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Indirect bullying of Dannii
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Satnavvy
14-12-2009
I do not agree with the term "bullying" but I think it is pretty clear she has been marginalised.

BTW did anyone feel as nauseated as I was by Cheryl and Simon arm in in arm at the end of the show last night - it was like "we did it Simon" - "no darling, it was all for you".

He wanted her to win so badly and I am convinced he manipulated the bad PR about Danyl to move public support to Joe.
LemonPledge
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“I do not agree with the term "bullying" but I think it is pretty clear she has been marginalised.

BTW did anyone feel as nauseated as I was by Cheryl and Simon arm in in arm at the end of the show last night - it was like "we did it Simon" - "no darling, it was all for you".

He wanted her to win so badly and I am convinced he manipulated the bad PR about Danyl to move public support to Joe.”

wouldn't surprise me.
panda_eyes
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“I do not agree with the term "bullying" but I think it is pretty clear she has been marginalised.

BTW did anyone feel as nauseated as I was by Cheryl and Simon arm in in arm at the end of the show last night - it was like "we did it Simon" - "no darling, it was all for you".

He wanted her to win so badly and I am convinced he manipulated the bad PR about Danyl to move public support to Joe.”

You could clearly see the divide between the four judges; Simon and Cheryl arms around each other on one end, Dannii and Louis as far on the opposite end as physically possible.
kitten12
14-12-2009
Their body language left me feeling queasy. I am convinced he has a massive financial interest in Cheryl Cole's career.
Sam Hunter
14-12-2009
That was quite rude when Simon and Cheryl were cuddling, he's like a lap dog to her and she takes advantage of it coz he can and has made her a star.

I do think the judges are different to what they are on camera, I don't think Dannii is sidelined backstage just looks it on camera. Or if she is she doesn't seem to care.
grimtales1
14-12-2009
I really like Dannii, she has conducted herself with grace and dignity and is the best (only?) decent judge IMO, she has been treated appallingly this season
grimtales1
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“I do not agree with the term "bullying" but I think it is pretty clear she has been marginalised.

BTW did anyone feel as nauseated as I was by Cheryl and Simon arm in in arm at the end of the show last night - it was like "we did it Simon" - "no darling, it was all for you".

He wanted her to win so badly and I am convinced he manipulated the bad PR about Danyl to move public support to Joe.”

I didn't see it, is it on YT or repeated?
Cheryl is very pretty, and I do like her in that sense, but Simon is old enough to be her dad
monique!
14-12-2009
tbh i dont think cheryl has done anything wrong towards dannii, i mean theyre not bestfriends but they get along otherwise why would cheryl bother buying dannii a birthday present. I must admit simon is a bit weird the way he bums her but i mean hes admitted he fancies her so hes obviously going to get as close as possible. + dannii herself has always said cheryl is perfectly nice to her and makes the effort to talk to her especially when she was going through a rough time earlier in the year.

your trying to find every reason to hate cheryl but personally i dont think you can hate someone you dont know..
kitten12
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“I didn't see it, is it on YT or repeated?
Cheryl is very pretty, and I do like her in that sense, but Simon is old enough to be her dad ”

It was whilst Joe was reprising the winner's song at the end.

I am not sure you have anything to worry about those two - I don't think Cheryl (or any other woman) is his type
grimtales1
14-12-2009
Thanks
Just who is Simon's type?
louislavinia
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Holly supposedly gets on quite well with Dannii, so I doubt it was deliberate! Dannii isn't overly outspoken. She doesn't go for the blunt critiques that Simon does (or Louis sometimes). Hence why nearly all interaction on the panel goes through Simon because the other judges can get angry at what he says. You don't see a huge amount of Cheryl/Louis banter on the main show either unless he's agreeing with Simon about something then she tells them to shut up like naughty schoolboys! The Xtra Factor panel mainly revolves around Simon insulting and winding up Louis and sometimes Cheryl (and them doing it back).

Tonight, when he sarcastically remarked on Dannii's spectacularly wrong prediction, even thought she laughed, we were treated to a predictable "bullying" thread on here. If he can't take the pi*s out of her, they won't interact. He doesn't exactly sit around on Xtra Factor dishing out compliments for the judges.

A few weeks ago he was talking about how he and Louis can argue because they have been friends for ages and know each other so well. It seems that this forum has decided that Simon and Dannii aren't close enough that he should be allowed to say anything bad about her. Which means he won't have anything to say about her on the show! I think that of all of them (judges only), Simon isn't as close to Dannii as he is with Louis or Cheryl which is possibly playing a part in it.

If he seriously disliked her, she'd have got the groups or, more simply, been fired.”

I don't think he disliked her as much when they were giving out the catagories they would be judging. I think it was after that, during the first few live shows. It would be extremely difficult to sack someone at that stage of the competition. He has the power to do so of course. But remember it is his show and it could damage it tremendously. Better to hang on until the end.
About Simon being closer to Louis than he is with Cheryl. Err no, I don't think so! I think Simon is a whole lot closer to Cheryl than he has ever been to anyone for a very long time. If ever! Probobly because she is unavailable.
willywonker
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Luckily for you some people, 'Channii' supporters, have made a number of videos which prove otherwise:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUDD...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJh01...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05p4Ar2zFeg”

'Channii ' supporters give me strength..

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