The last Murder on the vic was different we knew who dunnit
he got buried in the celler of the pub and it took a whille for people to find the body.

This storyline no one knows whodunnit and there's loads of suspects and there is going to be alot of people talking about it and im sure the BBC will go OTT for the big reveal week and Live Episode(Who shot phill?)

Tonight i expect someone to find his dead body as ronnie,Roxy,Peggy ect are at the police station and making a statement.

If i was the BBC i drop SCD on xmas day and Split EastEnders like they used to 630pm and 9pm(If the BBC let them) have Dr who and my family in the middle

Yea that was bad we had iton thinking we might get a few laughs

Unless ITV discover a pressing need for Coronation St to run from 7.30-8.30pm on 19th Feb. I wouldn't put it past them.

Why are HD ratings so low?

At 30 Sept Sky had 1.6m HD subscribers, has been rising at approx 300,000 per quarter so will now be approx 1.9m.

At 30 Sept VM had 750,000 subscribers with V+, growing at just under 100,000 per quarter.

Not sure that all V+ homes will have HD but even allowing for only 50% then total HD homes (assuming none on Freeview) would still be around 2.3m, ie almost 10% of total homes.

Yet BBC HD viewing figures above are in a range of 1.5% to 3.5% of the total audience for the programme.

Seems odd!!!

Is there a communication issue? eg:

- people thinking if they have HD then watching on BBC1 is in HD?

- people only associating HD with Sky channels?

Worth noting the prominent position of Sky Sports HD channels in the EPG whereas BBC HD is several pages down out of sight.

I wonder if there is going to be a similar issue with HD as there has been with people not setting up widescreen TVs properly? - ie people thinking they are watching in HD when they are not.

A close friend of a relative told me adamantly that he was watching BBC HD about six months ago. He doesn't have Sky or VM so I said this was impossible. He said "no, I have an HD TV with built in digital tuner so I am watching HD". He would not believe me when I said he wasn't.

I think HD is largely a status thing. People get the tvs to show off to friends but apart from sports arent that worried about actually watching anything on it.

Im not sure I go with the idea of dropping SCD from the Christmas Day schedule, basically because it is perfect for the Coronation Street hour and probably draws viewers from it. And SCD will quite possibly bounce next year meaning the Christmas show may follow suit.

mlt - I suppose a lot of people with HD boxes just aren't all that bothered about whether they watch programmes in HD or not.

PS: I wonder how many people with HD boxes don't have HD ready TVs?

EE did well anyway so I don't think people need to make excuses for it. I do agree it would've been higher with a DW lead in though like 2007 but it was still 2m+ up on Thursdays episode and it topped the day - don't think you can ask for more.


Good repeat figure for EastEnders even better when considering the late start time.

True but take this week EastEnders has been the most watched soap everyday it's been on so it's been higher then Corrie on Mon,Thur,Fri and ithink the same will go for that week

ITV would be stupid to clash on that friday as yes it will dent Eastenders but corrie will be dented more

I suspect what the BBC need to say prominently is:

"To watch BBC HD go to Freeview channel x, Sky channel 143 or VM channel y "

Just saying "also on BBC HD" is not enough.

The figures show that approx 75% of people who could have watched BBC1 programmes in HD yesterday didn't all because they didn't press 3 buttons. Bizarre!

It was the top-rated Multichannel programme of the day.

See here...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...0-in-full.html

Maybe its because it was Christmas Day? Are you really going to care if you're not watching HD on Christmas Day?

Maybe the BBC don't want to encourage too many people to watch HD as it would drag down the figures for BBC1 overnights which the media and most people on this thread seem to take as the final, offiical, no-arguing-nobody-else-watched-this-programme-except-the-number-of-people-quoted-here ratings.

Good figures for the BBC shows, although not a shock (I enjoyed G&S and Royle Family a lot!) I thought EastEnders might have got a bit more considering it was against Mr and Mrs? Corrie obviously up against stonger competition did reasonably well, improving on last year. Very good performance from Sally Whittaker in it

I wonder if Corrie and Strictly will see the biggest jump in official ratings, as that looks like the only really close clash? People recording one to watch today perhaps?

So the BBC are spending millions of pounds making programmes in HD but don't want people to watch them?

I remember asking about this before and somebody said that for Sky channels the main channel rating includes the HD channel rating (eg Sky Sports 1 rating includes people watching the separate Sky Sports HD1 channel).

But BBC1 ratings do not include BBCHD. Apparently this was the BBC's decision - surely they should revise this?

Or is the problem that BBC HD is not a simulcast whereas Sky HD channels are simulcast (or usually are but occasionally not - eg HD version of CL football on SSX is on SSHD3).

Well, look how much they're spending restoring the colour to the pilot episode of Are You Being Served, 1 episode of Dad's Army and a few episodes of Dr Who.

They might as well go on a spending spree. The Tories will be closing them down in a few years.

You're right, though, they should revise their decision

Very disappointing for Doctor Who. Considering it was 1.7 million down and 8 share points off last year where were the viewers. 500,000 up for Emmerdale may be something and also a disappointing number for SCD may have meant the last quarter didnt get a slight increase, however The Gruffalo was a very good lead-in. Possibly could be the X Factor semi-final/final viewing theory with viewers making less effort to watch this part first time up and catching up in time for next weeks finale and a nice Eastenders sandwich which will probably taste very nice.

Eastenders figure was pretty good considering it was an hour instead of two half hours. Could possibly top 11.5 million in the officials and would be fully deserved for an excellent episode.

The BBC Comedy output did very well with The Royle Family again scoring a 10 million overnight, higher than the figures it was getting 10 years ago. Brilliant for Gavin and Stacey, hopefully this will mean its final episode on a very strong looking night for BBC One can score well over 7 million. Excellent for Catherine Tate despite a very late finish and I was dropping off despite it being very good.

Corrie reversed the battle with SCD and in the end was a million better off than it. Maybe the storyline kept a few viewers from tuning into Strictly. Poor for Mr and Mrs but was to be expected. Also Poirot did ok for its 2 hours, better than Stanley Baxter last year.

Looking back, a game of two halves for BBC One yesterday evening. 6-8pm was pretty dissapointing (based on expectations and previous performances), Eastenders at 8pm was better but still perhaps a tad subdued, and the ratings really came good for the post-watershed comedy. Royle's are an established favourite and sit well after EE, while G&S has proven its popularity and, I think, deserves that plum NYD slot.

The other stand-out was the Gruffallo at 5.30pm. An extremely strong rating for that means we can hopefully look forward to seeing more of these original commissions in the future. The Incredibles was fairly lacklustre in the afternoon - that could be because, although a terrestrial permiere, it was a good few years old - or perhaps if ITV's offerings were stronger?

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Ought to be ITV's strongest night of Christmas tonight with Harry Hill and Ant and Dec pretty solid bankers, though I still think Pirates will do a steady 6m or so.

It had an EastEnders lead in so it could do around 6m but then again how many people would have known EastEnders was on tonight?
EastEnders is trending on twitter again thats the 5th time this year and still the only soap too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8430815.stm

Jay needs to understand that nowadays, unfortunately, BBC tend to win by default. The schedules, yesterday, should have been:

BBC1
17:30 - The Gruffalo
18:00 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
19:00 - EastEnders
19:30 - Doctor Who
20:30 - EastEnders
21:00 - same as proper schedule

ITV1
17:30 - Emmerdale
18:30 - Coronation Street
19:00 - Ant and Dec's Christmas Show
20:30 - Harry Hill's The Best of TV Burp
21:00 - Coronation Street
21:30 - same as proper schedule; half an hour late

ITV would have at least, got decent ratings with Ant and Dec, along with TV Burp. And Doctor Who would have got bigger ratings being in an EastEnders sandwich.

The reason ITV never "try" is because of BBC's 'blandish' and repetitive line-up of: dancing >> Doctor Who >> EastEnders >> [insert comedy here] (I'm not trying to attack the Beeb, but it seems to be the same shows year after year: Royle Family, EE, Who, Strictly; at least ITV have something different other than the soaps)

sorry but what ratings did All Star Mr & Mrs actually get, its not on the Top 20 article

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...0-in-full.html

Ant and Dec's Christmas party was much, much worse than I expected it to be. And I thought it would be shit!

I wish BBC had put a film on that i didn't know word for word. Because this Ant and Dec show has been horrific

i'll be surprised if it beats the repeat film on BBC

2.9m (12.2%)

Full ratings posted here and here.

how come its not on the Top 20 then?