid on Len the self opinionated fool.
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I'm presuming that the 'favourites' you are referring to are Ali and Ricky? At least in Ricky's case, while I don't dispute that the judges would favour him to reach the final over, say, Chris, they have nevertheless found much to criticize over many weeks, now... and rightly so, given Ricky so rarely seems able to give a clean performance.
But beyond that it seems entirely reasonable that they, at least the three dance professionals on the panel, should be consistently marking Ricky and Ali higher than the others, because they are clearly the better dancers. I am continually perplexed by the implication that judges, paid to judge the dancing, are somehow acting arrogantly, magnignantly or improperly in consistently scoring the better dancers (in their informed opinions) more highly than others. |
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Isn't Len supposed to give his opinion? What would you have him do? Give yours?
Hear, hear. I am continually perplexed by the implication that judges, paid to judge the dancing, are somehow acting arrogantly, magnignantly or improperly in consistently scoring the better dancers (in their informed opinions) more highly than others. Wassat? (sorry! at least I properly read your post!) I'd suggest, with their penchant for self promotion, aggrandisement, hogging the camera and rehearsals of comments containing the most examples of onomatopoeia and alliteration, attention to actually scoring, was minimal. |
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It's clear they have their favourites and overmark them hoping to keep them out of the danger zone. When they ignore all the mistakes and still give positive feedback to their chosen few whilst picking apart other contestants for the slightest thing, it makes my blood boil.
I think they should get rid of Len's deciding vote and go to the public vote in the later stages. I fast forward now whenever the judges are on and it makes it a far more enjoyable, entertaining show. It eliminates the ridiculous element of the show
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With so few couples, it's all a bit of a lottery at this late stage.
That's why there should be no dance-off from the quarters onwards. It's ludicrous that the judges can override public opinion by sending home the most popular couple. |
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Ageed.
The judges get the chance to have their say by awarding points on their leaderboard. The public then have the opportunity to agree or disagree with the result by phoning in to vote. By putting the combined positions back to the judges, they are getting a second bite of the cherry. I thought it was supposed to be 50/50?? |
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Those pesky judges, giving the higher votes to the better dancers
what are they thinking of?
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Those pesky judges, giving the higher votes to the better dancers
what are they thinking of?![]() I've nothing against the better technicians being awarded better marks by the judges and having a higher place on the table. But once the judges have had their say, the rest should be up to us. I don't like that they get to meddle again after the public vote. |
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I seriously doubt their math skills are that good. All they can possibly do is put them in the bottom, and make sure there are no ties above them, and they're probably in the dance-off. Of course, now they have to get Darcy to go along with it, so the conspiracy will have to be pretty big!
Scenario 1 Ali 3 on judges 1 on public = 4 Chris 1 on judges 4 on public = 5 Ricky 4 on judges 2 on public = 6 Laila 2 on judges 3 on public = 5 Ali vs Laila in the dance off - Ali goes through Scenario 2 Ali 3 on judges 2 on public = 5 Chris 1 on judges 4 on public = 5 Ricky 4 on judges 1 on public = 5 Laila 2 on judges 3 on public = 5 Ali vs Ricky in the dance off - Ali goes out even though she got the same judges vote and was more popular with the public than under scenario 1. Total joke! There should be no dance off from the final 5 stage!
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Hi Star
![]() I've nothing against the better technicians being awarded better marks by the judges and having a higher place on the table. But once the judges have had their say, the rest should be up to us. I don't like that they get to meddle again after the public vote. Bottom 2 couples battle it out that way.
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Ageed.
The judges get the chance to have their say by awarding points on their leaderboard. The public then have the opportunity to agree or disagree with the result by phoning in to vote. By putting the combined positions back to the judges, they are getting a second bite of the cherry. I thought it was supposed to be 50/50?? |
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Yes, .. why didn't we go the whole hog and have a Chris Parker, John Sargeant, Julian Clary or Craig Kelly win??
Because frankly it would be embarrassing and the show would lose all credibility. I'm not surprised the judges have a modicum of control over the outcome .. when the public are solely in charge of voting we get idiots such as Kerry Katona and Christopher Biggins winning. If Chris can scrape it to the final .. and I expect he will, then he will win ... and fair play because he's worked hard (not at the dancing but at the cheeky chappy cutesy couple routine). |
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I'm wondering if they will politically mark Chris above Laila tonight to avoid him being in the dance off (even if he is top). If Chris went out I think the studio audience (and the BBC) might lynch Len and Alesha!
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what are they thinking of?
