Originally Posted by zx50:
“Oh, really?”
“Oh, really?”
Your assuming everyone that watches the show will buy the single, literally every single one of them? Same could be said for Rage too, but in town today I got many cheers with the leaflets
The RATM campaign is mean!!!
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Your assuming everyone that watches the show will buy the single, literally every single one of them? Same could be said for Rage too, but in town today I got many cheers with the leaflets
Originally Posted by daddy66:
“I don't get it? Christmas No.1 is a Christmas No.1 Prrrt!
Now what really concerns me are the masses which make it the No.1
... meh thinks that there are deeper issues in the industry to be wringing hands over, rather than this nonsense.”
“I don't get it? Christmas No.1 is a Christmas No.1 Prrrt!
Now what really concerns me are the masses which make it the No.1
... meh thinks that there are deeper issues in the industry to be wringing hands over, rather than this nonsense.”
I agree. At the minute though, I'm getting fairly excited about who's going to be crowned winner of this show. The thing is, if anyone is a lot better than the winner of this show, they'll make the number one spot. Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers. Saying that though, this year's final is a bit of a joke really. Only two people with singing talent, and even then, one's a BIT robotic when they sing ..... sometimes.
Originally Posted by Arsene wenger:
“I like RATM but this campaign is horrible.
The winner should have the number 1 record. I get that it does suck that XF keep getting the christmas #1 but like Simon says it makes no difference to him but it reflects horribly on to the winner.
”
“I like RATM but this campaign is horrible.
The winner should have the number 1 record. I get that it does suck that XF keep getting the christmas #1 but like Simon says it makes no difference to him but it reflects horribly on to the winner.
”
I am sorry but that is nonsense! The whole time Cowell dominates and manipulates the viewing and listening public into buying his third rate dross, there will always be a strong "anti" campaign. The fact that Cowell sees this as "personal" will only add weight to that campaign. I am sure it will fail because hundreds of thousands of gullible people will buy or download Joe's winning dirge but if RATM worries them, then good job too!
Originally Posted by Tumblin Dice:
“The campaign is justified. Cowell has bought Xmas and that's really crap.
He should push the final of the show back a week and release the winners sont thye week after Xmas. It can still be number one but we get back the magic of the Xmas number one.”
“The campaign is justified. Cowell has bought Xmas and that's really crap.
He should push the final of the show back a week and release the winners sont thye week after Xmas. It can still be number one but we get back the magic of the Xmas number one.”
the magic of xmas number 1??? are you serious - bob the builder was magic???? you know that the because of itunes everyone will know who it is anyway right towards the beginning of the week so there will be no surprise - xmas no1 is meaningless its just another week, no surprise, nothing special just one more week.
Originally Posted by SickPuppy21:
“Your assuming everyone that watches the show will buy the single, literally every single one of them? Same could be said for Rage too, but in town today I got many cheers with the leaflets”
“Your assuming everyone that watches the show will buy the single, literally every single one of them? Same could be said for Rage too, but in town today I got many cheers with the leaflets
”
Anndd you STILL don't get what I'm saying. I was never talking about the X-Factor when I mentioned the 8 million; I was talking about the number of subscribers to this Facebook thing and how many it would take for people to start taking them seriously. Go back and read that specific post properly. Better still, here it is:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...2&postcount=30
Read it properly.
Cowell won't really care about Xmas No.1.
he'll be more bothered if X Factor final doesn't beat Britain's Got Talent final in the ratings.
he'll be more bothered if X Factor final doesn't beat Britain's Got Talent final in the ratings.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“I agree. At the minute though, I'm getting fairly excited about who's going to be crowned winner of this show. The thing is, if anyone is a lot better than the winner of this show, they'll make the number one spot. Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers. Saying that though, this year's final is a bit of a joke really. Only two people with singing talent, and even then, one's a BIT robotic when they sing ..... sometimes.”
“I agree. At the minute though, I'm getting fairly excited about who's going to be crowned winner of this show. The thing is, if anyone is a lot better than the winner of this show, they'll make the number one spot. Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers. Saying that though, this year's final is a bit of a joke really. Only two people with singing talent, and even then, one's a BIT robotic when they sing ..... sometimes.”
Me too!...but I also get excited at Christmas Fayre tombolas, with a ticket in my hand so I'm no proper measure
I personally would like to hear a Christmas song win the No.1...failing that then Vera Lynn's 'We will meet again' ,will do for me
Originally Posted by zx50:
“I agree. At the minute though, I'm getting fairly excited about who's going to be crowned winner of this show. The thing is, if anyone is a lot better than the winner of this show, they'll make the number one spot. Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers. Saying that though, this year's final is a bit of a joke really. Only two people with singing talent, and even then, one's a BIT robotic when they sing ..... sometimes.”
“I agree. At the minute though, I'm getting fairly excited about who's going to be crowned winner of this show. The thing is, if anyone is a lot better than the winner of this show, they'll make the number one spot. Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers. Saying that though, this year's final is a bit of a joke really. Only two people with singing talent, and even then, one's a BIT robotic when they sing ..... sometimes.”
You have to be kidding, what Leon was one of the best singers? I like Leon, but sorry there were better singers and songs out there than the dross he got to number one with.
I think you miss the point, most artists have given up even trying to have a number one at Christmas, not because they are not good enough, but due to the amount of people watching a talent show and being manipulated into rushing out and buying the dross single ~ this year some crap called The Climb by some unknown (til now) wannabe that may not even be around in 2 years time making records (Leon being one). Simon et al have found a formula by which to get so many people to buy into this rubbish no other act stands a chance, and the songs are all about the same thing, they are not even Christmas songs, maybe had they bothered to get a Christmassy song written people would be happier with it.
If you look back at some of the fantastic songs which have been number one, ie Bohemiem Rhapsody, Band Aid (great as it was for charity and twice at that) the Beatles, god there are loads that were super songs, and they stayed at the top many of them for weeks, Whitney was there for 10 weeks, Queen for 9 the first time and 5 the second time. There are Slade and Mud as well as Benny Hill, Scaffold and Rolf Harris, Michael Jackson and E17. All totally different songs (other than Queen twice and Band Aid Twice) this is not a full list but it shows that the number one spot has been held by many different people only the Beatles held the number one Christmas spot for three years in a row and back then they were the biggest band around.
It used to be great on Christmas day to find out what the number one single would be, now we all know what it will be which for me is just boring, and I have never bought one of the X factors singles and will not be buying one this year I will however be buying RATM and seriously hope it gets to number one.
GG
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers.”
“Maybe the reason why the X-Factor's been so successful over the years in always reaching number one is because they always have the best singers.”
I'm pleased you put the word maybe at the beginning. It suggests that you are just speculating.
The X Factor winner reaching number one has very little to do with singing.
I'll be buying RATM simply because the winner song choice is crap. It was worth buying Moment or Halleujah...but not this year's bobbins song. It's one thing having aa good series..but you gotta end it with a good song.
It's a protest about the song not the show or Simon.
It's a protest about the song not the show or Simon.
Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots:
“I'll be buying RATM simply because the winner song choice is crap. It was worth buying Moment or Halleujah...but not this year's bobbins song. It's one thing having aa good series..but you gotta end it with a good song.
It's a protest about the song not the show or Simon.”
“I'll be buying RATM simply because the winner song choice is crap. It was worth buying Moment or Halleujah...but not this year's bobbins song. It's one thing having aa good series..but you gotta end it with a good song.
It's a protest about the song not the show or Simon.”
I agree up to a point with you, it is about this crap song, but to be honest others have been crap, Leons was not exactly the best song out either.
I also feel while this show is churning out the Xmas number one year in and year out other good singers/bands etc will just not bother, the competition has been taken away as the show has so many viewers that no one has a hope in hell of surpassing the amount of sales produced from this pile of junk, it is about making money and that makes me even more angry.
Glad to hear another person saying they will be buying it, the more the merrier.
GG
Originally Posted by zx50:
“I personally think this campaign's nothing more than a riot fest for a lot of the people who are taking part in it. Yes, there'll be some genuine people who are trying to make a statement, but as usual though, the rest will just think it's a right laugh to be part of this well publicised campaign that seems to be getting more publicity by the day.”
“I personally think this campaign's nothing more than a riot fest for a lot of the people who are taking part in it. Yes, there'll be some genuine people who are trying to make a statement, but as usual though, the rest will just think it's a right laugh to be part of this well publicised campaign that seems to be getting more publicity by the day.”
ITA.
The record buying public determine the Xmas #1. Not Cowell.
Of course, the XF single hitting #1 every Xmas, is due to a huge proportion of the XF viewers. Part of the record buying public.
Originally Posted by linnylou:
“ITA.
The record buying public determine the Xmas #1. Not Cowell.”
“ITA.
The record buying public determine the Xmas #1. Not Cowell.”
Cowell creates the demand.
I've never listened to RATM's music, but I don't think it's such a bad idea. Lots of people are sick of the x factor winner being garunteed the xmas number one.
Originally Posted by Tumblin Dice:
“Cowell creates the demand.”
“Cowell creates the demand.”
People decide for themselves whether to buy a record. Surely?
I don't buy half the products advertised on the TV.
Ill be buying RATM soon, I dislike the winners song immensely and ill have a feeling that if it gets No1, it'll drop out come the following week just like every single other X-Factor first singles.
Originally Posted by caz789:
“But you are, you are being told to buy RATM. Who are signed to Sony.
As far as rebellion goes this is an epic fail.”
“But you are, you are being told to buy RATM. Who are signed to Sony.
As far as rebellion goes this is an epic fail.”
I`m not going to buy what I already have, and have had in my cd collection since `93. No-one told me to buy it then, I bought it because I thought it was (and still is) a great album.
People should just buy whatever they want to buy (if anything).
I don't see the logic in this campaign?
The main people who care about the charts, are people who are into pop anyway.
I don't see the logic in this campaign?
The main people who care about the charts, are people who are into pop anyway.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“I personally think this campaign's nothing more than a riot fest for a lot of the people who are taking part in it. Yes, there'll be some genuine people who are trying to make a statement, but as usual though, the rest will just think it's a right laugh to be part of this well publicised campaign that seems to be getting more publicity by the day.”
“I personally think this campaign's nothing more than a riot fest for a lot of the people who are taking part in it. Yes, there'll be some genuine people who are trying to make a statement, but as usual though, the rest will just think it's a right laugh to be part of this well publicised campaign that seems to be getting more publicity by the day.”
what? tell me more 
After the blatant bias against Stacey who imo really didn't deserve to be knocked out so unfairly, more votes is fine, I get that, but giving each act a fair chance and then seeing who got the most votes imo is a fairer way.
So now I think I'm going to be joining this RATM campaign, it sends a message to SC and hopefully will make the show a bit fairer for all next year.
So now I think I'm going to be joining this RATM campaign, it sends a message to SC and hopefully will make the show a bit fairer for all next year.
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“After the blatant bias against Stacey who imo really didn't deserve to be knocked out so unfairly, more votes is fine, I get that, but giving each act a fair chance and then seeing who got the most votes imo is a fairer way.
So now I think I'm going to be joining this RATM campaign, it sends a message to SC and hopefully will make the show a bit fairer for all next year.”
“After the blatant bias against Stacey who imo really didn't deserve to be knocked out so unfairly, more votes is fine, I get that, but giving each act a fair chance and then seeing who got the most votes imo is a fairer way.
So now I think I'm going to be joining this RATM campaign, it sends a message to SC and hopefully will make the show a bit fairer for all next year.”
Welcome aboard Stacey fans! Feel free to buy now its after Midnight, Play.com iTunes or HMV/7Digital
Originally Posted by Arsene wenger:
“I like RATM but this campaign is horrible.
The winner should have the number 1 record. I get that it does suck that XF keep getting the christmas #1 but like Simon says it makes no difference to him but it reflects horribly on to the winner.”
“I like RATM but this campaign is horrible.
The winner should have the number 1 record. I get that it does suck that XF keep getting the christmas #1 but like Simon says it makes no difference to him but it reflects horribly on to the winner.
”
Why should the winner get the numer 1
Is it some god given right?
Do you honestly think that anyone of the finalists would get a Xmas number one with The Climb if it wasnt for the backing and apperances of the Xfactor?
Any of the finalists would be very luck to get any chart position above 50
Its only because its the Xfactor and 12 weeks viewing that gets the winners single to no1 not the person singing it
So IMO RATM will be a bloody good buy for me this week and because money from it is going to Shelter it makes my tenner spend that so much better
Originally Posted by zx50:
“No he didn't. Yet another user who's just speaking half truths. He said "I also think it's incredibly dismissive of the people who watch and enjoy the show when they treat our audience as if they're stupid. I don't like that." That isn't calling the campaigners stupid, but saying that they're treating the viewers/audience as if they're stupid.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...-campaign.html”
“No he didn't. Yet another user who's just speaking half truths. He said "I also think it's incredibly dismissive of the people who watch and enjoy the show when they treat our audience as if they're stupid. I don't like that." That isn't calling the campaigners stupid, but saying that they're treating the viewers/audience as if they're stupid.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/...-campaign.html”
Interesting quote from Cowell who himself is IMO the main one that treats the audience as stupid eg. Standing ovations for all of his acts no matter how bad they are, encouraging Olly to dance, and the kareoke covers he puts out every Xmas i'm sure i could list many more examples. Hypocrite is a word that springs to mind.
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