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Laila is in their sights for tonite, at this stage with Chris topping public vote they can't get him. He's for the chop next week.
If Ali's routine is anything less than perfect she'll get all the criticism .. and if she is perfect then it'll be a case of 'it didn't move me' .. 'she wasn't sexy enough'. Chris couldn't look less sexy during his dancing ... but apparently that's another thing he doesn't have to be. |
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Those pesky judges, giving the higher votes to the better dancers
what are they thinking of?If its Chris vs Ali vs Ricky next week with Ali topping the judges vote and Ricky second there is NOTHING the public can do to save Chris. He will be out as Ali will never lose to Ricky for 2nd place in the public vote and Chris would never be picked in a dance off over those two! That is just wrong in my view - the viewers get cheated out of seeing their favourite win! |
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If Ali's routine is anything less than perfect she'll get all the criticism .. and if she is perfect then it'll be a case of 'it didn't move me' .. 'she wasn't sexy enough'. Chris couldn't look less sexy during his dancing ... but apparently that's another thing he doesn't have to be
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Actually that's quite a good point, are the men meant to look sexy? Does Chris look sexy? I'm not in a position to judge but I'm not sure he does.
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Last edited by fancynancy : 05-12-2009 at 15:30. Reason: Missed out a critical word!!!! |
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An intelligent man is nearly always sexy - in my opinion.
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An intelligent man is nearly always sexy - in my opinion.
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Another good point, smart is sexy...well sometimes.
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Yes - not always, but it's a big turn on for a lot of women. Add to that the fact that Chris has a great sense of humour, obviously - and overtly - knows how to have fun, is not afraid to make a complete ar$e of himself, and you have quite an appealing package.
![]() However, I wonder why Ali does get a lot of stick over this sexy thing where the blokes don't (and by blokes I mean Chris as I suppose Ricky is ok in this department and gets a lot of positive reforcement of his image from the judges...well Alesha). |
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Or engineering their votes to deliver their preferred outcome.
If its Chris vs Ali vs Ricky next week with Ali topping the judges vote and Ricky second there is NOTHING the public can do to save Chris. He will be out as Ali will never lose to Ricky for 2nd place in the public vote and Chris would never be picked in a dance off over those two! That is just wrong in my view - the viewers get cheated out of seeing their favourite win! |
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Hi Nancy, have just learnt something today.
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He would never be picked in a dance off because he is not as good a dancer as the other two. How is that unfair?
I want the public to decide who wins a reality show - not judges or elites. But then I'm an old fashioned guy - let the PEOPLE decide! |
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Because the public have picked him as their preferred choice - and in any case why should the judges get two sets of votes and the public one anyway!
I want the public to decide who wins a reality show - not judges or elites. But then I'm an old fashioned guy - let the PEOPLE decide! If you just want it to be a free for all public vote why bother with the judges at all? Hey! Why not even bother with proper dances? We could just have them come on, do the hokey cokey and vote on that. |
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No I agree I could never date a humourless but beautiful idiot. It would wear thin very quickly.
However, I wonder why Ali does get a lot of stick over this sexy thing where the blokes don't (and by blokes I mean Chris as I suppose Ricky is ok in this department and gets a lot of positive reforcement of his image from the judges...well Alesha). Ricky is undoubtedly beautiful to look at, but has about as much sex appeal as a - well, I won't say what, but because apart from anything else, I have no desire to upset his supporters. And I mean, none whatsoever. I'm just expressing a personal opinion. However, suffice to say that Ricky has no sex appeal because there's a lack of a certain vital spark. And I'll leave it at that. As for Ali? A difficult one, that. I remember posting very early on that (in reply to criticisms about her being 'wet') that women - and this is quite a generalisation - warm to other women who have a bit of chutzpah about them. That's possibly why she's been derided in a lot of quarters. Moving on from that, I think maybe there's a degree of frustration amongst some FMs (me included) that she can't get past that 'girly' stuff and be a strong, assertive woman - and exhibiting one's feminine allure, sex appeal, whatever you want to call it - is all part of that. Or something like that. Sits and waits to be hounded by Ricky and Ali fans.
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I don't think the judges are killing the show but it does frustrate me that they have their favourites (usually those who are good technically but lack any personality) and overmark them while undermarking the others.
The idea that they have the power to ensure that it is an Ali and Ricky final is terrible considering that people pay money to vote for the others. |
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I don't think the judges are killing the show but it does frustrate me that they have their favourites (usually those who are good technically but lack any personality) and overmark them while undermarking the others.
The idea that they have the power to ensure that it is an Ali and Ricky final is terrible considering that people pay money to vote for the others. The concept that if you dance well you get a good mark is not difficult to grasp.Also if you dance less well, no matter how 'entertaining' you are, you will not get as good a mark. |
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But the people do decide...from the best dancers
If you just want it to be a free for all public vote why bother with the judges at all? |
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You could also say the opposite................If the public are only allowed to choose from between the "best dancers", why have anyone else in the competition, or why have the public vote at all?
?If it was a prat around making faces competition I wouldn't be complaining if Chris got more marks than Ricky and Ali and I had to choose between him and someone else. |
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The judges give higher scores to the people who dance well. I am not sure why some people take offence at this
The concept that if you dance well you get a good mark is not difficult to grasp.Also if you dance less well, no matter how 'entertaining' you are, you will not get as good a mark. |
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Because it is a dance competition
?If it was a prat around making faces competition I wouldn't be complaining if Chris got more marks than Ricky and Ali and I had to choose between him and someone else. It's a light entertainment show, it's not serious so what does it matter if the person who maybe isn't the best technically wins? He is the most entertaining. |
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I'm not saying that Ali doesn't deserve high scores, I was merely suggesting that, IMO, she is overmarked a lot of the time.
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IT. IS. NOT. A. DANCE. COMPETITION. Why do some people find this so hard to understand?
It's an entertainment show. |
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Because it is a dance competition
?If it was a prat around making faces competition I wouldn't be complaining if Chris got more marks than Ricky and Ali and I had to choose between him and someone else. |
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IT. IS. NOT. A. DANCE. COMPETITION. Why do some people find this so hard to understand?
It's an entertainment show. I am not sure why some people find this so hard to understand |
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A lot of the time? I think not. And it is not confined to Ali. Chris got a 9 for his dreadful paso, just as an example, so the judges being erratic effects everyone.
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As someone, I can't remember who, said on another thread the other day, it is not a "dance competition", it is a "learning to dance" competition, so progression is an important element.
That's a subjective and interesting interpretation - others may disagree and say it's purely & simply a dance contest. |
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