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Old 19-12-2009, 19:40
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I'm at pains whether I should part with my money on this well in my opinion frankly nonsensical song. But I do despise X-factor with a passion not existent in anyone else I believe. In fact if I saw Cowell in the street I would hit him with an Ornamental Cathedral or even an Ornamental Microphone for that case. Can I start my own revolution instead? How about we all go out and buy Red rain by Peter Gabriel and get that to number 1? Who is up for it?
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Old 19-12-2009, 19:41
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I'm at pains whether I should part with my money on this well in my opinion frankly nonsensical song. But I do despise X-factor with a passion not existent in anyone else. In fact if I saw Cowell in the street I would hit him with an Ornamental Cathedral or even an Ornamental Microphone for that case. Can I start my own revolution instead? How about we all go out and buy Red rain by Peter Gabriel and get that to number 1? Who is up for it?
I think you'd be better off spending at least 29p on Amazon instead.
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Old 19-12-2009, 19:44
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I'm at pains whether I should part with my money on this well in my opinion frankly nonsensical song. But I do despise X-factor with a passion not existent in anyone else. In fact if I saw Cowell in the street I would hit him with an Ornamental Cathedral or even an Ornamental Microphone for that case. Can I start my own revolution instead? How about we all go out and buy Red rain by Peter Gabriel and get that to number 1? Who is up for it?
would buy Gabriel in a heartbeat,maybe next year
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Old 19-12-2009, 19:51
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Do Amazon sales count? The info on the Official Chart Show website says the single has to have a minimum cost of 40p.
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Old 19-12-2009, 19:52
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Your having a laugh right?

Talented in what way?
singing.

obviously the stuff he's bee singing isn't to everyone's taste, but that doesn't change the fact that, as a singer, he's actually pretty talented.

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Old 19-12-2009, 19:56
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I agree completely. If he's such a "talented" person, he'd have started from scratch, sending demos out. Part of "talent" is many years of hard graft, starting at the bottom and getting yourself noticed.
by that argument, only those who have gotten noticed and achieved success can be talented.

i'd have thought there must be plenty of people out there who are talented, but haven't had the breaks.

as for getting noticed, he auditioned for TXF, got himself noticed over thousands of other people, and made it to the end of the competition.

Simon Cowell didn't just knock on his door at random, and hand him a record contract.

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Old 19-12-2009, 19:58
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singing.

obviously the stuff he's bee singing isn't to everyone's taste, but that doesn't change the fact that, as a singer, he's actually pretty talented.

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Well thats entirely subjective.

I don't find his immature, over warbling voice nice to listen to whatsoever so i would disagree he is talented at all in fact.
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Old 19-12-2009, 19:59
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:00
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Don't assume this campaign has any deeper meaning. For most people it's just a loud way of saying "We want the fun of a proper Christmas Number 1 battle back". There's nothing to stop Simon Cowell releasing the X-Factor single one week later. The singles are certain to sell big regardless of the week it's released. Will Young sold over a million copies of Evergreen in March. It doesn't need Christmas to sell.

And I'll be honest. It's the first time since 2003/2004 that I've been interested in the charts. I'd guess thats the same for many others.

And if X-Factor does get the Number 1 this year you can bet another campaign will get started next year, and the year after that.
i never said anything about any deep meaning.

i just pointed out the irony of a campaign in protest of people being told what to do (even though no-one actually has been told to buy TXF single), doing just that - telling (or at best encouraging) people to buy something.

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Old 19-12-2009, 20:00
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by that argument, only those who have gotten noticed and achieved success can be talented.

i'd have thought there must be plenty of people out there who are talented, but haven't had the breaks.

as for getting noticed, he auditioned for TXF, got himself noticed over thousands of other people, and made it to the end of the competition.

Simon Cowell didn't just knock on his door at random, and hand him a record contract.

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He was the best of a bad bunch tbh.

In fact cowell would have been as well knocking on doors judging by some of the winners.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:05
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Well thats entirely subjective.

I don't find his immature, over warbling voice nice to listen to whatsoever so i would disagree he is talented at all in fact.
actually no - the fact that he's a good singer really isn't subjective.

whether people happen to like it or not is what's subjective.

in the same way Tom Morello is clearly an extremely talented guitarist, regardless of whether or not people happen to like RATM.

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Old 19-12-2009, 20:06
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I don't mind parting with 29p or even £29 for that matter its just a principle, right it's on Peter Gabriel is going to head anarchy! Proper anarchy none of this teenage facebook nonsense! I mean the whole marching on houses of parliaments starting fights with the fuzz whilst totally spaced out of your head! 2010 is mine mwahahaha and so will the music charts so watch out Cowell!
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:06
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It's not about whats ''credible'' to me. I'd be happy to have Mr Blobby back at No1 if he got it fair and square. A single that has a 4 month ad campaign running upto it's release getting the xmas No1 EVERY F***ING YEAR isn't ''fair and square''.
perhaps - but RATM getting to number one on the back of this campaign, which is more about TXF not being number one, than it is about RATM being number one, with many people buying multiple copies, hardly seems particularly fair and square either.

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Old 19-12-2009, 20:08
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Ok I bought six version from Amazon. But there's a chance that its no.1 position won't count as it's below 40p.

When's the deadline? - I'll repeat for other stores during the week!
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:09
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The day I will regard Joe Knuckleberry as talent is the day he starts writing his own songs and starts to sing in tune.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:10
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by multiple downloads it means dont got potty and download the same track from the same place 20 times,look for a live version or buy the clean version
or, to put it another way, 'cheat'.

so if it is number one tomorrow, well done.

you got there by cheating the system.

you crazy rebels, you!

grrrrrrr!

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Old 19-12-2009, 20:12
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The day I will regard Joe Knuckleberry as talent is the day he starts writing his own songs and starts to sing in tune.
you see, this is the thing i don't get.

despite appearances, i don't really care which is number one. (I have a massive collection of music, of all sorts, and listen to what i want, when i want without having to worry about the charts),

but we watch the TXF as its a bit of nonsense on a Saturday night - and whatever else, Joe sang pretty much note perfect for 10 weeks.

so, whatever else, where does the idea that he can't hold a tune come from?

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Old 19-12-2009, 20:15
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I don't really care about either camp, although it is nice that there is a battle for christmas no 1 again, and not a X-Factor juggernaut.

On a side note Joe McElderry is definitely one of the weaker winners...he'll go down the Leon Jackson, Steve Brookstein, Michelle McManus route to obscurity.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:16
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I don't really care about either camp, although it is nice that there is a battle for christmas no 1 again, and not a X-Factor juggernaut.

On a side note Joe McElderry is definitely one of the weaker winners...he'll go down the Leon Jackson, Steve Brookstein, Michelle McManus route to obscurity.
Unless he gets that contract that Disney want him for.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:19
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you see, this is the thing i don't get.

despite appearances, i don't really care which is number one. (I have a massive collection of music, of all sorts, and listen to what i want, when i want without having to worry about the charts),

but we watch the TXF as its a bit of nonsense on a Saturday night - and whatever else, Joe sang pretty much noter perfect for 10 weeks.

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You watch the X-factor I don't! You know how annoying it is when every time you turn on the bleeding radio or TV, a talentless hack is being shoved down your face. I have nothing against Knuckleberry personally but if he was so note perfect and talented then why did he need to go on a game show? Was he a serious musician who had spent years toiling away in grimy little pubs and clubs? The X-factor presents us with this fairytale, yet the real fairytale is out there with musicians recording albums in the back of cars and sheds. Playing tough gigs in rotten places. I can't even watch the bleeding news without hearing about Jedword or whatever he was and radio well I've given up on that all together, it's my I pod on a constant loop everywhere I go now!
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:21
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actually no - the fact that he's a good singer really isn't subjective.

whether people happen to like it or not is what's subjective.

in the same way Tom Morello is clearly an extremely talented guitarist, regardless of whether or not people happen to like RATM.

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Do you just argue with people for the sake of it?

Looking at your past posts you never agree with anything anyone says apart from your own bizarre outlook on things.

Of course its subjective. I disagree with the fact that you think hes a good singer. I personally think his immature, warbling voice is painful to listen to.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:22
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Rage against the machine song is awful though
if it was a decent song i would. i agree with the whole idea of the campaign but they could not have chosen a worse song imo
why cant a decent christmas song be no.1?
also im not buying any of that bs about Joe in the sun
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:22
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Ok I bought six version from Amazon. But there's a chance that its no.1 position won't count as it's below 40p.

When's the deadline? - I'll repeat for other stores during the week!
That's against the rules. Maximum 3/2 per store or all of your purchases may not count. Also some stores link to other retailers (a bit like RBS and Natwest are actually one bank) so only 3 or 2 from them as well.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:23
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or, to put it another way, 'cheat'.

so if it is number one tomorrow, well done.

you got there by cheating the system.

you crazy rebels, you!

grrrrrrr!

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And how the hell do you think any xfactor number one gets there?

Look at recent JLS con. They brought out 1 album but put 4 different covers on them (one with each members face) so some nuts would buy all 4 of them launching it to number one which it did.
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Old 19-12-2009, 20:25
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You watch the X-factor I don't! You know how annoying it is when every time you turn on the bleeding radio or TV, a talentless hack is being shoved down your face. I have nothing against Knuckleberry personally but if he was so note perfect and talented then why did he need to go on a game show? Was he a serious musician who had spent years toiling away in grimy little pubs and clubs? The X-factor presents us with this fairytale, yet the real fairytale is out there with musicians recording albums in the back of cars and sheds. Playing tough gigs in rotten places. I can't even watch the bleeding news without hearing about Jedword or whatever he was and radio well I've given up on that all together, it's my I pod on a constant loop everywhere I go now!
Reality TV Singer Contests have been on TV since the 70s/80s. They made the huge stars of the late 90s, early 00s.
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