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Sagem DTR94250S
acppca27
14-12-2009
Been testing this freesat PVR over the weekend, not too impressed.

The fan is very noisy and seems to run continually.
It locked up after about an hour outputting only audio (somethings never change)

Volume controls are very coarse
menus and controls are very fiddly
Some remote buttons do not do any thing
One recording have few seconds missing
Buffer max is +/-5 minutes
No optical audio output

Adding non free sat channels in terrible, they have to be added manually. All the channel on each frequency have to be added, undesirable channels can only be hidden and not deleted. But there is a timer function to record.

acp
Tern
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by acppca27:
“Been testing this freesat PVR over the weekend, not too impressed.

The fan is very noisy and seems to run continually.
It locked up after about an hour outputting only audio (somethings never change)

Volume controls are very coarse
menus and controls are very fiddly
Some remote buttons do not do any thing
One recording have few seconds missing
Buffer max is +/-5 minutes
No optical audio output

Adding non free sat channels in terrible, they have to be added manually. All the channel on each frequency have to be added, undesirable channels can only be hidden and not deleted. But there is a timer function to record.

acp”

Welcome to the forums (as a poster).

You've certainly been busy in the couple of hours since you posted that you were thinking of buying the box here.

You bought it, set it up and found a whole load of problems.

It's a pity you didn't do a more thorough search as someone on another site went out and bought one of these boxes and immediately posted about all the problems. Very similar list to yours.

I'm quite curious as to how you managed to get a weekend of testing in between 11:15 today when you were "seriously considering buying" and 13:50.
rozet
14-12-2009
Could it be that acppca27 is now seriously considering the Goodmans rather than the Sagem which he has found problems with over a longer period?

I would add that if either of these brands had provided diseqcontrol I too would have been closer to a purchase. I like the fact you don't have to switch modes to get from freesat to non-freesat channels but it's no use having easier non-freesat if you are stuck with 28.2E.
acppca27
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“Welcome to the forums (as a poster).

You've certainly been busy in the couple of hours since you posted that you were thinking of buying the box here.

You bought it, set it up and found a whole load of problems.

It's a pity you didn't do a more thorough search as someone on another site went out and bought one of these boxes and immediately posted about all the problems. Very similar list to yours.

I'm quite curious as to how you managed to get a weekend of testing in between 11:15 today when you were "seriously considering buying" and 13:50.”

Thanks for you kind words of welcome

Sorry my posts are a bit mixed up, I trend to backwards think.

Yes I bought the Sagem on Friday evening and am now considering the Goodsman instead.

That fan is driving me totally crazy

I agree I should have done more research on this

Desperation kicked in, been running on freesat tv no record facility for a while now.

acp
grahamlthompson
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by acppca27:
“Thanks for you kind words of welcome

Sorry my posts are a bit mixed up, I trend to backwards think.

Yes I bought the Sagem on Friday evening and am now considering the Goodsman instead.

That fan is driving me totally crazy

I agree I should have done more research on this

Desperation kicked in, been running on freesat tv no record facility for a while now.

acp”

Why not a foxsat-hdr ?
acppca27
14-12-2009
I was originally going to buy the Humax, but then I discovered the lack of non-freesat recording functions, I changed my mind.

Its a tricky one
grahamlthompson
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by acppca27:
“I was originally going to buy the Humax, but then I discovered the lack of non-freesat recording functions, I changed my mind.

Its a tricky one”

Does the Goodmans have a timer for non-freesat recording then ?
nthompson0033
14-12-2009
I am almost certain Pannasonic can record programs from other sattelite menu, except everything I know of
I would rather not put on my hard disc, no Disqe control is available though
If you are interested let me know & I will prove it for certain.
acppca27
14-12-2009
According to the manual

Goodmans GFSDTR320HD Manual

Grundig GUFSDTR320HD Manual

links fixed
grahamlthompson
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by acppca27:
“Sorry for it

Grundig GUFSDTR320HD Manual

Goodmans GFSDTR320HD Manual”

The links don't work.
acppca27
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“The links don't work. ”

Why quote links that don't work ???
grahamlthompson
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by acppca27:
“Why quote links that don't work ???”

You tell me you posted them. Both give this page is not available reports

Why not siimply answer the question I will believe you honestly

Can anyone else get these to work ?
jzee
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“You tell me you posted them. Both give this page is not available reports

Why not siimply answer the question I will believe you honestly

Can anyone else get these to work ?”

acppca27 originally missed the f off pdf they fixed them afterwards.
grahamlthompson
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by jzee:
“acppca27 originally missed the f off pdf they fixed them afterwards.”

How very dishonest . Why not simply come clean
grahamlthompson
14-12-2009
Well I read the manuals and still no wiser. It looks as if you might be able to see non-freesat channels in freesat mode but in the absense of an epg how are you going to schedule a recording. There's no mention that I can see of a manual timer setting capability.

I doubt it can pull of the recording two viewing 3rd (in some cases even live buffer the third giving time shifting capability).

No way to use with only 1 cable either.

What usb archiving capability does it have ? The hdr now has unlimited archiving for SD and BBC HD.
acppca27
14-12-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Well I read the manuals and still no wiser. It looks as if you might be able to see non-freesat channels in freesat mode but in the absense of an epg how are you going to schedule a recording. There's no mention that I can see of a manual timer setting capability.”

I believe page 16 details manual timer recording for non free sat channels
If a certain non free sat channel has a program on every Tuesday night at 8:00pm then I could set up a reoccurring timer for this. Most channels have schedules on their websites.
acppca27
14-12-2009
Anyway back to the sagem, it lost the ability to pause / play live tv today, another power reset was required.

(3 days 2 resets), oh the joy
acppca27
15-12-2009
Few more observations

No program reminder function
No program find function
Guide always goes to genre first
Guide is not transparent
acppca27
17-12-2009
No Instant record on non free-sat channels
No Deferred record on non free-sat channels

Timed records on non free-sat channels create files with file name "unknown" and no details. You can not rename them to something meaningful.

Its time for the box and receipt I thinks.
derekb1
27-01-2010
did you return it in the end?

Is the fan on even in standby?
is "digital audio out" not optical out then? or are they different?
manual says the buffer can be 1 or 2 hours not 5 mins?

have you stuck with it or bought something new?
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