Talk abouet being fixd. Shame on you BBC
No point watching - FIXED for BBC employee to win
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So how precisely can the BBC fix a public vote of hundreds of thousands of people?
Please illuminate me!
Please illuminate me!
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“So how precisely can the BBC fix a public vote of hundreds of thousands of people?”
“So how precisely can the BBC fix a public vote of hundreds of thousands of people?”
Prove that 100s of 1000s vote.
Not that anyone said the votes would be fixed. The "fix" is the near-last-minute rule-change.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Prove that 100s of 1000s vote.
Not that anyone said the votes would be fixed. The "fix" is the near-last-minute rule-change.”
“Prove that 100s of 1000s vote.
Not that anyone said the votes would be fixed. The "fix" is the near-last-minute rule-change.”
Well tens of thousands at least then - the X factor gets several million votes in the final so I would expect SCD gets a few hundred thousand as its ratings are only a little lower.
And in the end whoever tops the public vote this week and next will win - so Ali and Ricky have not been 'fixed' out of anything. If they win the public vote they win the show!
Its amazing how so many people on hear hate the thought of a public vote i.e. democracy. I've heard North Korea is lovely at this time of year.
Originally Posted by ericaf:
“Talk abouet being fixd. Shame on you BBC”
“Talk abouet being fixd. Shame on you BBC”
Pah, you'd not be saying that if you'd spotted Hollins 33/1 on Betfair back in October.
well if chris is popular he would go through to the final anyway so i cant see it bein a fix
of course he shouldnt win hes not the best but it tends to go on persnoality like last year with tom
of course he shouldnt win hes not the best but it tends to go on persnoality like last year with tom
I thought the system of elimination from the contest had just returned to how it used to be(and still should be) in the first four series(ahhh the good old days).Admittedly it should have been done earlier in the series but still prefer it to a dance off (and I don't really care who wins I actually like them all!)
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Well tens of thousands at least then - the X factor gets several million votes in the final so I would expect SCD gets a few hundred thousand as its ratings are only a little lower.
And in the end whoever tops the public vote this week and next will win - so Ali and Ricky have not been 'fixed' out of anything. If they win the public vote they win the show!
Its amazing how so many people on hear hate the thought of a public vote i.e. democracy. I've heard North Korea is lovely at this time of year.”
“Well tens of thousands at least then - the X factor gets several million votes in the final so I would expect SCD gets a few hundred thousand as its ratings are only a little lower.
And in the end whoever tops the public vote this week and next will win - so Ali and Ricky have not been 'fixed' out of anything. If they win the public vote they win the show!
Its amazing how so many people on hear hate the thought of a public vote i.e. democracy. I've heard North Korea is lovely at this time of year.
”
Precisely
Most of Ali's fans (Ricky doesn't seem to have any on here) wanted Chris out of the way so that the little madam would walk all over Ricky when it comes to votes. They were obviously relying on the judges to get rid off him as they are the only ones who could. I mean Ali could still win if they vote hard enough....
Originally Posted by *Liya*:
“Precisely
Most of Ali's fans (Ricky doesn't seem to have any on here) wanted Chris out of the way so that the little madam would walk all over Ricky when it comes to votes. They were obviously relying on the judges to get rid off him as they are the only ones who could. I mean Ali could still win if they vote hard enough....”
“Precisely
Most of Ali's fans (Ricky doesn't seem to have any on here) wanted Chris out of the way so that the little madam would walk all over Ricky when it comes to votes. They were obviously relying on the judges to get rid off him as they are the only ones who could. I mean Ali could still win if they vote hard enough....
”
Why say that? You make anything you might have had to say less relevant when you make comments like that. Apart from anything else, it's a ridiculous thing to say about Ali.
Originally Posted by ericaf:
“Talk abouet being fixd. Shame on you BBC”
“Talk abouet being fixd. Shame on you BBC”
Do you really think the BBC would risk the wrath of the nation, ofcom and Parliament for the sake of one of their sports reporters winning a dance competition.
Originally Posted by allisonbm2:
“I thought the system of elimination from the contest had just returned to how it used to be(and still should be) in the first four series(ahhh the good old days).Admittedly it should have been done earlier in the series but still prefer it to a dance off (and I don't really care who wins I actually like them all!)”
“I thought the system of elimination from the contest had just returned to how it used to be(and still should be) in the first four series(ahhh the good old days).Admittedly it should have been done earlier in the series but still prefer it to a dance off (and I don't really care who wins I actually like them all!)”
Exactly.
Andf if Chris does make the final surely it's down to the other person's fans to see that they win anyway.
No fix at all. Just sorting out a glaring error that should have been anticipated the moment Jade had to withdraw.
You would think after 4 years of the same thing happening they'd have figured it out by now that to ensure a 3 person final, have no-one leave the week someone withdraws. It's not rocket science.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Do you really think the BBC would risk the wrath of the nation, ofcom and Parliament for the sake of one of their sports reporters winning a dance competition.”
“Do you really think the BBC would risk the wrath of the nation, ofcom and Parliament for the sake of one of their sports reporters winning a dance competition.”
Yes - and a sports reporter on breakfast TV as well!
He's hardly in the multi million pound salary Wogan or Ross league.
If the BBC fixed it for one of their employees to win Strictly, why didn't they do it for Gethin (Blue Peter) or Matt Dawson (Question of Sport)?
What a lot of nonsense!
What a lot of nonsense!
I don't think it's anything to do with Chris Hollins being a BBC employee at all.
Two years ago, after the Gethin elimination in the semi, I wrote a long:yawn: complaint to the exec producer about the inequities of the system that you could be voting for someone but your vote would only count to save that person dependent on the amount of votes for the other contestants i.e. I was voting to save my favourite but there were strings attached. I sent it in December and got a standard BS reply in May of the following year
Last year, the same scenario loomed with Tom but, as the voting figures are not released, the BBC obviously felt secure to continue with the same system until the tie in the semi led to rapid re-think.
This year, people are clued up and have taken action - good on them (although as a Ricky fan it doesn't really suit his situation - it has to be a fairer way of doing things).
The only thing that concerns me is when the dancers learned of the change? Did they know before they chose their routines for the semi?
I do wonder if, for example, Ricky & Nat might've chosen the QS as an audience & public vote grabber rather than the safer but less spectacular waltz which might be a more secure routine with less chance of going wrong in a Dance Off.
Two years ago, after the Gethin elimination in the semi, I wrote a long:yawn: complaint to the exec producer about the inequities of the system that you could be voting for someone but your vote would only count to save that person dependent on the amount of votes for the other contestants i.e. I was voting to save my favourite but there were strings attached. I sent it in December and got a standard BS reply in May of the following year
Last year, the same scenario loomed with Tom but, as the voting figures are not released, the BBC obviously felt secure to continue with the same system until the tie in the semi led to rapid re-think.
This year, people are clued up and have taken action - good on them (although as a Ricky fan it doesn't really suit his situation - it has to be a fairer way of doing things).
The only thing that concerns me is when the dancers learned of the change? Did they know before they chose their routines for the semi?
I do wonder if, for example, Ricky & Nat might've chosen the QS as an audience & public vote grabber rather than the safer but less spectacular waltz which might be a more secure routine with less chance of going wrong in a Dance Off.
Originally Posted by Apricot:
“I don't think it's anything to do with Chris Hollins being a BBC employee at all.
Two years ago, after the Gethin elimination in the semi, I wrote a long:yawn: complaint to the exec producer about the inequities of the system that you could be voting for someone but your vote would only count to save that person dependent on the amount of votes for the other contestants i.e. I was voting to save my favourite but there were strings attached. I sent it in December and got a standard BS reply in May of the following year
Last year, the same scenario loomed with Tom but, as the voting figures are not released, the BBC obviously felt secure to continue with the same system until the tie in the semi led to rapid re-think.
This year, people are clued up and have taken action - good on them (although as a Ricky fan it doesn't really suit his situation - it has to be a fairer way of doing things).
The only thing that concerns me is when the dancers learned of the change? Did they know before they chose their routines for the semi?
I do wonder if, for example, Ricky & Nat might've chosen the QS as an audience & public vote grabber rather than the safer but less spectacular waltz which might be a more secure routine with less chance of going wrong in a Dance Off.”
“I don't think it's anything to do with Chris Hollins being a BBC employee at all.
Two years ago, after the Gethin elimination in the semi, I wrote a long:yawn: complaint to the exec producer about the inequities of the system that you could be voting for someone but your vote would only count to save that person dependent on the amount of votes for the other contestants i.e. I was voting to save my favourite but there were strings attached. I sent it in December and got a standard BS reply in May of the following year
Last year, the same scenario loomed with Tom but, as the voting figures are not released, the BBC obviously felt secure to continue with the same system until the tie in the semi led to rapid re-think.
This year, people are clued up and have taken action - good on them (although as a Ricky fan it doesn't really suit his situation - it has to be a fairer way of doing things).
The only thing that concerns me is when the dancers learned of the change? Did they know before they chose their routines for the semi?
I do wonder if, for example, Ricky & Nat might've chosen the QS as an audience & public vote grabber rather than the safer but less spectacular waltz which might be a more secure routine with less chance of going wrong in a Dance Off.”
I don know about the dancers but the judges knew when they were judging on Saturday.....both Darcey and Alesha told people they should be in the 'the final' not the semi final and I must admit I did think then that wasnt a slip of the tongue.
People may want to think of this as an outrage etc etc etc but in fact all thats happened is that we have got a 3 person final spread over 2 weeks.....one couple always leaves (by public vote and judges scores alone) after the first stage of a 3 person final .....and thats whats happening now just its a week early rather than a few minutes before the show dance stage.
It's such hysteria to claim the BBC want to fix anything. What they want to do is prevent a melt down in public opinion. They've added a series of sticking plasters to flaws in the show over the years, but never truly thought through any of their solutions. Contingency planning has been sh*te. Their maths skills have been sh*te.
Now all the little idiocies have come home to roost and they find they can't use any solution without upsetting one of two schools of thought (dance v entertainment) in audience opinion.
It's not the Illuminati. It's not David Icke. V's lizards have nothing to do with it. There's no BBC conspiracy.
There's a pile of incompetence. Simple as that.
Now all the little idiocies have come home to roost and they find they can't use any solution without upsetting one of two schools of thought (dance v entertainment) in audience opinion.
It's not the Illuminati. It's not David Icke. V's lizards have nothing to do with it. There's no BBC conspiracy.
There's a pile of incompetence. Simple as that.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Why say that? You make anything you might have had to say less relevant when you make comments like that. Apart from anything else, it's a ridiculous thing to say about Ali.”
“Why say that? You make anything you might have had to say less relevant when you make comments like that. Apart from anything else, it's a ridiculous thing to say about Ali.”
I agree that that turn of phrase was unnecessary - but it pales into insignificance next to the personal insults some of Ali's fans have directed at Chris in the past fortnight.
I'm not saying that this justifies Chris' fans using the same tactics with other contestants - but this remark is actually quite mild in the grand scheme of things and, in general, I am (so far) quite proud that Team Cola's fans have managed to rise above some of the factually inaccurate and personally insulting attacks made on their favourites, defending them without responding to like with like.
Not forgetting, of course, the claim that the BBC has fixed SCD7 so Chris can win it - if the OP wants to think that, fine, but there isn't a shred of evidence to back this up. More desperate tactics that hold no water.
On the basis of what we've seen so far, I prefer Chris to the other two - but there is still time for that to change. If Ricky or Ali up their performance skills - the lack of which I reckon have distanced many viewers from them - the tables could still turn. I don't think what happens now is a foregone conclusion by any means - especially given that the AT is one of the dances this weekend ...
PS gorgalon - absolutely.
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“It's such hysteria to claim the BBC want to fix anything. What they want to do is prevent a melt down in public opinion. They've added a series of sticking plasters to flaws in the show over the years, but never truly thought through any of their solutions. Contingency planning has been sh*te. Their maths skills have been sh*te.
Now all the little idiocies have come home to roost and they find they can't use any solution without upsetting one of two schools of thought (dance v entertainment) in audience opinion.
It's not the Illuminati. It's not David Icke. V's lizards have nothing to do with it. There's no BBC conspiracy.
There's a pile of incompetence. Simple as that.”
“It's such hysteria to claim the BBC want to fix anything. What they want to do is prevent a melt down in public opinion. They've added a series of sticking plasters to flaws in the show over the years, but never truly thought through any of their solutions. Contingency planning has been sh*te. Their maths skills have been sh*te.
Now all the little idiocies have come home to roost and they find they can't use any solution without upsetting one of two schools of thought (dance v entertainment) in audience opinion.
It's not the Illuminati. It's not David Icke. V's lizards have nothing to do with it. There's no BBC conspiracy.
There's a pile of incompetence. Simple as that.”
Great post.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“So how precisely can the BBC fix a public vote of hundreds of thousands of people?
Please illuminate me!”
“So how precisely can the BBC fix a public vote of hundreds of thousands of people?
Please illuminate me!
”
Hundreds of thiusands? Where did you get your figures from? The only people I have heard speak of personally voting are the likes of Sian phillips publically boasting of the dozens of calls she has made for Hollins to win. Possibly from a publicly funded BBC telephone.
I know scores of people from several generations who watch SCD religiously. They never vote and have no interest in joining the minority of viewers who phone vote, it seems so totally incomprehensible and idiotic. They are content to watch classy, sparkly dancing.
Originally Posted by ennui:
“Hundreds of thiusands? Where did you get your figures from? The only people I have heard speak of personally voting are the likes of Sian phillips publically boasting of the dozens of calls she has made for Hollins to win. Possibly from a publicly funded BBC telephone.
I know scores of people from several generations who watch SCD religiously. They never vote and have no interest in joining the minority of viewers who phone vote, it seems so totally incomprehensible and idiotic. They are content to watch classy, sparkly dancing.”
“Hundreds of thiusands? Where did you get your figures from? The only people I have heard speak of personally voting are the likes of Sian phillips publically boasting of the dozens of calls she has made for Hollins to win. Possibly from a publicly funded BBC telephone.
I know scores of people from several generations who watch SCD religiously. They never vote and have no interest in joining the minority of viewers who phone vote, it seems so totally incomprehensible and idiotic. They are content to watch classy, sparkly dancing.”
Right, so I'm incomprehensible and idiotic am I?
I vote for Chris and I don't work for the BBC *shock, horror*
Originally Posted by ennui:
“Hundreds of thiusands? Where did you get your figures from? The only people I have heard speak of personally voting are the likes of Sian phillips publically boasting of the dozens of calls she has made for Hollins to win. Possibly from a publicly funded BBC telephone.
I know scores of people from several generations who watch SCD religiously. They never vote and have no interest in joining the minority of viewers who phone vote, it seems so totally incomprehensible and idiotic. They are content to watch classy, sparkly dancing.”
“Hundreds of thiusands? Where did you get your figures from? The only people I have heard speak of personally voting are the likes of Sian phillips publically boasting of the dozens of calls she has made for Hollins to win. Possibly from a publicly funded BBC telephone.
I know scores of people from several generations who watch SCD religiously. They never vote and have no interest in joining the minority of viewers who phone vote, it seems so totally incomprehensible and idiotic. They are content to watch classy, sparkly dancing.”
What, she sneaks into BBC headquarters during the short space of time allowed to vote and votes for Chris
Funnily enough, I know a lot of people as well, and shockingly of different ages as well, and guess what, a straw poll reveals they're generally supporting Cola and vote for them
Wow, different people on DS know different people shocker
Originally Posted by Beximus:
“Right, so I'm incomprehensible and idiotic am I?
I vote for Chris and I don't work for the BBC *shock, horror*”
“Right, so I'm incomprehensible and idiotic am I?
I vote for Chris and I don't work for the BBC *shock, horror*
”
No you are not incomprehensible and idiotic at all, if you follow the show to be entertained by the sparkle of classy dancing. But if you are so serious about the competition element that you would spend a lot of time and money txting, well I just don't get that. Too much time and energy of the show are wasted on the drama of who is in or out. We loose too much good dancing (like Hingis, Lucker or Healy) that could have provided so much more entertainment than the nonsensical false drama that is set up.
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“What, she sneaks into BBC headquarters during the short space of time allowed to vote and votes for Chris
”
“What, she sneaks into BBC headquarters during the short space of time allowed to vote and votes for Chris
”
Ever heard of the mobile phone? Apparently they are all the rage these days.
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