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Simon blames Dannii on Stacey's departure
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LisaMc
13-12-2009
http://bit.ly/8hhQNc

Do you know what? I loved Dannii this year but I think Simon might have a point with this. Stacey never should have went tonight!
Lucylock
13-12-2009
No, Simon ruined her chances by being a manipulative man, going on about how he wanted a male to win
superstar111
13-12-2009
Dannii is a lovely person and an amazing judge but she's not a very good mentor. She works hard, but the end results leave alot to be desired, and you only have to look at her roster this year to notice.
jujubee
13-12-2009
STFU, Simon. Sense when have you had a problem with copycats?

Has Dermot packed his pod and pitchfork for the US?
friendlyguy2
13-12-2009
I didn't see how Who wants to live forever was ruined by Stacey's gown in either Queen week or tonight. If Simon wants to blame anyone for Stacey being voted off tonight it was down as much to the decision to give her a jazz artist like Buble who many viewers (particularly younger) won't know that well against Robbie Williams and George Michael for the other two acts, who of course are huge popstars in this country. In addition to that it's Mr Cowell who is obsessed with Leona Lewis not Danni Minogue.
beanbean
13-12-2009
I think its the curse of that song "feeling good".
Danyl was in the bottom 2 when he sung that, and i think Adam Lambert was too.
MARTYM8
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“Dannii is a lovely person and an amazing judge but she's not a very good mentor. She works hard, but the end results leave alot to be desired, and you only have to look at her roster this year to notice.”

Sorry - but she lost Lucie (her strongest singer) through Simon going to deadlock. She voted off Jedward even though she could have picked Olly and he would have gone out.

Maybe Dannii secretly wishes now she had picked Jedward in the sing off the Olly would have gone home 3 weeks ago!
superstar111
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Sorry - but she lost Lucie (her strongest singer) through Simon going to deadlock. She voted off Jedward even though she could have picked Olly and he would have gone out.

Maybe Dannii secretly wishes now she had picked Jedward in the sing off the Olly would have gone home 3 weeks ago!”

But why did Lucie get put in the sing off in the first place? It took Dannii too long to find her comfort zone really, and she just didn't know what to do with her IMO, the same with Rachel.

I'm not slating her as I do really like her as a judge and as a mentor, but I don't think she's done very well at all this year.
Lucylock
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“But why did Lucie get put in the sing off in the first place? It took Dannii too long to find her comfort zone really, and she just didn't know what to do with her IMO, the same with Rachel.

I'm not slating her as I do really like her as a judge and as a mentor, but I don't think she's done very well at all this year.”

I do not think any of them have done well this year to be honest. Simon's acts have been in the bottom two, Cheryl has one decent act, but the others she didn't give them their best songs. I do not know why Dannii is being singled out for being a poor mentor, when Cheryl and Simon have not been any better
gqq
13-12-2009
The man chats codswallop. His reputation this series has dramatically plummeted from being someone whose opinions were right on the money 95% of the time to just coming out with distorted, irrelevant, over biased comments. His demeanour towards Dannii this series has been atrocious, always sticking like glue to Cheryl and never giving her eye contact.
superstar111
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“I do not think any of them have done well this year to be honest. Simon's acts have been in the bottom two, Cheryl has one decent act, but the others she didn't give them their best songs. I do not know why Dannii is being singled out for being a poor mentor, when Cheryl and Simon have not been any better”

I'm not singling her out, the topic is about her in question though. I think Simon's done a good job with his acts to be fair, yeah they were in the bottom, but he's given them good song choices and stuff, as much as I hate to admit it.

Cheryl's been awful too. Lloyd and Rikki were poetntial finalists but were totally ruined by her (in Lloyds case, he was a victim of the themed weeks imo), and Joe has been as old fashioned as Louis when it comes to his song choices. He only pulls them off because he's such a talented guy.

Louis to be fair was really good with John and Edward! He done everything he could with them, but he again totally missed an opportunity with the girl groups.

So yeah, it's not just Dannii who has been bad, but IMO she's been the worst (with Cheryl) and the topic was about her.
Release Me
13-12-2009
I've been saying this for weeks that Danni is the reason why Stacey has been so poor, it shows she's a awful judge and doesn't know what she's doing. I think I said at the time that Danni getting the girls was a huge mistake and this just proves it.
Darcyprincess
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“I do not think any of them have done well this year to be honest. Simon's acts have been in the bottom two, Cheryl has one decent act, but the others she didn't give them their best songs. I do not know why Dannii is being singled out for being a poor mentor, when Cheryl and Simon have not been any better”

I think that both Dannii and Simon have had a bad year this year! Both these two had the strongest groups but did not give their contestants great songs! Simon constantly gave Danyl all the best songs and both Olly and Jamies were left with what was left over! I think that Simon has been one of the worst judges this year and that Cheryl has been the best judge!
Lucylock
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I think that both Dannii and Simon have had a bad year this year! Both these two had the strongest groups but did not give their contestants great songs! Simon constantly gave Danyl all the best songs and both Olly and Jamies were left with what was left over! I think that Simon has been one of the worst judges this year and that Cheryl has been the best judge!”

Cheryl gave Lloyd and Rikki awful songs
MARTYM8
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I I think that Simon has been one of the worst judges this year and that Cheryl has been the best judge!”

What exactly does Cheryl do - Joe will win because of his own talent not hers.
rivercity_rules
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“I do not think any of them have done well this year to be honest. Simon's acts have been in the bottom two, Cheryl has one decent act, but the others she didn't give them their best songs. I do not know why Dannii is being singled out for being a poor mentor, when Cheryl and Simon have not been any better”

Look how far Louis took Jedward, Simon has managed to get Olly to the final, god only knows how, and Cheryl has a finalist out of the weakest (By Far) category.

Dannii had 3 potential finalists, ruined Rachel in week one (Why dress her as Rihanna then make her sing Robbie? Idiotic choice) scuppered Lucie's chances with a song noone knows and then tried to turn Stacey into Leona which just wasn't possible. If she had spent more time picking good songs for them instead of trying to be their best mate, she would have lost one act tonight and still had two competing tomorrow. Last year was the same, Rachel never stood a chance with the song choices and she chose Daniel fgs! Then we have her to blame for Leon too.

As has been said, good judge, she knows how to give good constructive criticisms, but ask her to pick a song and you'd do just as well throwing a dart at a big list of choices.
hitnmix
13-12-2009
PMSL

He got no room to talk, he done naff all for his acts apart from give someone cash to do his work.


http://bit.ly/4KWeZA
Lucylock
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“Look how far Louis took Jedward, Simon has managed to get Olly to the final, god only knows how, and Cheryl has a finalist out of the weakest (By Far) category.

Dannii had 3 potential finalists, ruined Rachel in week one (Why dress her as Rihanna then make her sing Robbie? Idiotic choice) scuppered Lucie's chances with a song noone knows and then tried to turn Stacey into Leona which just wasn't possible. If she had spent more time picking good songs for them instead of trying to be their best mate, she would have lost one act tonight and still had two competing tomorrow. Last year was the same, Rachel never stood a chance with the song choices and she chose Daniel fgs! Then we have her to blame for Leon too.

As has been said, good judge, she knows how to give good constructive criticisms, but ask her to pick a song and you'd do just as well throwing a dart at a big list of choices.”

Cheryl has Joe in the final 2 because he is one of the stronger singers. Stacey was a strong singer too. It is easier for boys to get the votes than the girls. also it is easier for Cheryl Cole to get the votes, because she is popular with the public in the UK and everyone knows her, whereas people do not really know Dannii much

I guess you are still upset with Dannii over her decision to send the twins home
hitnmix
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by rivercity_rules:
“Look how far Louis took Jedward, Simon has managed to get Olly to the final, god only knows how, and Cheryl has a finalist out of the weakest (By Far) category.

Dannii had 3 potential finalists, ruined Rachel in week one (Why dress her as Rihanna then make her sing Robbie? Idiotic choice) scuppered Lucie's chances with a song noone knows and then tried to turn Stacey into Leona which just wasn't possible. If she had spent more time picking good songs for them instead of trying to be their best mate, she would have lost one act tonight and still had two competing tomorrow. Last year was the same, Rachel never stood a chance with the song choices and she chose Daniel fgs! Then we have her to blame for Leon too.

As has been said, good judge, she knows how to give good constructive criticisms, but ask her to pick a song and you'd do just as well throwing a dart at a big list of choices.”


Simon didnt get Olly to the final he paid someone to do it for him.
r0ry101
13-12-2009
Danni is a GREAT judge, sorry but she managed to get all three of the Over25s to the top 7 last year when everyone thought they would be gone far sooner, she also got Stacey to a great position consdering she was clearly doomed from the start of the finale it was obvious Simon wanted her third so did everything to get that result.
rivercity_rules
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“Cheryl has Joe in the final 2 because he is one of the stronger singers. Stacey was a strong singer too. It is easier for boys to get the votes than the girls

I guess you are still upset with Dannii over her decision to send the twins home”

I'm more upset with her for the mess she made with Rachel to be honest. I see her judging and mentoring as two separate things, her judging got a little personal for my liking against Jedward, but with everyone else she's been consistent and overall gives the best comments out of all the judges.

But when mentoring I just can't understand what part of her brain thought, "Right, She's singing Let Me Entertain You, what look should we go for? Hmm, Rihanna, that goes well" Joe is in the final because he is a strong singer who was given songs that suited him, Stacey isn't because Dannii wanted to create another Leona but as good as Stacey was she couldn't be as good as Leona. I said weeks ago that I felt Stacey was more of a Kelly Rowland to Leona's Beyonce. Nothing wrong with that in the slightest, but Dannii just never chose songs that really suited her. Tonight she showed with her audition track how brilliant her voice was with the right song, shame it was the first performance of the night or it may have been enough to save her.

She just seems to be much more interested in being their friend and the song choices and what is right for them on stage comes second.
superstar111
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by r0ry101:
“Danni is a GREAT judge, sorry but she managed to get all three of the Over25s to the top 7 last year when everyone thought they would be gone far sooner, she also got Stacey to a great position consdering she was clearly doomed from the start of the finale it was obvious Simon wanted her third so did everything to get that result.”

Why did everyone think they would have gone sooner? Because Dannii wasn't any good with them. Ruth was in the bottom two week two and five, Rachel was in the bottom two week four, six and seven and Daniel was in the bottom two week three and six. This means that Dannii had ana ct in the bottom every week bar the first one, which isn't an achievement.
smashbox
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Lucylock:
“Cheryl has Joe in the final 2 because he is one of the stronger singers. Stacey was a strong singer too. It is easier for boys to get the votes than the girls. also it is easier for Cheryl Cole to get the votes, because she is popular with the public in the UK and everyone knows her, whereas people do not really know Dannii much

I guess you are still upset with Dannii over her decision to send the twins home”

If that's the case then how did Leona and Alexandria win? No. I think people are making excuses for Dannii as per usual. She is a nice person but she is not a great mentor. She had the strongest category this year and should have done so much better. I don't understand why so many excuses are made for her on here whilst the other judges are ripped to pieces.
r0ry101
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by superstar111:
“Why did everyone think they would have gone sooner? Because Dannii wasn't any good with them. Ruth was in the bottom two week two and five, Rachel was in the bottom two week four, six and seven and Daniel was in the bottom two week three and six. This means that Dannii had ana ct in the bottom every week bar the first one, which isn't an achievement.”

Because consdering how none of them were ever consderng to be potential winners from the beginning - it was all about the girls, JLS, and Austin and Eoghan and they didn't go till the Top 7! She managed to turn Ruth from being fodder to an actual contender! She was great with her
Also she did get Leon and Rhydian to the top 2 if you remember - so obviously she did something right that year!
Lucylock
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by r0ry101:
“Because consdering how none of them were ever consderng to be potential winners from the beginning - it was all about the girls, JLS, and Austin and Eoghan and they didn't go till the Top 7! She managed to turn Ruth from being fodder to an actual contender! She was great with her
Also she did get Leon and Rhydian to the top 2 if you remember - so obviously she did something right that year! ”

I think Dannii is a great mentor and judge. If I was a contestant, my first choice would be Dannii
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