On the question of the number of voters , in the days of a portion of the call fee going to CIN , the show regualrly had voters in the millions . It was announced at the end of the 2006 series final that 12 million people had voted . £1million was regalarly donated to CIN via voting.
No point watching - FIXED for BBC employee to win
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Originally Posted by arddunol:
“On the question of the number of voters , in the days of a portion of the call fee going to CIN , the show regualrly had voters in the millions . It was announced at the end of the 2006 series final that 12 million people had voted . £1million was regalarly donated to CIN via voting.”
“On the question of the number of voters , in the days of a portion of the call fee going to CIN , the show regualrly had voters in the millions . It was announced at the end of the 2006 series final that 12 million people had voted . £1million was regalarly donated to CIN via voting.”
wonder what they do with the money these day - pay Brucie's salary
Originally Posted by arddunol:
“On the question of the number of voters , in the days of a portion of the call fee going to CIN , the show regualrly had voters in the millions . It was announced at the end of the 2006 series final that 12 million people had voted . £1million was regalarly donated to CIN via voting.”
“On the question of the number of voters , in the days of a portion of the call fee going to CIN , the show regualrly had voters in the millions . It was announced at the end of the 2006 series final that 12 million people had voted . £1million was regalarly donated to CIN via voting.”
I would welcome a return to that or some other cause. I would never vote on any of Simon Cowell's shows because I heard that he got some of the money.
They don't "do" anything with the money from calls these days, the call charge just covers the costs of the voting system.
All this bad feeling regarding the competition would be easily resolved if we all knew exactly how many phone in votes a celeb received each week. In this computer age it would take less than a second to get the stats necessary and yet we are never,ever told how many phone in votes are received. I cannot see any justification for this. Even if during the competition they were reluctant to give this information, why can it not be provided after the Final???
It's not exactly fixed if they HAD to change it because a dance-off doesn't work with 3 people and it's only last minute because they were expecting 3 in the final but Jade pulled out so what a silly thread
A dance off can work with three people.
If there were a dance off, the final would probably be between Chris and Ricky.
Assuming that Ricky has NO chance to win on a public vote, it would be better from the BBC's point of view if they could get Ali into the final. She is more popular than Ricky, should make the final and may possibly pick up Ricky's votes.
This is the reason for the cancellation of the dance off.
If there were a dance off, the final would probably be between Chris and Ricky.
Assuming that Ricky has NO chance to win on a public vote, it would be better from the BBC's point of view if they could get Ali into the final. She is more popular than Ricky, should make the final and may possibly pick up Ricky's votes.
This is the reason for the cancellation of the dance off.
Originally Posted by x-cherry-x:
“It's not exactly fixed if they HAD to change it because a dance-off doesn't work with 3 people and it's only last minute because they were expecting 3 in the final but Jade pulled out so what a silly thread”
“It's not exactly fixed if they HAD to change it because a dance-off doesn't work with 3 people and it's only last minute because they were expecting 3 in the final but Jade pulled out so what a silly thread”
But Jade didn't pull out this week she pulled out in week 9 so they've had plenty of time to do something anything to make sure we get a 3 person final
Who knows that they didn't decide in week 9 they might of but the day it'sdecided and the day it's announced is 2 different things
Originally Posted by tawny:
“I didn't notice the BBC doing anything to help Gethin 2 years ago & he was a BBC employee then.”
“I didn't notice the BBC doing anything to help Gethin 2 years ago & he was a BBC employee then.”
Exactly, Ridiculous thread
Originally Posted by x-cherry-x:
“Who knows that they didn't decide in week 9 they might of but the day it'sdecided and the day it's announced is 2 different things”
“Who knows that they didn't decide in week 9 they might of but the day it'sdecided and the day it's announced is 2 different things”
If they decided in week nine and haven't announced it until now then that's indefensible. (Not that I think this is what's happened - BBC? Foresight? Ha!)
It's precisely the timing of this announcement that doesn't sit right with me. I agree with the decision in principle but waiting until nearly the last minute to spring it on the audience is a bad idea imo.
Originally Posted by x-cherry-x:
“Exactly, Ridiculous thread”
“Exactly, Ridiculous thread
”
Quite agree. I loved Gethin but there again he missed out to another BBC employee (Matt Di Agenelo). Naughty BBC for upsetting anti Chris voters. How very dare they
I think the BBC bowed to pressure from the GBP as most people recognised it was not going to be a fair contest with just three couples and would give all the power to the judges.
I for one am delighted but there again I am one of those awful Cola supporters who should hang their heads in shame that we prefer to be entertained than bored
Originally Posted by hansue:
“Quite agree. I loved Gethin but there again he missed out to another BBC employee (Matt Di Agenelo). Naughty BBC for upsetting anti Chris voters. How very dare they
I think the BBC bowed to pressure from the GBP as most people recognised it was not going to be a fair contest with just three couples and would give all the power to the judges.
I for one am delighted but there again I am one of those awful Cola supporters who should hang their heads in shame that we prefer to be entertained than bored”
“Quite agree. I loved Gethin but there again he missed out to another BBC employee (Matt Di Agenelo). Naughty BBC for upsetting anti Chris voters. How very dare they
I think the BBC bowed to pressure from the GBP as most people recognised it was not going to be a fair contest with just three couples and would give all the power to the judges.
I for one am delighted but there again I am one of those awful Cola supporters who should hang their heads in shame that we prefer to be entertained than bored
”
thing is some people actually find Chris & Ola boring not Ali or Ricky
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“If they decided in week nine and haven't announced it until now then that's indefensible. (Not that I think this is what's happened - BBC? Foresight? Ha!)
It's precisely the timing of this announcement that doesn't sit right with me. I agree with the decision in principle but waiting until nearly the last minute to spring it on the audience is a bad idea imo.”
“If they decided in week nine and haven't announced it until now then that's indefensible. (Not that I think this is what's happened - BBC? Foresight? Ha!)
It's precisely the timing of this announcement that doesn't sit right with me. I agree with the decision in principle but waiting until nearly the last minute to spring it on the audience is a bad idea imo.”
What difference does it make that it's been "sprung" on the audience? I don't get it.
Competitors is fair enough - they should be in the "know" but what odds is it that we weren't aware until 5 days before? Would it have changed the voting?
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“thing is some people actually find Chris & Ola boring not Ali or Ricky”
“thing is some people actually find Chris & Ola boring not Ali or Ricky”
Well thats whats so lovely about living in a free country. We can all have our opinions and shouldn't be villified for having them like some people are on here.
Do you not remember all the fuss last year when nobody went out coz they'd mucked up the system? That's why there's no dance off this year. Sensible thing to do.
Originally Posted by Fringo:
“What difference does it make that it's been "sprung" on the audience? I don't get it.
Competitors is fair enough - they should be in the "know" but what odds is it that we weren't aware until 5 days before? Would it have changed the voting?”
“What difference does it make that it's been "sprung" on the audience? I don't get it.
Competitors is fair enough - they should be in the "know" but what odds is it that we weren't aware until 5 days before? Would it have changed the voting?”
Just think any rule changes should be announced to anyone who has a vested interest in the show as soon as they occur and the audience can be said to have a vested interest.
As for why it matters, well, you'd be better off asking those who are completely up in arms about it. I'm not particularly but here goes:
The timing of the announcement leaves it open for people to think that the rule change has been made on a whim to suit (insert own idea) agenda. Certain posters think that it has been done at such short notice to appease the majority of voters rather than because it's actually the fair thing to do and I have to admit, it could look like that.
If the change had been planned in advance (which I don't think it was so this is hypothetical), I agree that it wouldn't have had much of a difference in practical terms but it would, at least, have meant that Ali and Ricky fans would have been prepared for the fact that semi final week was probably going to be a straight fight between them for the remaining final place rather than suddenly having to adjust to this with a few days to go.
I just think people with a vested interest in something like being kept in the know. I guess it's just "good form".
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Just think any rule changes should be announced to anyone who has a vested interest in the show as soon as they occur and the audience can be said to have a vested interest.
As for why it matters, well, you'd be better off asking those who are completely up in arms about it. I'm not particularly but here goes:
The timing of the announcement leaves it open for people to think that the rule change has been made on a whim to suit (insert own idea) agenda. Certain posters think that it has been done at such short notice to appease the majority of voters rather than because it's actually the fair thing to do and I have to admit, it could look like that.
If the change had been planned in advance (which I don't think it was so this is hypothetical), I agree that it wouldn't have had much of a difference in practical terms but it would, at least, have meant that Ali and Ricky fans would have been prepared for the fact that semi final week was probably going to be a straight fight between them for the remaining final place rather than suddenly having to adjust to this with a few days to go.
I just think people with a vested interest in something like being kept in the know. I guess it's just "good form".”
“Just think any rule changes should be announced to anyone who has a vested interest in the show as soon as they occur and the audience can be said to have a vested interest.
As for why it matters, well, you'd be better off asking those who are completely up in arms about it. I'm not particularly but here goes:
The timing of the announcement leaves it open for people to think that the rule change has been made on a whim to suit (insert own idea) agenda. Certain posters think that it has been done at such short notice to appease the majority of voters rather than because it's actually the fair thing to do and I have to admit, it could look like that.
If the change had been planned in advance (which I don't think it was so this is hypothetical), I agree that it wouldn't have had much of a difference in practical terms but it would, at least, have meant that Ali and Ricky fans would have been prepared for the fact that semi final week was probably going to be a straight fight between them for the remaining final place rather than suddenly having to adjust to this with a few days to go.
I just think people with a vested interest in something like being kept in the know. I guess it's just "good form".”
Thanks
Originally Posted by OldLady:
“No point watching - FIXED for BBC employee to win
I agree with half of this. For me, there is little point in watching now as it is almost certain that Chris will win. It is difficult to imagine a scenario in which he doesn't. With a dance off there was always the chance that he would go out at the semi-final and then the final would have been wide open and very entertaining. As it is, all the excitement has gone for those who are not keen Chris andOla fans.
However, I would doubt that the BBC are trying to fix anything. They are not that Machiavellian and why would they be bothered to try?”
“No point watching - FIXED for BBC employee to win
I agree with half of this. For me, there is little point in watching now as it is almost certain that Chris will win. It is difficult to imagine a scenario in which he doesn't. With a dance off there was always the chance that he would go out at the semi-final and then the final would have been wide open and very entertaining. As it is, all the excitement has gone for those who are not keen Chris andOla fans.
However, I would doubt that the BBC are trying to fix anything. They are not that Machiavellian and why would they be bothered to try?”
Have to agree with you there. There is hardly any point in watching the remaining two shows it just has no excitment left in at all now.
The BBC were between a rock and a hard place really.
It's 99% likely that the judges would give Team Cola the order of the boot next Saturday leaving themselves with a final between two couples who apparently haven't caught the admiration, love or respect of the public.
It would have been a complete damp squib for a big proportion of the audience and they'd have been innundated with emails, calls and campaigns from the very vocal Cola supporters complaining that the judges were biased, the scores were fixed (usual stuff we read on here every Saturday night) and as they were the 'People's Choice', they should have gone to the final.
So - the BBC have ducked that one, and handed the decision over to the public, and they're getting stick for that too.
I conclude from this that Chris and Ola are commanding a HUGE percentage of the votes and that the potential brouhaha following a semi final exit for them would be equally huge and a very scary prosepect for the BBC.
It's 99% likely that the judges would give Team Cola the order of the boot next Saturday leaving themselves with a final between two couples who apparently haven't caught the admiration, love or respect of the public.
It would have been a complete damp squib for a big proportion of the audience and they'd have been innundated with emails, calls and campaigns from the very vocal Cola supporters complaining that the judges were biased, the scores were fixed (usual stuff we read on here every Saturday night) and as they were the 'People's Choice', they should have gone to the final.
So - the BBC have ducked that one, and handed the decision over to the public, and they're getting stick for that too.
I conclude from this that Chris and Ola are commanding a HUGE percentage of the votes and that the potential brouhaha following a semi final exit for them would be equally huge and a very scary prosepect for the BBC.
Originally Posted by carol north:
“Have to agree with you there. There is hardly any point in watching the remaining two shows it just has no excitment left in at all now.”
“Have to agree with you there. There is hardly any point in watching the remaining two shows it just has no excitment left in at all now.”
Actually Carol, on second thoughts, it might be worth watching the final just to see Chris's showdance. That should be a hoot.
We should run a book on what it will be. I go for an even more 'comical' version of the Charleston!
Originally Posted by x-cherry-x:
“It's not exactly fixed if they HAD to change it because a dance-off doesn't work with 3 people and it's only last minute because they were expecting 3 in the final but Jade pulled out so what a silly thread”
“It's not exactly fixed if they HAD to change it because a dance-off doesn't work with 3 people and it's only last minute because they were expecting 3 in the final but Jade pulled out so what a silly thread”
The dance off works the same with 3 people as it does with any other number. The celeb who comes top of the public vote isn't guaranteed to be safe in any week of the competition - it all comes down to how the judges and public have voted: (1st score judges, 2nd public)
1/4 final - 4 couples:
A 4 + 2 = 6
B 3 + 3 = 6
C 2 +1 = 2
D 1 + 4 = 5
D and C in dance off despite D having most public votes
Previous round - 5 couples
A 5 + 2 = 7
B 4 + 3 = 7
C 3 + 4 = 7
D 2 + 1 = 3
E 1 + 5 = 6
D and E in dance off despite E having most public votes
And so it goes on.
For all we know the celeb who came top with the public may have been in the dance off every week of the whole series. Why should it be different now. What makes Chris so special that he gets an exemption from the rules
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