The RATM campaign is mean!!!

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SickPuppy21

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by thinkfun:
“tbh im not even that worried.....if the facebook people were smart they would have picked a song people are more lilely to buy aroung xmas whether they saw the campaign or not like i wish it could be xmas everyday....theyd more likely get to number 1.....also they amount of follwers this group have is the about the same as the people who have preordered the winners song....”

LOL Glorious!

I mean of course some many people will pre order something they havent even heard yet, ..right?

force of nature

12-12-2009

I would love it if Killing In The Name of gets number 1 the lyrics at the end are perfect

**JennaJ**

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by zx50:
“Of course the campaign will flop. We've got a massive group of average joe Internet users who've "decided" that they're not happy with the possibility of Rage Against The Machine's song possibly not making it to the number one spot ..... what a shame for them. Then, we've got Simon Cowell ... someone who's got very powerful connections in the music business. Hmmn, I wonder who'll come out on top? These "protesters" will just be seen as your every day people that are kicking up a fuss over something they don't like. If none of these protesters have "connections" of any kind, they're likely to just fail miserably and then go back to what they were doing previously.”

I wouldn't be so sure..........Simon will be loving every minute of this!..........Can you imagine the publicity of it?........Simon doesn't give a flying fig if the winner gets to No1 this Christmas............The winner will sell more or less the same amount previous winners have sold, plus the amount Rage will sell.

Simon won't care if he gets good or bad publicity, All publicity is good & if Rage beat the winner, people will be talking about it for years. Either way Simon wins.

SickPuppy21

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by **JennaJ**:
“I wouldn't be so sure..........Simon will be loving every minute of this!..........Can you imagine the publicity of it?........Simon doesn't give a flying fig if the winner gets to No1 this Christmas............The winner will sell more or less the same amount previous winners have sold, plus the amount Rage will sell.

Simon won't care if he gets good or bad publicity, All publicity is good & if Rage beat the winner, people will be talking about it for years. Either way Simon wins.”

Wish he thought of that in the press conference.

Before branding us stupid and cynical yet raising £11k for charity.

zx50

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“But you never know. ”

Never know what? There's nowhere near enough campaigners to get this campaign taken really seriously and Simon knows this. Once this campaign reached 8 million subscribers, THEN it would likely get taken seriously. 400,000+ though ..... it's still just classed as a Facebook group that's done well with subscribers. For any petition to be taken seriously instantly, it needs to have members in the millions.

Tumblin Dice

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by Tiffani:
“Its a spiteful campaign just aimed at bringing down Simon Cowell but it will end up hurting the winner instead. Even Leon Jackson got a xmas no.1 so it would be really unfair for this years winner not to get the same opportunity.”

Don't you think it's up to the public what music they buy and for what reasons?

SickPuppy21

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by zx50:
“Never know what? There's nowhere near enough campaigners to get this campaign taken really seriously and Simon knows this. Once this campaign reached 8 million subscribers, THEN it would likely get taken seriously. 400,000+ though ..... it's still just classed as a Facebook group that's done well with subscribers. For any petition to be taken seriously instantly, it needs to have members in the millions.”

Its actually heading towards 700,000 now.

and you're expecting 8 million people for X Factor, crikey not even SuBo got that

neelia

12-12-2009

What is spiteful about not wanting the Xmas no one to be a foregine conclusion?

Who wants to bring Simon Cowel down? It won't matter to him.

Not getting Christmas no one is no big hurt! Joe is my favourite and if he wins I hope he gets to no one but AFTER Christmas.

force of nature

12-12-2009

I know people who are going to buy it multiple times though.

IvanIV

12-12-2009

Xmas #1 isn't something that belongs to SC and somebody is trying to take it away from him. XF winner will have an unfair advantage - weeks of exposure on TV, that's something nobody else will have.

Fat Buddha

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by force of nature:
“I would love it if Killing In The Name of gets number 1 the lyrics at the end are perfect”

Just change the word "do" to "buy" and that would give a good message to Cowell and all those other eejits that make manufactured faceless pop.

F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me
F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me
F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me
F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me

zx50

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“Wish he thought of that in the press conference.

Before branding us stupid and cynical yet raising £11k for charity.”

No he didn't. Yet another user who's just speaking half truths. He said "I also think it's incredibly dismissive of the people who watch and enjoy the show when they treat our audience as if they're stupid. I don't like that." That isn't calling the campaigners stupid, but saying that they're treating the viewers/audience as if they're stupid.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...-campaign.html

**JennaJ**

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“Wish he thought of that in the press conference.

Before branding us stupid and cynical yet raising £11k for charity.”

That was just to wind you all up and spur more people on to buy it!

zx50

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by force of nature:
“I know people who are going to buy it multiple times though.”

I hardly think that the people you know are going to make much of a difference to the sales.

ForerroRocher

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by thinkfun:
“ya nobody likes to be told what music to buy therefore we should all buy the song facebook tells us to....”

????

I never said anyone should. Whether they let the Facebook Group influence their decision is their choice. Being told by some random to do it wouldn't be the deciding factor in whether I bought RATM or not. The fact it'd been a nice, refreshing change to hear something other topping the charts at Christmas than an XF winner WOULD.

I don't really care what music anybody else buys. That's their choice. I'd still love to see anybody else other than XF top the charts though. It's hardly the end of the world either way.

caz789

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by Fat Buddha:
“Just change the word "do" to "buy" and that would give a good message to Cowell and all those other eejits that make manufactured faceless pop.

F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me
F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me
F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me
F*ck you I won`t buy what you tell me

”

But you are, you are being told to buy RATM. Who are signed to Sony.

As far as rebellion goes this is an epic fail.

Slick Nick

12-12-2009

I genuinely can't grasp the furor that surrounds the Christmas no. 1... it's just another week where a shit song will have generated more revenue than a bunch of other shit songs.

The only music I ever hear on 25th December is whatever awful Westlife/Boyzone etc. 'best of' CD one of us has bought my Mum that gets played as background music to Christmas dinner.

SickPuppy21

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by zx50:
“No he didn't. Yet another user who's just speaking half truths. He said "I also think it's incredibly dismissive of the people who watch and enjoy the show when they treat our audience as if they're stupid. I don't like that." That isn't calling the campaigners stupid, but saying that they're treating the viewers/audience as if they're stupid.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...-campaign.html”

Actually I forgot that part glad you brought it up!

Not stupid, just easily manipulated one of many examples using peoples personal stories and what not, i.e Stacey and her son.

zx50

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“Its actually heading towards 700,000 now.

and you're expecting 8 million people for X Factor, crikey not even SuBo got that ”

You don't seem to be reading things properly/correctly. I said 8 million in reference to the amount of campaigners, NOT the viewers for the X-Factor. And Susan Boyle viewers never reached 8 million? Think again:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...ent-Final.html

force of nature

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by zx50:
“I hardly think that the people you know are going to make much of a difference to the sales.”

Well obviously not just the people I know but it's not like just people I know will be buying it more then once, there will be many many more I don't know who will buy it more then once.

Are people you know who will buy the x factor single be the only ones who buy that song?

Tumblin Dice

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by Slick Nick:
“I genuinely can't grasp the furor that surrounds the Christmas no. 1... it's just another week where a shit song will have generated more revenue than a bunch of other shit songs.

The only music I ever hear on 25th December is whatever awful Westlife/Boyzone etc. 'best of' CD one of us has bought my Mum that gets played as background music to Christmas dinner.”

Bah, humbug!

SickPuppy21

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by zx50:
“You don't seem to be reading things properly/correctly. I said 8 million in reference to the amount of campaigners, NOT the viewers for the X-Factor. And Susan Boyle viewers never reached 8 million? Think again:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...ent-Final.html”

No no, I never said that.

zx50

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“Actually I forgot that part glad you brought it up!

Not stupid, just easily manipulated one of many examples using peoples personal stories and what not, i.e Stacey and her son.”

You forgot that part? You were the one who brought the word stupid up. Do you actually know what you're typing? Ugh..

zx50

12-12-2009

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“No no, I never said that.”

Oh, really?

Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“Its actually heading towards 700,000 now.

and you're expecting 8 million people for X Factor, crikey not even SuBo got that ”

daddy66

12-12-2009

I don't get it? Christmas No.1 is a Christmas No.1 Prrrt!

Now what really concerns me are the masses which make it the No.1

... meh thinks that there are deeper issues in the industry to be wringing hands over, rather than this nonsense.

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