Yeah, I suppose your right - unfortunately. I think the soaps'd work better being cut down in the schedule, but...


Agreed - the only pre watershed programming they'll look at now is cheap documentaries and quiz shows.


I'd say just swap it round with Dancing On Ice.


I'd be tempted to try it out again personally, if possible. Maybe as a Monday Night 'Thriller' than a Saturday night programme if possible.


I wonder whether a show like that could be used to promote up and coming bands, who'd forgo large fees for exposure.


Joe Pasquale replaced him on The Price is Right - could he do both shows?

What about Mondays at 10pm after FlashForward? Could be a very popular combo.

Considering the weakness of Five in the 9pm slot, I don't think they should start shoving hit shows at 10pm (unless they're repeats). They should keep contesting the 9pm hour.

Yeah but to be fair 9pm weekdays look to be pretty much tied up at the moment with FlashForward on Mon, CSI on Tue, NCIS on Wed and Robson on Thu. Nothing weak about that lot.

The whole of Monday could be very strong with The Gadget Show, FlashForward and The Mentalist. Wouldn't it be lovely if Five could produce audiences of 2m+ for 3 programmes in a row? Possible with that lineup.

The Gadget Show is creeping up all the time and the announcement of the iPad should increase interest when it returns next week.

The Gadget Show did come out of nowhere to become Five's flagship show, it started as a companion show to Fifth Gear but it was Fifth Gear that got the axe. It's not perfect but it was a fun watch and I am so tempted to enter the competition one of these days.

I don't they'll talk about the iPad until episode 2 or 3 as they record the studio bits a few weeks before the show airs.

Any news on BARB again, when I asked at the weekend, it was rumoured to be sorted out, and listed on Monday, but we still have w/e 27/12/09?

Ratings for Wed 27.1.2010 delayed.

What do people think of Marco's Burnout Kitchen?
I see Kevlin Mackenzie is the latest "celeb" to sign up to the show.
I expect it will go out on ITV1 on Fridays after PopStar to OperaStar.
Does anyone how many parts the series will be?

Not Kelvin Mackenzie! I switch Sky News off as soon as he comes on to do the papers. Loathsome man, not least for the hateful and blatently untrue accusations he made against Liverpool fans as editor of The Sun in the wake of the Hillsborough tragedy, claims he still refuses to apologise for today.

I think it's Monday that they are updating the Barb website...well that's what people are saying on this forum..

Perhaps they double checking the data making sure is a 100% accurate before they publish the "gold standard data"

Will be interesting to see how BB did last night, I expect the first show will have done well, not so sure about the second.

The second show finished at 11.22, when it was suppose to finish at 11.30, so i have a feeling it will look like it did very bad, when it actually did not.

An extra rating from Tuesday to bridge the gap.

EastEnders' Greatest Cliffhangers delivered 870,000 (3.6%) across the 8pm hour to BBC Three, well above the slot average of 310,000 (1.4%). A post-midnight repeat hooked an additional 266,000 viewers (3.4%).

So ITV have appointed Adam Crozier as Chief Executive:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8485170.stm

Well, he's got a record of turning profits, but I don't think he's got too many fans at some of his old employers such as the FA and (particularly) Royal Mail.

The FA link is interesting and makes you wonder whether he'd be committed to retaining the football? Don't think he could look past the financial cost of the contracts though.

...or the fact their coverage of it is bloody awful.

BBC Entertainment Team just tweeted that Morrissey offered to represent the UK at Eurovision in 2007, but the BBC declined.

Seems he wanted 'Making Your Mind Up' axed, so he could go straight through and they said no.

I've often wondered if they could get big names if they just axed the potentially humiliating competition beforehand, but I guess maybe they have to let the public choose the entry? They cheated a little last time by not letting the public choose the song for the first time.

Anyone know what the rules are or what the situation is regarding this year? Is Making Your Mind Up back again?

I guess thats ok seeing as it's only on the BBC HD channel.

I've just caught up with Mon&Tues episodes and i think it's a Brilliant storyline its well written
but allthough the Big stuff happens on Thurs and Fri
it's not like the other soaps as Doctors is not getting any form of adverts it seems
plus alot of people will still be at work.

Maybe the HD episode will rise a little.
I do think if it had a reapt/Omnibus they would get a good rating.

Regarding Hustle versus Law and Order:UK and the HD add on.

Yes, the BBC HD add on will apply to Hustle but Law and Order:UK is on ITV 1 HD.

Now, ITV counts it in the ITV figures as it switches viewers to HD automatically via a red button press.

However, Sky viewers are not 'officially' supposed to get it - as in all the TV mags say it is ONLY available via Freesat.

But Sky viewers do get it, as an 'other channel' option - which presumably means there is no official count of this.

There are now 2 million Sky HD viewers according to todays figures from Sky....probably more than Freesat HD officially watching.

Whilst ITV HD stays off the Sky EPG this is surely going to mean that ITV programmes with an HD option are going to be consistently underrated via the Sky HD viewers tuning in 'unofficially' ?

so Law & Order would be doing better if ITV could count?

France doesn't do any choosing, everything done by people inside and viewers only get to see the finished product.

Well, ITV HD viewers via Sky can access it without being tuned to ITV 1 already - so I would imagine these are simply not included as ITV has no real way to know they have tuned in (unlike Freesat viewers who have to be tuned to ITV 1 to get the HD red button).

I assume that the channel will become official on the Sky EPG in due course, but the problem might be ITV not wishing to pay for that as they probably see the 'exclusivity' on Freesat since June 2008 as a good launch stragtegy.

Of course, ITV HD has never been exclusive to Freesat anyhow. Since that first Summer boxes such as Dreamboxes offered viewers access, but the numbers watching that way are small compared with the rapid increase in Sky HD viewers (nearly half a million in the past few months alone).

How many of the 2 million Sky HD viewers know they can watch ITV HD is another matter, as Sky have never promoted that they can do.

It is getting well known (and widely explained on sites like this in sticky threads) - and some entrepreneurs on the internet have even been selling how to guides to getting ITV HD on Sky HD boxes to unsuspecting customers t sagfe to say the potential ITV HD audience is less than the 2 million customers - though more than enough to make a real difference to viewing figures I suspect.

Good for Royal Mail but ITV1 probably not.

Making Your Mind Up is long gone. It's Your Country needs you and we'll be finding out the composer tomorrow.


The difference there was that France's songs and results were dreadful and as a result audiences didn't tune in (then they went down the route of internal selection) whereas here Eurovision is considered such a joke that people tuned in almost wanting to see how badly our awful entries had done, up until last year of course.

The UK has never had an internal selection. We've had the artist or the song being picked internally but the public (or a jury at least) has always had some sort of say in the entry.

I'm going into time travel to predict what my post on yesterday's ratings will end up like:

People in the UK are smart enough to take Eurovision for what it is, a half hearted competiton and entertainment event. Some countries such as the eastern european countries see it as a great chance to bring attention and toursim to the country. The BBC just want to get all they can out of what they pay for the rights so they stage a competition to see who will be the UK's entry, which fills a few saturday nights up and subsidises the costs.

Broadcast have finally updated, but I can't access the article. Looks like Desperate Housewives and Mad Men started well though.