Ricky danced superbly this evening so I do not understand why he isn't getting the votes. What is there not to like?
Ricky and Natalie must know...
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Originally Posted by *stargazer*:
“Excuse me - I have watched them for weeks and they have done nothing for me. You like them. I don't. I won't be loosing any sleep over it.”
“Excuse me - I have watched them for weeks and they have done nothing for me. You like them. I don't. I won't be loosing any sleep over it.”
And Ali and biran leave me a little bored. Lovely girl that she is. I just think meh. Love Chris and Ricky is the best dancer for me. Everyone has there own opinion. But down to the pure dancing Ricky is the best. But this isn't a dance competition.ir
Whne they came back and Tess said "What a comeback from you guys, in the dance off last week and now top of the leader board" I couldn't help but wince and think "Hold on love. There's a very good chance they could be again." 
Originally Posted by nickynoodle167:
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Is it the first time the top scorer has been in the dance off?”
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Is it the first time the top scorer has been in the dance off?”
No - Alesha was in exactly the same position in series 5, top of the leaderboard in a four couple quarter final, went into the DO then got through first the following week. So it still could be a lot closer than we think
Originally Posted by Garza:
“You guys keep on forgetting what was so blantantly clear last series... this is not a dancing competition, I wish it was, but it isn't.”
“You guys keep on forgetting what was so blantantly clear last series... this is not a dancing competition, I wish it was, but it isn't.”
I agree completely - and as my favourite had to withdraw due to injury I think I can safely claim neutrality.
I can understand the popularity of Chris and Ola; they're not the best dancers but they have fun and have captured the public imagination. Tonight, Ricky W and Natalie L were head and shoulders above everyone else tonight, so deservedly topped the leader board.
Tonight's dances did not suit Ali's English Rose persona; she didn't really deliver in either the tango or the samba, which made her 2nd position with the judges about right: but I'm at a bit of loss to understand how she leapfrogged Ricky in the public vote.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Tonight's dances did not suit Ali's English Rose persona; she didn't really deliver in either the tango or the samba, which made her 2nd position with the judges about right: but I'm at a bit of loss to understand how she leapfrogged Ricky in the public vote.”
“Tonight's dances did not suit Ali's English Rose persona; she didn't really deliver in either the tango or the samba, which made her 2nd position with the judges about right: but I'm at a bit of loss to understand how she leapfrogged Ricky in the public vote.”
She's a sweet but a bit dull and there is the all important selling point of: the romance. Ricky is sweet but a bit dull and there is no selling point.
Surely dance is a combination of technical ability and personality? Ricky leaves me cold and Natalie leaves me even colder.
And whether this is a dance competition or not is down to the individual viewer. I do think some people can be very snobby about this show.
It is what we want it to be and we can like who we want!
And whether this is a dance competition or not is down to the individual viewer. I do think some people can be very snobby about this show.
It is what we want it to be and we can like who we want!
Originally Posted by britishchippy:
“They might both be good dancers (although I think he's overrated, personally) but he's dull and she's too competitive to garner full public support. It's much easier to warm to Chris and Ali who seem to have the right balance of taking the show seriously without taking themselves too seriously.”
“They might both be good dancers (although I think he's overrated, personally) but he's dull and she's too competitive to garner full public support. It's much easier to warm to Chris and Ali who seem to have the right balance of taking the show seriously without taking themselves too seriously.”
You have a point there - the VTs don`t help their cause much either - Ola and Chris having a coffee and sandwich first compared to Ricky and Natalie concerned about nailing their performances etc etc.,
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“You have a point there - the VTs don`t help their cause much either - Ola and Chris having a coffee and sandwich first compared to Ricky and Natalie concerned about nailing their performances etc etc.,”
“You have a point there - the VTs don`t help their cause much either - Ola and Chris having a coffee and sandwich first compared to Ricky and Natalie concerned about nailing their performances etc etc.,”
That is a major point and it isn't helped by the fact that Ricky is in Liverpool and that he works so training has to be very intense and ITT and the VT's don't have a selling point with them. And maybe there isn't one. They could be all work work work.
They were so good tonight and still finished in the dance off, I feel really sorry for him.
I didn't get any of the cocky thing, he seems like a nice guy and he's a good dancer, such a shame.
I didn't get any of the cocky thing, he seems like a nice guy and he's a good dancer, such a shame.
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“You have a point there - the VTs don`t help their cause much either - Ola and Chris having a coffee and sandwich first compared to Ricky and Natalie concerned about nailing their performances etc etc.,”
“You have a point there - the VTs don`t help their cause much either - Ola and Chris having a coffee and sandwich first compared to Ricky and Natalie concerned about nailing their performances etc etc.,”
That's such a good observation.
Why do the editors persist in giving VTs that portray Ricky & Nat as ultra competitive? (I hope people suss it's all in the edit)
Originally Posted by Scattyjan:
“No - Alesha was in exactly the same position in series 5, top of the leaderboard in a four couple quarter final, went into the DO then got through first the following week. So it still could be a lot closer than we think”
“No - Alesha was in exactly the same position in series 5, top of the leaderboard in a four couple quarter final, went into the DO then got through first the following week. So it still could be a lot closer than we think
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Just saw Jill's comment and she's spot on - Gethin was top! I just assumed it must have been Alesha! So ignore my comment!
Originally Posted by Caro07:
“They were so good tonight and still finished in the dance off, I feel really sorry for him.
I didn't get any of the cocky thing, he seems like a nice guy and he's a good dancer, such a shame.”
“They were so good tonight and still finished in the dance off, I feel really sorry for him.
I didn't get any of the cocky thing, he seems like a nice guy and he's a good dancer, such a shame.”
At my age I'm experienced at judging character and Ricky is not cocky IMHO. I think he's a very nice bloke who is delighted to keep going through. Most important of all he's the best dancer. I don't know what else people want.
Originally Posted by pickledgherkin:
“Ricky danced superbly this evening so I do not understand why he isn't getting the votes. What is there not to like?”
“Ricky danced superbly this evening so I do not understand why he isn't getting the votes. What is there not to like?”
I don't think it's a case of not liking Ricky, but one of not liking him enough to pick up the phone and vote for him or prefering someone else.
It's a shame as he was streets ahead of the rest tonight but that's the nature of the show.
It's no good being an excellent dancer if you can't connect with the audience as well. And that's not something you can fix or force. People either take to you or they don't.
Just cant warm to Ricky and Natalie, even his dancing doesnt inspire me. I do like Ali and Brian and their dancing, but Cola are the ones who nail it for me. And judging by the response to them viewers agree.
Would love to see Ali and Chris in the final.
Would love to see Ali and Chris in the final.
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“Well you missed two fantastic dances that put the others to shame. Still I suppose it makes it easier to dislike someone if you don't actually see with your own eyes how good they are.”
“Well you missed two fantastic dances that put the others to shame. Still I suppose it makes it easier to dislike someone if you don't actually see with your own eyes how good they are.”
I believe this is a Freudian clue. An appreciative fan describes "two fantastic dances", not "a fabulous dancer". I believe fans reporting Matthew Cutler dancing would have used the second description, i.e. fans warm to him as a man as well as his performance.
Ricky has a problem about connecting with the public. Note to Ricky, do not run for parliament.
Would you like Chris and Ola to come to your Xmas dinner -- or Ricky and Natalie?
Originally Posted by tawny:
“I don't think the problem is with him its her. She is very cocky & looked so gleeful when the judges were voting for them - no modesty whatsoever.”
“I don't think the problem is with him its her. She is very cocky & looked so gleeful when the judges were voting for them - no modesty whatsoever.”
Too true Tawny, Ricky is a great dancer it is Natalie that is his problem he would be streets ahead if was with, say Katya, or Ola!!
I like him!
Originally Posted by maggie48:
“At my age I'm experienced at judging character and Ricky is not cocky IMHO. I think he's a very nice bloke who is delighted to keep going through. Most important of all he's the best dancer. I don't know what else people want.”
“At my age I'm experienced at judging character and Ricky is not cocky IMHO. I think he's a very nice bloke who is delighted to keep going through. Most important of all he's the best dancer. I don't know what else people want.”
At my age I am too ...................and disagree
Originally Posted by Chris1347:
“Too true Tawny, Ricky is a great dancer it is Natalie that is his problem he would be streets ahead if was with, say Katya, or Ola!! I like him!”
“Too true Tawny, Ricky is a great dancer it is Natalie that is his problem he would be streets ahead if was with, say Katya, or Ola!!
I like him!”
I agree that Natalie seems to be a large part of the problem, something about her that stops me and others wanting them to do well. Maybe partly because we do not know her. I remember thinking that Ola was quite cold and competitive during her first series, now I think she is a sweetie, but probably no less competitive.
I think the other problem with Ricky is that from the start he has been so good, and whereas when I watch Chris I am willing him to do well and nervous for him, this doesn't apply to Ricky.
It is a shame and he must feel negative that his public vote is not as high as Ali and Chris, but I am not sure if there is a "solution" for this for him to find.
I'm not a Ricky fan. He's a great dancer but I find their routines very forgettable aside from that awesome QS a few weeks ago. It annoys me to be honest that he's so good but the routines rarely seem to come alive.
But...I think he could still win it. If they pull out some great routines that entertain as much as show off his ability it could sway people to pick up the phone. He's clearly the better dancer, they just need to get the fun factor.
But then I thought he would still outperform Ali in the voting so what do I know
But...I think he could still win it. If they pull out some great routines that entertain as much as show off his ability it could sway people to pick up the phone. He's clearly the better dancer, they just need to get the fun factor.
But then I thought he would still outperform Ali in the voting so what do I know
Originally Posted by maggie48:
“At my age I'm experienced at judging character and Ricky is not cocky IMHO. I think he's a very nice bloke who is delighted to keep going through. Most important of all he's the best dancer. I don't know what else people want.”
“At my age I'm experienced at judging character and Ricky is not cocky IMHO. I think he's a very nice bloke who is delighted to keep going through. Most important of all he's the best dancer. I don't know what else people want.”
Being older than other people does not mean you are automatically right, it is your opinion - I could say the fact I am quite young means I can speak for the younger generation consistently, but I don't. Opinion is subjective. Get over yourself.
Originally Posted by Lizzie8008:
“I'm not a Ricky fan. He's a great dancer but I find their routines very forgettable aside from that awesome QS a few weeks ago. It annoys me to be honest that he's so good but the routines rarely seem to come alive.
But...I think he could still win it. If they pull out some great routines that entertain as much as show off his ability it could sway people to pick up the phone. He's clearly the better dancer, they just need to get the fun factor.
But then I thought he would still outperform Ali in the voting so what do I know”
“I'm not a Ricky fan. He's a great dancer but I find their routines very forgettable aside from that awesome QS a few weeks ago. It annoys me to be honest that he's so good but the routines rarely seem to come alive.
But...I think he could still win it. If they pull out some great routines that entertain as much as show off his ability it could sway people to pick up the phone. He's clearly the better dancer, they just need to get the fun factor.
But then I thought he would still outperform Ali in the voting so what do I know
”
Really was a fantastic dance.
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Being older than other people does not mean you are automatically right, it is your opinion - I could say the fact I am quite young means I can speak for the younger generation consistently, but I don't. Opinion is subjective. Get over yourself.”
“Being older than other people does not mean you are automatically right, it is your opinion - I could say the fact I am quite young means I can speak for the younger generation consistently, but I don't. Opinion is subjective. Get over yourself.”
Well said , being no spring chicken myself , I hate people puling an age card to feel superior
Originally Posted by citylawgirl:
“I'm not too sure what Ricky has done to keep getting in the bottom two. He's clearly a very good dancer, not my favourite, but still a good dancer. He was top of the leader board, yet in the bottom two. Is it because he's a bit too cocky, maybe that's it.
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“I'm not too sure what Ricky has done to keep getting in the bottom two. He's clearly a very good dancer, not my favourite, but still a good dancer. He was top of the leader board, yet in the bottom two. Is it because he's a bit too cocky, maybe that's it.
”
To be honest, it's chris who's starting to get cocky really.
"Oooooh look at me I'm such a gurning fun hobbit, lolololololol"
Originally Posted by Chris1347:
“Too true Tawny, Ricky is a great dancer it is Natalie that is his problem he would be streets ahead if was with, say Katya, or Ola!! I like him!”
“Too true Tawny, Ricky is a great dancer it is Natalie that is his problem he would be streets ahead if was with, say Katya, or Ola!!
I like him!”
Katya to me comes across a bit of a coldhearted woman, not likeable at all, plus, the more I see of her in pro routines, she just isn't up to the same standard as the other female pros.
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