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Don't bother with the semis and final
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welwynrose
05-12-2009
You might as well give Chris and Ola the trophy now
*Laura*
05-12-2009
Aye, I think all he could do the "okey kokey" and people would vote for him. I'm not knocking him because I've voted for some "turkeys" in the past but, I don't see how he can lose.
welwynrose
05-12-2009
If it ends up an Ali and Chris final I won't bother watching combination of dull and dismal
black_vine
05-12-2009
Chris is a nice guy but he's not the nicest dancer.
I hope the public make a good decision.
Muttley76
05-12-2009
Amazing. There are threads proclaiming Chris has already won at the same time as threads stating he will definitely go next week!
laineythenomad
05-12-2009
I don't understand. I think it's the other way round - Chris won't survive a dance off against Ali or Ricky, much as I love him, the judges have got the result sewn up already. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
SideshowStu
05-12-2009
I don't think it's that simple tbh. The order of public popularity appears to be Chris, Ali then Ricky. If Ali finishes top next week and Chris finishes bottom he's a gonner regardless of how many people vote for him.
Blahgirl
05-12-2009
I agree. Chris is OK good even, but they would be the worst winners since Darren Gough in season 2. Especially disappointing when Ricky Whitle is the best dancer this season wont mke the final.
Apricot
05-12-2009
It is a joke - I can't believe people have been suckered by the Chris/Ola marketing campaign - but hey I think, after tonight, we know who the best dancer is.

I hope Ricky takes his dignified exit next week because further participation is wasted effort.
Muttley76
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by laineythenomad:
“I don't understand. I think it's the other way round - Chris won't survive a dance off against Ali or Ricky, much as I love him, the judges have got the result sewn up already. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.”

If the contestants finish in the same order with the public and the judges next week as they did this week, Chris would be through. If Ali gets the most points from the judges one would assume Chris and Ricky would be in the bottom 2, assuming there is one.
MARTYM8
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Amazing. There are threads proclaiming Chris has already won at the same time as threads stating he will definitely go next week!”

The only people who think Chris is going to win this don't understand the voting system.

Unless there is a rollover (all 3 go to the final) he is certain to go next week even if he tops the public vote!

If it was just down to the public vote Chris would win easily. But the judges will override that democratic decison.
Vodka_Drinka
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“If it ends up an Ali and Chris final I won't bother watching combination of dull and dismal”

Bye then:yawn:

I do think some people need to remember that this is an entertainment programme not a serious dancing competition. I have no idea why certain people take it so seriousley?
Muttley76
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Unless there is a rollover (all 3 go to the final) he is certain to go next week even if he tops the public vote!”

but he isn't. Like I said if it finishes like this week it would be as follows:

Ricky - 3 + 1 = 4
Ali - 2 +2 = 4
Chris - 1 + 3 = 4

In which case, Chris would be through.
laineythenomad
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“If the contestants finish in the same order with the public and the judges next week as they did this week, Chris would be through. If Ali gets the most points from the judges one would assume Chris and Ricky would be in the bottom 2, assuming there is one.”

But that's my point - if he ends up in the bottom 2 he's a goner because the judges would never save him over Ricky.
Muttley76
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by laineythenomad:
“But that's my point - if he ends up in the bottom 2 he's a goner because the judges would never save him over Ricky. ”

but why do you assume that Ricky won't get the max points from the judges next week again? He may well do! If he does Chris would be through unless there is a radical change in the public vote....
MARTYM8
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“If the contestants finish in the same order with the public and the judges next week as they did this week, Chris would be through. If Ali gets the most points from the judges one would assume Chris and Ricky would be in the bottom 2, assuming there is one.”

If Ali tops the judges vote next week I for one will know the judges are rigging it given the judges vote tonight! Cos Ali topping the judges vote will mean a Ricky vs Chris dance off as Ricky will be bottom of the public vote and Chris top.

Chris
1 judges pt plus 3 public = 4
Ali
3 judges plus 2 public = 5
Ricky
2 judges plus 1 public = 3

Chris and Ricky in the dance off - Chris goes despite being the public's favourite!
Muggsy
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Bye then:yawn:

I do think some people need to remember that this is an entertainment programme not a serious dancing competition. I have no idea why certain people take it so seriousley?”

Perhaps they took James' words from last year seriously.
Dr. Jan Itor
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“The only people who think Chris is going to win this don't understand the voting system.

Unless there is a rollover (all 3 go to the final) he is certain to go next week even if he tops the public vote!

If it was just down to the public vote Chris would win easily. But the judges will override that democratic decison.”

I don't think you should be complaining about others not understanding the voting system when you clearly don't understand it yourself. He is not certain to go next week. He can still avoid the dance-off from the bottom of the leaderboard.
MARTYM8
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“but why do you assume that Ricky won't get the max points from the judges next week again? He may well do! If he does Chris would be through unless there is a radical change in the public vote....”

Yes - but (a) the judges vote before having seen all the dancers and (b) their voting is arbitrary e.g. an 8 vs a 9 from one judge can override hundreds of thousands of viewers votes.

Just scrap the dance off - have a combined judges and public score and whoever is bottom out of the 3 goes!
KDee
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“You might as well give Chris and Ola the trophy now”

That’s funny, I was just thinking the same thing.
It’s a shame really because I thought the program was called Strictly come DANCING not Strictly come Entertaining. I know the show has to be 'entertaining' but surely the dance should come first and foremost?
MARTYM8
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by KDee:
“That’s funny, I was just thinking the same thing.
It’s a shame really because I thought the program was called Strictly come DANCING not Strictly come Entertaining. I know the show has to be 'entertaining' but surely the dance should come first and foremost?”

For people who enjoy the show you clearly don't understand the voting procedure if you think Chris will win just because he tops the public vote each week!
Muttley76
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“If Ali tops the judges vote next week I for one will know the judges are rigging it given the judges vote tonight!”

right well i think that would depend on how they danced on the night, tbh. You can't say it would be at this stage. And secondly, it is clearly inaccurate to be stating there is no way Chris can get through next week when he clearly can.

I personally don't see any reason why the show wouldn't want Chris to make the final, given he is so popular with the viewers. I think people on all sides of this debate read too much in to things.
Tissy
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“If Ali tops the judges vote next week I for one will know the judges are rigging it given the judges vote tonight! Cos Ali topping the judges vote will mean a Ricky vs Chris dance off as Ricky will be bottom of the public vote and Chris top.

Chris
1 judges pt plus 3 public = 4
Ali
3 judges plus 2 public = 5
Ricky
2 judges plus 1 public = 3

Chris and Ricky in the dance off - Chris goes despite being the public's favourite!”

What if Ali dances the best routines next week ?
Paperbag_Writer
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“Perhaps they took James' words from last year seriously.”

Hmmm... I wonder if James will maintain the same stance now that his other half on the brink of Strictly glory with a popular but decidedly average dancer.
Muttley76
05-12-2009
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“What if Ali dances the best routines next week ?”

thats the thing, she may well do, hell even Chris may do!

All these assumptions about what will happen next week are crazy really!
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