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Old 06-01-2010, 20:17
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How much is due to BB though, as this still had a strong 16-34 following? Taking the wall to wall coverage off E4 has got to hurt them surely?
Like the article states, I think Misfits, The Inbetweeners and Skins really contributes to the strong 16-34 following for E4 these days. The rating of 1.5m for the Inbetweeners was particularly impressive. And I think this good trend for E4 will continue, as they have now built up a strong reputation amongst the 16-34 audience to deliver some good drama and comedy, with the established hits also being embedded into the schedule.
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Old 06-01-2010, 20:35
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And I pictured Zoe M as a shapely, attractive blonde lady. Turns out George is actually around my age, and Zoe's a fella!

LOL

Any predictions for tonight?

It's pretty tough to predict, but I had ago!

BBC1:

Celebrity Mastermind - 6.8m
Nigel Slater - 7.2m
News Special - 8.8m
My Family - 8.0m
New Tricks - 6.6m

ITV1:

Emmerdale - 8.9m
Lion Country - 4.0m
You've Been Framed Kid's Special - 5.5m
Anove Suspicion - 6.8m
Glad my 11m prediction for EE came true for last night, can't see anything aside from BBC Weather Special getting even close to 10m tonight though.

Can see BBC3 doing more than ok tonight from 7.40pm Madagascar film followed by King Arthur film to 22.55.

Personally I would have preferred this on BBC1 to Nigel Slater - Weather Special - New Tricks - News etc.

Here is my prediction for tonight

BBC1:

Celebrity Mastermind - 7.1m
News Special - 10.50m
My Family - 8.5m
New Tricks - 7.9m

ITV1:

Emmerdale - 8.1m
Lion Country - 3.9m
You've Been Framed Kid's Special - 4.5m
Above Suspicion - 7.8m
If anyone would have predicted these figures a week ago I would have laughed so much, but anything's possible now I guess.

My PREDICTIONS:

Celebrity Mastermind- 6.7m
Nigel Slater-7.4m
BBC News Special- 7.8m
My Family- 6.5m
New Tricks- 5.6m

Emmerdale- 8.0m
Lion Country- 6.6m
YBF- 6.0m
Above Suspicion- 7.0m
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Old 06-01-2010, 20:39
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To join in with the prediction fest:

BBC Regional News - 10.1m
Celebrity Mastermind - 7.3m
Nigel Slater's Winter Suppers - 8.1m
BBC News Special - 8.9m
My Family - 5.3m
New Tricks - 6.3m

Emmerdale - 8.7m
Lion Country - 5.1m
You've Been Framed! - 6.2m
Above Suspicion - 6.5m
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Old 06-01-2010, 20:44
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Someone has put on the Masterchef thread that the new series starts on BBC One on February 24th.

I honestly don't have a clue how they're going to schedule this. The last series on BBC Two had 32 eps, which must be getting cut down majorly.

They'll also have the final 10 eps of Waterloo Road to show, which if they want finished by the time the World Cup comes round, will have to start airing by the 7 April.

So if they were to run it Wednesday and Thursday from the 24 Feb until 1 April, they'd only have 12 episodes in which to get it all done in.

Any other suggestions as to how they'll schedule it?
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Old 06-01-2010, 20:50
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My PREDICTIONS:
Lion Country- 6.6m
I also think Lion Country will do well tonight, not quite as high as 6.6m but somewhere around 5.5m. I didn't watch it but it sounds like the sort of show which usually gets a good share of viewers.

It's a 6 part series, but it looks like ITV will be spreading the remaining episodes across the next few months on Wednesday nights which don't have football on. A good start tonight can only be a positive thing for future episodes.

I agree with the rest of your predictions. 6:30pm BBC Regional News to get over 10m I reckon.
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Old 06-01-2010, 20:54
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Someone has put on the Masterchef thread that the new series starts on BBC One on February 24th.

I honestly don't have a clue how they're going to schedule this. The last series on BBC Two had 32 eps, which must be getting cut down majorly.

They'll also have the final 10 eps of Waterloo Road to show, which if they want finished by the time the World Cup comes round, will have to start airing by the 7 April.

So if they were to run it Wednesday and Thursday from the 24 Feb until 1 April, they'd only have 12 episodes in which to get it all done in.

Any other suggestions as to how they'll schedule it?
Erm:

Episode 1 - 8pm, Wednesday 24th February
Episode 2 - 8:30pm, Friday 26th February
Episode 3 - 7:30pm, Monday 1st March
Episode 4 - 8:30pm, Monday 1st March
Episode 5 and 6 - 8:00pm, Thursday 4th March
Episode 7 - 8:30pm, Friday 5th March

Sorry, but given the BBC's absolute scheduling stupidity, I'd put anything past Masterchef's scheduling (although definitely not, I hope, to the above degree).
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Old 06-01-2010, 20:57
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Erm:

Episode 1 - 8pm, Wednesday 24th February
Episode 2 - 8:30pm, Friday 26th February
Episode 3 - 7:30pm, Monday 1st March
Episode 4 - 8:30pm, Monday 1st March
Episode 5 and 6 - 8:00pm, Thursday 4th March
Episode 7 - 8:30pm, Friday 5th March

Sorry, but given the BBC's absolute scheduling stupidity, I'd put anything past Masterchef's scheduling (although definitely not, I hope, to the above degree).
The sad thing is DMN, you're probably right
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:25
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How long are the Masterchef episodes? I seem to remember that Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef: The Professionals couldn't really make their mind up!

I'm sure the scheduling will be all over the place, as per usual - they'd be much better off leaving it on BBC Two, where it can be the centrepeice of the schedule for a few weeks and provide great opportunities for shows around it. But no, they'd rather use it as plastercene to plug random slots in the BBC One schedule.
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:31
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I think people may be over-predicting what the BBC News Special will get. Despite a great slot and a potentially huge audience, it was not a great effort and felt more of an "opt-in" to the BBC News Channel.
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:32
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According to ITV Press Centre and ITV Insider, they have extended next week's second Thursday episode of Emmerdale to an hour so it's on at 8-9pm. So, they've moved Corrie to 7:30pm to clash against EastEnders.

Bad form from ITV, if you ask me. I'd expect Corrie to edge the clash as it's got a good soap sandwich and even though EE beat it last time they clashed (in the overnights), EE had a big episode on and a headstart.
If it's true that ITV should really grow up
clashing both soaps like this is unfair.
They are obviously annoyed that their Corrie hasn't rated as high as EastEnders has this past 3/weeks.

So Emmerdale 7-730
Corrie 730-8pm
Emmerdale 8-9pm

?
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:36
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How long are the Masterchef episodes? I seem to remember that Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef: The Professionals couldn't really make their mind up!

I'm sure the scheduling will be all over the place, as per usual - they'd be much better off leaving it on BBC Two, where it can be the centrepeice of the schedule for a few weeks and provide great opportunities for shows around it. But no, they'd rather use it as plastercene to plug random slots in the BBC One schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if thats the real reason Jay Hunt wanted it on BBC1. I suppose anything is better than daytime rubbish that she is obsessed with but why not put masterchef at 5.30? and move weakest link to 2.15 every day, they did it when land girls aired it september.
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:42
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How long are the Masterchef episodes? I seem to remember that Celebrity Masterchef and Masterchef: The Professionals couldn't really make their mind up!

I'm sure the scheduling will be all over the place, as per usual - they'd be much better off leaving it on BBC Two, where it can be the centrepeice of the schedule for a few weeks and provide great opportunities for shows around it. But no, they'd rather use it as plastercene to plug random slots in the BBC One schedule.
The length of Celebrity Masterchef never used to make sense. They should have had it Wednesday and Thursday @ 8pm, dropped the Friday @ 8:30pm episodes and made up the slack with a long run.

Don't even get me started on Masterchef: The Professionals. Living in Scotland, trying to find it in the schedule was like trying to find a needle in a hay-stack. It was obviously meant for the 5:15pm slot, but was promoted at the last minute.

The last series of Masterchef had 32 eps @ an hour each i.e. 32 hours. They could have reduced this down to 20 episodes and run them Wednesday and Thursday nights for 10 weeks from 27 January i.e. once the Carling Cup ties were out the way. With them slipping out Material Girl (which supposedly cost £6m to make ) on Thursdays at 8, there's no chance of them doing that now.
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:59
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So ABC has been running promos for "Lost - returning February 2nd" since November now in almost every ad break.

Sounds good... except the White House are now mulling putting Obama's State of the Union address that night.

Watch ABC go nuts...
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Old 06-01-2010, 22:04
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DOI TV3 figures need to be added too!
What about those in northern France, Belgium and Holland who watched SCD on BBC1? It is well known that the BBC services are particularly popular in the low countries, indeed, the popularity of darts in Holland is said to be entirely down to Dutch viewers picking up BBC transmissions from the Lakeside over the years.

With lots of families waiting for X Factor perhaps a more youthful friendly show before 8 would be better for BBC1 rather than Grannyfile.
I like Countryfile. I'm 33.

What makes you think it's "granny fodder"? Antiques Roadshow, possibly, but a country affairs magazine show?

Somehow, I don't think BBC will be in any rush to move Countryfile considering it consistently gets 5m+. Besides, where would it get moved to?
Well, it's moved back to 6pm now Lark Rise is starting and AR has gone back to 7pm. So I imagine it will be at 6pm for some time to come. Wasn't it airing at 6pm when it first got promoted to prime time last year?

I think people may be over-predicting what the BBC News Special will get. Despite a great slot and a potentially huge audience, it was not a great effort and felt more of an "opt-in" to the BBC News Channel.
It was rubbish, I didn't expect a 30 min live simulcast with the news channel, complete with news banner too!

I missed the first 5 mins or so, but it was half an hour of talking heads. They could have tried to make some sort of hastily-cobbled together documentary, full of people slipping and sliding about, and lots of winter wonderland scenes - that's what we're all tuning in to see. I don't really want a 5 minute interview with the Barnsley NHS Trust Chief Exec telling me they've had 188 broken bones since it snowed. Whoopie-doo.

I thought this might approach 10m, but not now - half that will be a good result. I do think the latest YBF compilation repeat will do very well, possibly near 10m, and end up one of the most-watched shows of 2010 probably.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Lion Country outrates Nigel Slater's hasty repeat. The former is new, the latter only aired a few weeks back and rated well first time round.

I wouldn't be surprised if BBC Regional News 6.30 is top-rated show of the night, not that BARB will ever recognise that officially.
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Old 06-01-2010, 22:11
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Well, it's moved back to 6pm now Lark Rise is starting and AR has gone back to 7pm. So I imagine it will be at 6pm for some time to come. Wasn't it airing at 6pm when it first got promoted to prime time last year?
I don't see why BBC One didn't just rest AR just now rather than pushing it back to 7pm. It could then return once Lark Rise is finished to complete its run.

Instead we'll probably see CF promoted to the 8pm slot during the summer months.
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Old 06-01-2010, 22:21
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If it's true that ITV should really grow up
clashing both soaps like this is unfair.
They are obviously annoyed that their Corrie hasn't rated as high as EastEnders has this past 3/weeks.

So Emmerdale 7-730
Corrie 730-8pm
Emmerdale 8-9pm

?
I suggest you actually read the entire conversation before commenting:

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Old 06-01-2010, 22:25
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I suggest you actually read the entire conversation before commenting:

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sorry
i just read bits not the full thing
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Old 06-01-2010, 22:49
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The last series of Masterchef had 32 eps @ an hour each i.e. 32 hours. They could have reduced this down to 20 episodes and run them Wednesday and Thursday nights for 10 weeks from 27 January i.e. once the Carling Cup ties were out the way. With them slipping out Material Girl (which supposedly cost £6m to make ) on Thursdays at 8, there's no chance of them doing that now.
Most episodes of MasterChef last year were 30 minutes, as it ran (for 8 weeks):

Monday-Wednesday: 8.30-9.00pm
Thursday: 8.00-9.00pm

With the Wednesday episode of the last week extended to an hour, meaning that the whole series ran for 20.5 hours. Make that 20 hours and you end up with two hours a week for 10 weeks, so it could therefore run:

Monday: 7.30-8.00pm
Wednesday: 8.00-9.00pm
Friday: 7.30-8.00pm

Which would be decent enough I suppose. Perhaps with the new series of My Family or another family comedy at 7.30pm on Wednesday. I'm not sure if that 24th February date is true, tbh. Starting it on a Wednesday seems odd and too late for Waterloo Road and Watchdog to be wrapped up in time for the World Cup. however it does fit in with the end date of Material Girl. However, it would only give it six weeks. Knowing BBC1, however, it could run like this for six weeks:

Monday: 7.30-8.00pm
Wednesday: 8.00-9.00pm
Thursday: 8.00-9.00pm
Friday: 7.30-8.00pm

But that's too much for one week imo, and I much prefer the first option.
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Old 06-01-2010, 22:52
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Like the article states, I think Misfits, The Inbetweeners and Skins really contributes to the strong 16-34 following for E4 these days. The rating of 1.5m for the Inbetweeners was particularly impressive. And I think this good trend for E4 will continue, as they have now built up a strong reputation amongst the 16-34 audience to deliver some good drama and comedy, with the established hits also being embedded into the schedule.
I hope E4 have the sense to give Misfits a re-run in the post-Skins slot when it returns in an effort to boost it's audience for the second series.

The Inbetweeners isn't filming till the Spring, so probably won't air till the autumn.

Someone has put on the Masterchef thread that the new series starts on BBC One on February 24th.

I honestly don't have a clue how they're going to schedule this. The last series on BBC Two had 32 eps, which must be getting cut down majorly.

They'll also have the final 10 eps of Waterloo Road to show, which if they want finished by the time the World Cup comes round, will have to start airing by the 7 April.

So if they were to run it Wednesday and Thursday from the 24 Feb until 1 April, they'd only have 12 episodes in which to get it all done in.

Any other suggestions as to how they'll schedule it?
It said in The Sun (I think) today it'll run for 8 weeks - but will undoubtedly be stupidly scheduled. Think they said there are 132 contestants, so that suggests more than 8 one-hour shows!
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Old 06-01-2010, 23:16
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Horrific numbers for ABC. I guess they're just burning those shows off now, but even still...
I still don't know why they brought the 2 shows back. Scrubs was apparently to do with syndication but considering it's an all new cast, I do wonder if the episodes will prove to be popular. Better Off Ted did awfully last season and worse this year.

And who knew a weight loss show would skew so young? NCIS almost doubles its overall viewership, but is still behind in the demographic! As I was saying yesterday, we'd have such a different conception of what was a success and what wasn't if we judged out ratings by demos.
Indeed. It's a shame that ITV don't do press releases. They are usually filled with a ridiculous amount of spin, but they always include some interesting numbers that will go beyond the headline ratings.

It's rare for us even to hear ABC1 or 16-34 data for the most popular shows.

NBC must be thankful for The Biggest Loser. That, Sunday Night Football and The Office seems to be all thats keeping them going these days.
They are fortunate that their 2 biggest shows (The Biggest Loser and SNF) both run 2 hours or more. SNF in particular is really inflating their figures just now. They'll have the winter olympics once the football finishes but it will then be a long few months until America's Got Talent manages to make them competitive for the summer. Plus, Idol dents The Biggest Loser.

I'm sure there will be more build-up to Idol's premiere and its predicted ratings in the next few days. The ad that they're running with Ellen is quite good.

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Must say Starz isn't a US cable network I'd heard of before (certainly not like HBO/Showtime), but they've taken the bold move of commissioning a second series of Spartacus (titled Spartacus: Vengence) before the first (Blood and Sand) has even aired, though as it doesn't go into production until next year I'd imagine it'll be late 2011 at the earliest it would air.

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/01/...-and-sand.html

Don't think a UK network has picked it up - not quite sure what to make of it really- could be really good or really awful - so a brave, if not stupid, move by Starz.
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Old 06-01-2010, 23:34
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I'm not sure if that 24th February date is true, tbh. Starting it on a Wednesday seems odd and too late for Waterloo Road and Watchdog to be wrapped up in time for the World Cup.
Haven't people around here learnt by now the BBC schedulers don't think of things like that, as was very evident by Christmas. Finishing such shows in time for the World Cup would be the sensible thing to do - so why anyone expects it from the BBC is beyond me.

Expect shows to have a couple of episodes left when the World Cup kicks off, and for those episodes to be pushed around the schedules as the BBC sees fit - not so much to accommodate the football, but more to accommodate any displaced episodes of EastEnders, Holby and Casualty.
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Old 07-01-2010, 00:06
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With Big Brother coming to an end this year on Channel 4, do we expect to see another show as big as Big Brother on Channel 4 in the future.

I feel channel 4 are very bad at looking afer their top shows.In less than 10 years they have axed Big Brother, Big Breakfast and Brookside.
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Old 07-01-2010, 00:13
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Andrew Neil welcomed all the "new" viewers watching this lunch, saying due to the snow they are expecting their largest rating ever, while Chris Evans on This Morning telling Holly Willoughby 10 million could be watching due to the snow and enjoy herself as millions extra will be watching.

Will be very interesting how accurate they both are.
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Old 07-01-2010, 02:19
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I wouldnt wish daytime tv on anyone who didn't brave the snow to go to work Mon Tues or Wed - it is amazingly bad.

Admittedly C4 do run some classic films around 1pm - but ITV1 and BBC1 are lucky to get 1m viewers and quite rightly so with the output that is delivered.

Can see the lunchtime news having an increase though - also BBC News and Sky News.
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