I missed So You Think You Can Dance and Take Me Out..dam...I'm usually a good naff TV magnet!...note to self tune in next week..lol!!

They overlap next week.

Dam...I will have to crank up the PVR then!!..

I will be in naff TV heaven next weekend..all this and the start of Most Haunted Live..(the ultimate in naffness)..BARB won't know what hit it..

Only problem is that CBB has been axed. We know that. It'll probably get ~4.5m, but beaten by BBC1 and ITV1.

If I was Channel 4, I'd be happy by beating either BBC or ITV tonight.

anyone think that ITV1 has some half decent alternative-eastenders programmes next week?

The Lakes, Krypton Factor, Tonight, Countrywise. They also have Lion Country on wednesday giving them a varied early evening half hour each night.

You're right, the finale had 6m.


Frost/Lewis would probably get solid audiences, but I'd prefer if they're kept on Sundays where they get 6-7m (Lewis) or 7-9m (Frost). A Saturday slot could cost them a couple of million, I reckon.

Speaking of Frost, it did excellently on ITV3 last night. As did the rest of the ITV3 schedule.


Colour of Money started with 3.8m (18%) for its first episode, higher than TMO. It had a Harry Hill lead-in from the first week. You're right that the rating did increase the following week by around half a million, though I think a later timeslot and worse competition helped it. Indeed, TMO must be a relatively cheap show to make (certainly compared to Primeval or Demons), but 3.6m in January is still poor IMO. I didn't expect much from the show anyway, though.


I still don't think SYTYCD was good. There's a lot of things that could have been better about it. But it's true that they've got a hit on their hands, and it's promising that the show's audience and share rose throughout rather than staying level or dropping off. If it comes back for a second season, they could definitely improve the show and I'm sure the Beeb would stretch out the auditions process over more weeks.

So glad sytycd did well. I could not understand all the negative comments here yesterdayevening, slating beeb yet again (though i guess that's not surprising on this forum now is it :yawn. The show is exactly the same as the US version just shorter auditions, and I liked the no nonsense intro, who wants to watch 8 weeks of taking the piss out of people a la the Freak factor, it's just mean. Casualty did great too, i had not seen it in ages, but watched as nothing else on and it was excellent, and so sad Piers seems to have performed badly yet again, and the dirge that is Take me out flopped contrary to the rave reviews it was getting from ITV cheerleaders on here.

I couldn't help but notice that 'TheXFactor' Twitter page was flogging the 'itvtakemeout' Twitter page - both run by the same person. 'itvtakemeout' was slightly challenged though:

I wasn't expecting numbers like that for BBC One yesterday. Particularly in the early evening.

What's really impressive about SYTYCD is the steady growth over time. It would rather suggest that next week could be hitting comfortably over 7m for the first live show, which I'm sure the BBC would be delighted with. Total Wipeout is a funny old show in ratings terms - seems to have a large, but very casual, audience. I think last night was actually it's best number ever. The only surprise is that In It To Win It was lower than the shows around it - you don't usually see that.

Very weak for ITV all round, really. The FA Cup underperformed again and just seems to be in a decline year-to-year in terms of it's importance on the sporting calendar. Comparing the peak and average suggests it served up a very weak lead-in to Take Me Out which, thankfully, failed to find an audience of its own. We'll see if it does any better with Harry Hill supporting it. Finally, Mr and Mrs struggles without support in the schedule and Piers Morgan never suited Saturdays, and has never been a ratings hit anyway.

Please quote a few cause I havent read any here Most comments seemed to be saying that its sh!t but hypnotically watchable


There is a big audience for big dramas on Saturday nights I'm convinced. I think Lewis, Frost & Foyle would do great in the 8pm slot. Last year there was the ridiculous wasting of dramas on Sunday night with major pieces not finishing until 11pm on Sunday nights which was too late for a big chunk of the audience.

To ITV i'd say - make 8pm Saturday night your big slot. Own it by having TXF, major dramas & BGT in there for 36 weeks of the year. Make the others work around your ownership of 8-10pm.

Just seen an advert for winter drama on ITV1, which included The Prisoner - suggests it will be aired in the next month or two.

Well it is rubbish, and the BBC have ruined it, but clearly people didn't care. It helps that the competition wasn't exactly strong either.

Nobody said it was good. Everybody agreed it was dirge. Just very well-made dirge. I'm not gonna say it wasn't watchable because it did hold my attention. But I didn't expect it to do any better than it did either - most of us have said it was going to flop from the beginning.

Thanks for those.


Funny how apart from Top Gear most people don't remember the shows on BBC2's list doing so well. Could be the BBC rewriting history, but I think more often than not BBC2 gets overlooked - as it's usually at the price of BBC1, so the angle of BBC1 flopping is often taken.


Yet more confirmation BBC viewers are idiots. Really annoys me Total Wipeout gets such good figures when it is such a poor interpretation of the format, and they show little sign of learning from their mistakes.

Take Me Out flopped as expected, but I think better received by those who watched it (here at least) than many thought. They should have really previewed the first episode after the first part of The X Factor final.

And no excuse at all this time for the FA Cup considering the pre and post-match analysis was cut to the bare minimum.


It does kind of feel like they are showing that film every week lately.

Can anyone get last night's figures for the Darts? (Sky Sports 1 - 7.30pm to 11.30pm).

They were already talking on SYTYCD about some candidates returning "next year", so it would seem the show is going to get a reasonable run and presumably they can expand the auditions a bit.
The thing about the audition was that it is the closest the BBC has got to the ITV style (admittedly only one episode), and actually with real judges rather than cardboard cut outs. Nigel Lythgoe adds so much weight to the panel which is something the BBC has not had since the first series of Fame Academy. Maybe that is what saw the audience increase. However dance does not have the same pull as Karaoke and it will be interesting to see how many of the eight million who finished the show last night stick around for the live shows.
Great night for BBC1 though, the 6 million plus that Casualty sustained over almost two hours is certainly commendable.

I started reading this post without looking at who posted it, but as soon as I saw this paragraph I knew it was Brekkie.

If you really, really hate the BBC version of TW then stop watching it, because you are seriously ruining my enjoyment of the series with your constant sniping.

The ratings for last night, and indeed last week when it beat TV Burp shows the BBC haven't made any mistakes with this programme. The Great British Public neither know of nor care about the other versions of this programme. We just enjoy watching people falling into mud, falling into water, falling off big red balls and getting punched in the groin with big red boxing gloves. And Richard Hammond's tongue-in-cheek commentary is great fun, too.

It's interesting, because I don't remember the BBC ever running a series of audition shows before.

Things like Fame Academy, Dance X, Andrew Lloyd Webber shows had auditions but only for one or two episodes.

Well I obviously hit a raw nerve then because if you enjoyed it that much you wouldn't care.


All those things remain in other versions of the show, but each episode feels fresh, rather than using the same things week in, week out. We should get it in series 3, but last nights show was crying out for the motivator on the Big Balls when three or four of the celebs spent ages hovering at the top.

It seriously pisses me off that the BBC probably pay one of the bigger fees for the rights to the show outside of America, yet have far from realised the full potential of the show, and hence we're not getting the best show possible for our money. There is just no excuse for the cut price version we receive.

Another good night for BBC1.

Can't make my mind up whether scheduling SYTYCD at 6 rather than 7 was a good move or not. Given that the FA Cup probably outrated SYTYCD for most of the slot, whilst Take Me Out flopped, it looks like it cost SYTYCD a good 1-2m viewers. But then if the show was as crap as everyone says, then maybe hooking in 8m for the last 15 mins only was a more effective primer for next week than having 8m tune in at 7pm and then see millions drift away and not come back next week for the series-proper.

Excellent for Casualty - 7m (as it will be) for a 1h50m double episode finishing at 10.50 is superb.

Could be a good few weeks for BBC1 then, with Six Nations ties coming up too.

Looks like ITV are going to suffer an FA Cup ratings blow unless Man U pull off a comeback in the next 5 minutes!

Not sure whether it was Fincham or Fergusson that bribed the ref to get 5 minutes for a half with no stopages!

Man Utd out of FA Cup - Oh dear for ITV!

I thought exactly the same!

Chin up, George - Liverpool might stay in it...

ITV should definitely have 6m match average for the game today.

Well, that'd be a certainty if it was on the Beeb, as its on ITV you can knock 1m straight off that. Mind you Leeds is trending on Twitter.

Yes Im a United follower and I dont know where that 5 mins came from. But ITV have had there one shot only showing Man U this season in the F A Cup. Strange quirk given they have so many games to show.