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Should BBC presenters be allowed on SCD?
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clayton_st
13-12-2009
Surely if a regular BBC presenter is entered in SCD he/she have an advantage in as much that they are presnted to the public as Mr/Mrs nice guy every time they are on.
Also (In Chris's case) the other morning presenters were always backing him and urging support for him.
Since SCD has now become a popularity contest and not a dance skill contest any presenter entering should not be allowed screen time ( as politicians are not allowed to have jobs in the media during election time).
If it was judged on ability it wouldn't matter but since the GBP vote on whether or not they like a contestant I think a screen ban during contest would be appropriate.
philadelphia
13-12-2009
I agree with you 100%
ilovesooty
13-12-2009
Perhaps no one who's ever on TV at all should be allowed to compete.

I imagine that many of Chris' supporters don't watch his show and hadn't heard on him before SCD.
MrMac000
13-12-2009
To me, the proposed solution seems a little excessive for a light entertainment programme.

And there's plenty of examples of BBC presenters performing badly in the past.
lach doch mal
13-12-2009
I think we shouldn't allow TV presenters, because they will be portrayed as Mr/Mrs Nice guys.

We shouldn't allow actors, because they have an unfair advantage for being able to portray emotion (and have done some previous dance training).

We shouldn't allow sports people (very unfair as they are very competitive and fitter than the other contestants).

We also shouldn't allow any singers as they clearly have an unfair advantage because they have rhytm and maybe even some dance training.

This leaves us with..... no-one to compete.

Some people on here have rather funny notions of what this programme is all about.
sequinned thong
13-12-2009
[quote=clayton_st;37252883]
Since SCD has now become a popularity contest and not a dance skill contest any presenter entering should not be allowed screen time ( as politicians are not allowed to have jobs in the media during election time).
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Don't you think that you're taking things a bit too seriously?
vidalia
13-12-2009
What about the GMTV presenters who win every year?
Agent Krycek
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“I think we shouldn't allow TV presenters, because they will be portrayed as Mr/Mrs Nice guys.

We shouldn't allow actors, because they have an unfair advantage for being able to portray emotion (and have done some previous dance training).

We shouldn't allow sports people (very unfair as they are very competitive and fitter than the other contestants).

We also shouldn't allow any singers as they clearly have an unfair advantage because they have rhytm and maybe even some dance training.

Some people on here have rather funny notions of what this programme is all about.”

Thanks, save me some typing

We also shouldn't allow models as they have natural good posture

So, next year on SCD, we'll have some authors, screenwriters and directors - Marian Keyes I'll look forward to, along with Julian Fellowes, not sure Mr Spielberg is going to be much cop
Force Ten
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by vidalia:
“What about the GMTV presenters who win every year?”

I was just going to mention them, although I would have said enter rather than win lol.
Force Ten
13-12-2009
You can't have authors or screenwriters as they might have researched dancing for a book or screenplay. And directors might have directed a film about dancing.
napoleonsolo
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by vidalia:
“What about the GMTV presenters who win every year?”

precisely, and i think that GMTV is probably more popular with the voting public that BBC breakfast!
Camino
13-12-2009
didnt help Billy Boy get very far!
lach doch mal
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
“You can't have authors or screenwriters as they might have researched dancing for a book or screenplay. And directors might have directed a film about dancing.”

... and don't forget authors' books are actually read by many people which gives them such an unfair advantage. Depending on the book they might be perceived to be nice people.

Maybe we should only allow people that work in tv but behind the scenes (e.g. the makeup artists in Strictly).
mossy2103
13-12-2009
Another thread starter who is sore about their favourite not being popular in the public vote and subsequent result.
claire2281
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by clayton_st:
“...any presenter entering should not be allowed screen time ( as politicians are not allowed to have jobs in the media during election time).”

Last year we had the word smug...

This year we have the overly dramatic analogies...
Force Ten
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“... and don't forget authors' books are actually read by many people which gives them such an unfair advantage. Depending on the book they might be perceived to be nice people.

Maybe we should only allow people that work in tv but behind the scenes (e.g. the makeup artists in Strictly).”

No you can't have them they get featured on ITT lol.

Maybe they should just have members of the public rather than celebs at all....
Winsome
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by ilovesooty:
“Perhaps no one who's ever on TV at all should be allowed to compete.

I imagine that many of Chris' supporters don't watch his show and hadn't heard on him before SCD.”

You could well be right, I hadn't heard of him before SCD as I don't watch BBC Breakfast. And yes, I am a supporter, not because of his 'cheeky chappie' image, but because, overall, he has made the most improvement, IMHO, also, I must admit that the chemistry between Chris and Ola helps to 'sell' the dance.
MARTYM8
13-12-2009
Why - should we ban BBC soapstars (all the Eastenders, Casualty, Holby crowd gone), sportstars who appear on the Beeb, weathermen.

Its ridiculous - you would have no on one the show. Its not as if the judges have been more generous to Chris because he is a BBC presenter.
oulandy
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Why - should we ban BBC soapstars (all the Eastenders, Casualty, Holby crowd gone), sportstars who appear on the Beeb, weathermen.

Its ridiculous - you would have no on one the show. Its not as if the judges have been more generous to Chris because he is a BBC presenter.”

That's right - we should have no one on the show at all. People spoil it and on top of that, they already know how to breathe and stay upright which gives them a most unfair advantage.
thenetworkbabe
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by clayton_st:
“Surely if a regular BBC presenter is entered in SCD he/she have an advantage in as much that they are presnted to the public as Mr/Mrs nice guy every time they are on.
Also (In Chris's case) the other morning presenters were always backing him and urging support for him.
Since SCD has now become a popularity contest and not a dance skill contest any presenter entering should not be allowed screen time ( as politicians are not allowed to have jobs in the media during election time).
If it was judged on ability it wouldn't matter but since the GBP vote on whether or not they like a contestant I think a screen ban during contest would be appropriate.”

True constant repetition of the story helps but with fanbase soaps have bigger audiences and their fan bases don't carry through. Nat was better than Chris and he survives.

If there is anything its that the audiences from daytime TV and certain BBC shows do carry over and vote more - but even then Phil from Question of Sport should have done better.

The bigger problem is that they allow the irrelevant stories to gain momentum (Blackpool, cute Chris) and then give the ones who are attracting a vote even bigger stories to explain why they are doing well. If you show people one pair having fun all the time as they struggle and tell them they are having fun and struggling, or go on about them wanting to go to Blackpool, its not surprising if some people vote accordingly.If they are doing well at training all day your only story is if they have words every now and again. Its split objectives and even in Fame Academy, where they showed the development of the songs in detail, they couldn't resist the temptation to cover the romances or allow someone airtime as a mimic.
Doghouse Riley
13-12-2009
Hmm...

Banning presenters, would have the effect of reducing by 90% the option to choose someone who's appeared on TV.
Annsyre
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by clayton_st:
“Surely if a regular BBC presenter is entered in SCD he/she have an advantage in as much that they are presnted to the public as Mr/Mrs nice guy every time they are on.
Also (In Chris's case) the other morning presenters were always backing him and urging support for him.
Since SCD has now become a popularity contest and not a dance skill contest any presenter entering should not be allowed screen time ( as politicians are not allowed to have jobs in the media during election time).
If it was judged on ability it wouldn't matter but since the GBP vote on whether or not they like a contestant I think a screen ban during contest would be appropriate.”

Absolutely, and, of course, anyone who has been on a soap or has been an actor in tv or films and anyone who has been a journalist or news commentator or cricketers and footballers and other sports people and anyone with a left and right foot. That would make it fair.
Agent Krycek
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“That's right - we should have no one on the show at all. People spoil it and on top of that, they already know how to breathe and stay upright which gives them a most unfair advantage.”

Zombies it is then, although there'll be a slight risk of limbs flying off during particularly energentic routines, slight risk they may be zombies of the brain eating kind, which would be unfortunate for the audience, although Tess will be fine as she appears to have no brain to eat and obviously a slight risk some mad man might take control of them and use them to obtain world dominiation, at least there'll be no talk of unfair advantages and the best dancer, or at least the one with the most limbs left, will win.
Bhoy1888
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by clayton_st:
“Surely if a regular BBC presenter is entered in SCD he/she have an advantage in as much that they are presnted to the public as Mr/Mrs nice guy every time they are on.
Also (In Chris's case) the other morning presenters were always backing him and urging support for him.
Since SCD has now become a popularity contest and not a dance skill contest any presenter entering should not be allowed screen time ( as politicians are not allowed to have jobs in the media during election time).
If it was judged on ability it wouldn't matter but since the GBP vote on whether or not they like a contestant I think a screen ban during contest would be appropriate.”

Only the ones Bhoy and Mrs Bhoy have a bet on
lach doch mal
13-12-2009
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Zombies it is then, although there'll be a slight risk of limbs flying off during particularly energentic routines, slight risk they may be zombies of the brain eating kind, which would be unfortunate for the audience, although Tess will be fine as she appears to have no brain to eat and obviously a slight risk some mad man might take control of them and use them to obtain world dominiation, at least there'll be no talk of unfair advantages and the best dancer, or at least the one with the most limbs left, will win.”

I'm sorry you cannot get away that easily. Obviously, the braineating zombies are slightly disadvantaged compared to the limb throwing kind (imagine the lifts and acrobatic movements they could all do). Also, because they are zombies, they won't display any emotions. Looking at the forums today, this gives them the unfair advantage that they won't display inappropriate emotions.
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