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richieosborne89
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by AugustWestie:
“I was comparing him to Olly.

I would even rather listen to Olly on CD. Joe has a good voice but I couldn't listen to it. I much prefer Olly's style to Joe's. Didn't you think his performance of Superstition was good? Could you imagine Joe trying to sing it like that?”

As it happens, I thought Superstition was Olly's best performance to date. But I think your missing the point, By your own admission, Olly and Joe have very different styles so why on earth would Joe try to sing that song in the style of Olly? I do however think that Joe could do a great rendition of that song, but in his style NOT OLLY'S!

Each week the act and the their mentor chose songs that suit them. That's the whole point of the competition!
AugustWestie
13-12-2009
I'm not missing any point. By "like that" I meant as good as that in whatever style, rather than in Olly's style. I don't think Joe could sing that song and make it sound good. The song sounds like it should be sang like Olly sang it. If Joe tried to sing the song in his own style - whatever that may be - I think it would sound terrible.
genelover
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by AugustWestie:
“I'm not missing any point. By "like that" I meant as good as that in whatever style, rather than in Olly's style. I don't think Joe could sing that song and make it sound good. The song sounds like it should be sang like Olly sang it. If Joe tried to sing the song in his own style - whatever that may be - I think it would sound terrible.”

Agreed 100%! Thought Olly knocked the socks off the others tonight. Loved him!
fezxenakis
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by AugustWestie:
“I'm not missing any point. By "like that" I meant as good as that in whatever style, rather than in Olly's style. I don't think Joe could sing that song and make it sound good. The song sounds like it should be sang like Olly sang it. If Joe tried to sing the song in his own style - whatever that may be - I think it would sound terrible.”

Just have to register my disagreement, Olly murders that song. I hated it in the audition, he sang it slightly better tonight but it still sucked. I've heard loads of people sing it much better, sorry.
Pinkii
13-12-2009
glad to finally see some Olly love on this board, he was amazing tonight! he might not be a great singer like joe, but he CAN sing and he is ALOT more entertaining and has alot more personality then joe imo, he is like a one man westlife, jus sits on the steps and then gets up for the high notes part lol. OLLY to win!
genelover
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by fezxenakis:
“Just have to register my disagreement, Olly murders that song. I hated it in the audition, he sang it slightly better tonight but it still sucked. I've heard loads of people sing it much better, sorry.”

Name them?
jellycat
13-12-2009
Olly is a great showman and deserves to win I will vote for him many times
bad1609
13-12-2009
At the end of the day Joe [in my opinion] is more aimed at the theatre, and would make an amazing Joseph [no pun intended]. Great voice, but no personality or charisma.

Olly on the other hand has the name of the programme. He can sing, dance, he has attitude... he's an all rounder, aka The X Factor.

I know Olly wont win, but seeing the winner is going to be compared to the last two, he'll secretly be glad of managing to find a career on his own without feeling compared constantly. Joe will release one album, and then blend into the west end. Whereas Olly will continue making records... the next Robbie/Will.
genelover
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by bad1609:
“At the end of the day Joe [in my opinion] is more aimed at the theatre, and would make an amazing Joseph [no pun intended]. Great voice, but no personality or charisma.

Olly on the other hand has the name of the programme. He can sing, dance, he has attitude... he's an all rounder, aka The X Factor.

I know Olly wont win, but seeing the winner is going to be compared to the last two, he'll secretly be glad of managing to find a career on his own without feeling compared constantly. Joe will release one album, and then blend into the west end. Whereas Olly will continue making records... the next Robbie/Will. ”

Do you know what? I reckon he will win!!! Yippee!
fezxenakis
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“Name them?”

Why?

I'm not talking about famous people I'm talking people I've heard singing this down my local, yes, that's how much of an amateur Olly is. But if you want names just check out any well known cover versions (and Austin's) apart from the Jonas Brothers which also sucked.
genelover
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by fezxenakis:
“Why?

I'm not talking about famous people I'm talking people I've heard singing this down my local, yes, that's how much of an amateur Olly is. But if you want names just check out any well known cover versions (and Austin's) apart from the Jonas Brothers which also sucked.”

Why? Because unless theyve been on national TV competing tonight, what you've heard is not relevant. Olly's performance pleased a whole lot of people and Im willing to bet he got the most votes tonight. Xfactor is a tv show where people watch for entertainment and Olly entertained more than anyone else tonight. IMO, fact!
Katie841
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“Why? Because unless theyve been on national TV competing tonight, what you've heard is not relevant. Olly's performance pleased a whole lot of people and Im willing to bet he got the most votes tonight. Xfactor is a tv show where people watch for entertainment and Olly entertained more than anyone else tonight. IMO, fact!”

Well said!
genelover
13-12-2009
Thank you About time there was some olly love on this forum!!!
bad1609
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“Why? Because unless theyve been on national TV competing tonight, what you've heard is not relevant. Olly's performance pleased a whole lot of people and Im willing to bet he got the most votes tonight. Xfactor is a tv show where people watch for entertainment and Olly entertained more than anyone else tonight. IMO, fact!”

As much as I'd like to believe that, a lot of people are also easily misled and believe everything they see/read... the idea of Joe being bookies favourite, and being splashed around the papers as favourite... can change many gulliable opinions.

As I've said elsewhere, last week's opening VT didn't even have Olly in it! Bit of subliminal pursuasion there that people wont consciously notice, but it'll effect them.

And then as the icing on the cake, Simon recently said "let's see Stacey and Joe fight it out!"... err Simon, remember Olly... yanno, YOUR contestant?!
fezxenakis
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“Why? Because unless theyve been on national TV competing tonight, what you've heard is not relevant. Olly's performance pleased a whole lot of people and Im willing to bet he got the most votes tonight. Xfactor is a tv show where people watch for entertainment and Olly entertained more than anyone else tonight. IMO, fact!”

There's no point in trying to argue with me like this. I've said what I think, it's obviously the opposite of what you think.

There it is.
genelover
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by bad1609:
“As much as I'd like to believe that, a lot of people are also easily misled and believe everything they see/read... the idea of Joe being bookies favourite, and being splashed around the papers as favourite... can change many gulliable opinions.

As I've said elsewhere, last week's opening VT didn't even have Olly in it! Bit of subliminal pursuasion there that people wont consciously notice, but it'll effect them.

And then as the icing on the cake, Simon recently said "let's see Stacey and Joe fight it out!"... err Simon, remember Olly... yanno, YOUR contestant?!”

Yes, I agree, Olly has had a raw deall...always being one of the first to sing, dubious song choices, etc. I do think that being the underdog may well work in his favour. Simon had obviously pinned everything on Danyl and Olly was just a sideshow...so if he does win, it just makes the achievement even more memorable!
bad1609
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“Yes, I agree, Olly has had a raw deall...always being one of the first to sing, dubious song choices, etc. I do think that being the underdog may well work in his favour. Simon had obviously pinned everything on Danyl and Olly was just a sideshow...so if he does win, it just makes the achievement even more memorable!”

If that happens I'll be very pleased. Although even if it doesn't, I take comfort in the idea that Olly will be around longer as a musician anyway. Joe will leave music for the stage, ironically like Gareth, who he's very much like.

Olly is the Will of the final, who won, took on the states, and is still around right now. Not saying Olly will be THAT successful, but seeing they're compared, it's a promising comparison!
genelover
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by bad1609:
“If that happens I'll be very pleased. Although even if it doesn't, I take comfort in the idea that Olly will be around longer as a musician anyway. Joe will leave music for the stage, ironically like Gareth, who he's very much like.

Olly is the Will of the final, who won, took on the states, and is still around right now. Not saying Olly will be THAT successful, but seeing they're compared, it's a promising comparison!”

At last a sensible voice on the forum! And talking of Will/Gareth, remember Gareth was also odds-on favourite to win, and clearly Simon's favourite?!! Luckily the British public got it right and hopefully will do so again!
lil_boo
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“At last a sensible voice on the forum! And talking of Will/Gareth, remember Gareth was also odds-on favourite to win, and clearly Simon's favourite?!! Luckily the British public got it right and hopefully will do so again!”

and vote for olly to win????
bad1609
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by genelover:
“At last a sensible voice on the forum!”

Well... I do try!
Heavenly
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by bad1609:
“If that happens I'll be very pleased. Although even if it doesn't, I take comfort in the idea that Olly will be around longer as a musician anyway. Joe will leave music for the stage, ironically like Gareth, who he's very much like.

Olly is the Will of the final, who won, took on the states, and is still around right now. Not saying Olly will be THAT successful, but seeing they're compared, it's a promising comparison!”

Hear hear.
_rebca
13-12-2009
FINALLY, a bit of Olly love on the forum!
Thought last night was his best by far, and I truly believe it could go either way tonight, but, like Louis said yesterday, Olly DOES have the X Factor in my eyes, as he can sing, dance, and has the personality as well.
Satnavvy
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by AugustWestie:
“The guy gets a lot of stick around here (karaoke singer?) but I thought he was actually incredible tonight. His performance of Superstition was probably the best performance I've seen in the whole series.

Where's all the Olly love?

Sure, Joe may technically have a better singing ability, but he is dull as hell. Olly has personality, and he actually can sing no matter what you think; it's just a different style to Joe's. I know which one I'd prefer, and I also know which of the two would actually have a career in music (it ain't Joe).

I think tomorrow I'll be picking the phone up for the first time this series (or any series for that matter).”

I am looking forward to his trial at the Old Bailey for committing murder on a classic song.
bad1609
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by _rebca:
“FINALLY, a bit of Olly love on the forum!
Thought last night was his best by far, and I truly believe it could go either way tonight, but, like Louis said yesterday, Olly DOES have the X Factor in my eyes, as he can sing, dance, and has the personality as well.”

And Olly is the only one who they still use the phrase "X Factor" for. The others get comments about singing, but never about being an all rounder.
Cat Power
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by bad1609:
“And Olly is the only one who they still use the phrase "X Factor" for. The others get comments about singing, but never about being an all rounder.”

Since when did being an average singer, average dancer and average performer give someone the Xfactor.

Jack of all trades, Master of none, I would suggest...
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