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Old 07-12-2009, 16:40
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can anyone recommend what make/type of 1tb hard drive
to upgrade factory 320gb drive, do i need extra cables & accessories?.
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Old 07-12-2009, 16:46
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can anyone recommend what make/type of 1tb hard drive
to upgrade factory 320gb drive, do i need extra cables & accessories?.
thanks
Western Digital WD10evcs and you don't need anything else (It's a straight swap)
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Old 07-12-2009, 16:50
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Western Digital WD10evcs and you don't need anything else (It's a straight swap)
I think the current 1TB/32MB Cache version of that is now the WD10EVDS here.

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Old 07-12-2009, 16:59
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I think the current 1TB/32MB Cache version of that is now the WD10EVDS here.

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I should have scrabbled behind my hdr to read the label on the newer drive
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Old 07-12-2009, 17:00
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sorry want to leave it external.
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Old 07-12-2009, 17:02
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I should have scrabbled behind my hdr to read the label on the newer drive
Oh now you're just showing off, 1 int/ext and 1 external 1TB drives

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Old 07-12-2009, 17:04
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sorry want to leave it external.
Are you looking to add an external USB HDD or an esata modded Ext HDD?

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Old 07-12-2009, 17:08
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the esata external drive
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Old 07-12-2009, 17:12
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the esata external drive
See here for what you need, and how to do it :-

http://foxsatdisk.wikispaces.com/The+eSATA+modification

You may want to consider getting a USB+eSata Caddy, with the a WD10EVDS, instead of a fixed enclosure, as you can then swap disks at will, when the box is switched off, plus connect up to it with your PC via USB.

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Old 07-12-2009, 17:15
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thank you for all your help les & graham
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Old 07-12-2009, 17:29
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no one has any in stock
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Old 07-12-2009, 17:38
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no one has any in stock
WD products often seem to go out of stock at Xmas times, but sometimes it indicates that they are about to update the Product Line (again !!).

Just have to keep looking at the stock figures on those sites.

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Old 07-12-2009, 18:35
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Oh now you're just showing off, 1 int/ext and 1 external 1TB drives

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Les the externals already about 40% full and the internal ones at 68%. I will soon have to stick the original 320Gb drive in the caddy or buy another 1Tb.

Trouble is no matter how much space you have you always seem to fill it

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Old 07-12-2009, 18:46
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Les the externals already about 40% full and the internal ones at 68%. I will soon have to stick the original 320Gb drive in the caddy or buy another 1Tb.

Trouble is no matter how much space you have you always seem to fill it

Graham
Crikey, Graham, that's a lot

Do you keep series/programmes to watch again?

I'm of the watch it and bin it school, I can't watch programmes again, I know what's coming (Have we had this conversation before? I'm feeling a sense of Deja-vu, but it could be senility is creeping in ).

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Old 07-12-2009, 22:06
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the esata external drive
This choice wisely avoids having to cut the tape that voids the Humax guarantee.

However many like Graham have expertly swapped out the internal hard drive.
Do we know of any such owners who have later had to invoke the guarantee, because of an unrelated failure? & how was their claim received?

(Thanks Les & Graham for the practical advice. I think that I am near to having to do one of these expansions.)

David

P.S. "Posting time" 2 hrs after when I actually posted in UK.
MODERATORS what is that all about? Are you based in Russia?

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Old 07-12-2009, 22:53
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Just read above & now realise that my post was incorrect.

I had falsely assumed it related to a USB connected external HD.

What is the best choice via USB 2 ?
Is it much slower?

David
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:09
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However many like Graham have expertly swapped out the internal hard drive.
Do we know of any such owners who have later had to invoke the guarantee, because of an unrelated failure? & how was their claim received?
It's not an expert thing (with all due kudos to Graham and co). It's a doddle. And the little label peels off very easily - mine didn't even have one on.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:21
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It's not an expert thing (with all due kudos to Graham and co). It's a doddle. And the little label peels off very easily - mine didn't even have one on.
I've swapped a hard-drive in Sky+ box that was out of guarantee, but I was outside my comfort zone.
Knowing what goes where & avoiding static charge damage does need expertise, & in my view. 99% of the population might well avoid doing these things.

I think that I could follow the detailed pictorial guide quoted by
Savvy, however I am still interested in the Humax reaction to a guarantee claim by someone who had opened the STB.

Meanwhile to preserve my rights I'd prefer to record to a USB connected drive.

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Old 08-12-2009, 09:46
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Just read above & now realise that my post was incorrect.

I had falsely assumed it related to a USB connected external HD.

What is the best choice via USB 2 ?
Is it much slower?

David
One of my 1Tb drives is connected to the rear USB port.

Both the internal and external drives are mounted externally in one of these

http://www.allcam.biz/catalog/produc...roducts_id=693

The only difference is one is connected into the hdr using an esata cable effectively making the internal drive swappable. The other is connected by usb. To use the external drive for HD storage requires it to be formatted Linux EXT3. You can't record to the USB drive directly but you can move pretty well all BBC HD and all SD to the drive after recording and with the new firmware you can play it back from there as well.

Transfer over USB is not that quick but it's not a problem using edit mode in file manager. I normally accumulate a full series of HD programmes, multiselect them and leave the hdr to get on with it. Not really timed it but it takes maybe about an hour to transfer 6 1Hr BBC HD episodes
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:43
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The internal swap really is trivially easy. The most difficult thing is guiding the screws back into their holes.

The replacement drive does seem a bit noisier (and yes i have used one of the recommend WD drives but not noticable in use and probably just me sticking my ear next to it).

My Foxsat does seem more reliable than it used to. I've tracked down my 'turn itself off' behaviour to the volume codes on my Harmony remote. Learning the codes from my Sony Amp remote (rather than using those in the database) seems to have helped.

I still think the Foxsat exhibits a bit of an odd response to remote instructions and that you can force some sort of 'buffer overun' by sending too many instructions just after it has come out of standby but all this is unrelated to drive replacement.

if yours has been up and running for a few months it's unlikely to fail in use so the chance of you needed a warranty repair is very low.
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Old 10-12-2009, 20:31
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One of my 1Tb drives is connected to the rear USB port.

Both the internal and external drives are mounted externally in one of these

http://www.allcam.biz/catalog/produc...roducts_id=693

The only difference is one is connected into the hdr using an esata cable effectively making the internal drive swappable. The other is connected by usb. To use the external drive for HD storage requires it to be formatted Linux EXT3. You can't record to the USB drive directly but you can move pretty well all BBC HD and all SD to the drive after recording and with the new firmware you can play it back from there as well.

Transfer over USB is not that quick but it's not a problem using edit mode in file manager. I normally accumulate a full series of HD programmes, multiselect them and leave the hdr to get on with it. Not really timed it but it takes maybe about an hour to transfer 6 1Hr BBC HD episodes
Thanks for the advice Graham.
I should have asked earlier, I'm just about to go to Spain, so no time to collect mail orders til Feb.
Meanwhile, as preparation, I must find time to learn to use Linux, I have a disc to use without installing.

David
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Old 10-12-2009, 20:43
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The internal swap really is trivially easy. The most difficult thing is guiding the screws back into their holes.

if yours has been up and running for a few months it's unlikely to fail in use so the chance of you needed a warranty repair is very low.
I agree that an internal swap, or a pseudo internal, would be best in long term but I am concerned with an occasional loss of signal on 1 tuner. I have not discerned a repeatable pattern yet & it is infrequent so far, but I may need to seek a repair or replacement eventually.
I know that I could do it, because I did a similar swap on an old Sky+ box.
Graham's USB connection will therefore suit me as an interim.
Thanks anyway.
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