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Blu-Ray Upscaling of DVDs .. Question
I'm on the verge of replacing my older Panasonic PT460 Home Cinema system (standard DVD), with the Panasonic SC-BT200 one (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-SC.../dp/B001Y91M6W) which will give me my first foray into the world of Blu-Ray!
It may be a silly question, but will a Blu-Ray player upscale a "normal" DVD, better than an upscaling DVD player would? (my current DVD player upscales and it's connected via HDMI) - obviously I know the quality of Blu-Ray Discs will be immediately evident, but will I noticed any difference with an upscaled DVD in a Blu-Ray player, over the same disc being played in my old upscaling DVD player? |
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Upscaling quality depends entirely on what upscaler and Blu-ray player you have. Having had an good quality Samusng upscaler for a couple of years, and being happy with it, I was unimpressed by the upscaling from my Sharp Aquos Blu-ray player, which tbh is just plain nasty.
But my £70 Curtis Bly-Ray player upscales very nicely. |
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I'm on the verge of replacing my older Panasonic PT460 Home Cinema system (standard DVD), with the Panasonic SC-BT200 one (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-SC.../dp/B001Y91M6W) which will give me my first foray into the world of Blu-Ray!
It may be a silly question, but will a Blu-Ray player upscale a "normal" DVD, better than an upscaling DVD player would? (my current DVD player upscales and it's connected via HDMI) - obviously I know the quality of Blu-Ray Discs will be immediately evident, but will I noticed any difference with an upscaled DVD in a Blu-Ray player, over the same disc being played in my old upscaling DVD player? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1&postcount=99 |
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i have a PS3 and a sony HDD-DVD (HDRX890 I think)- PS3 definitely upscales better than the Sony
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Generally BluRay players (and HD-DVD) upscale far better than DVD players, as they use more expensive scalers.
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Generally BluRay players (and HD-DVD) upscale far better than DVD players, as they use more expensive scalers.
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Thank you all for your informative replies. Very much appreciated
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...It may be a silly question, but will a Blu-Ray player upscale a "normal" DVD, better than an upscaling DVD player would? .
You can buy blu-ray player for less than upscaling DVD player so logic dictates it must be better at the job (otherwise it simply wouldn't have a market - at all!) . |
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You can buy blu-ray player for less than upscaling DVD player so logic dictates it must be better at the job (otherwise it simply wouldn't have a market - at all!) . |
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Oh no it does not. I have a 3yr old Denon DVD player that cost £250.00 it had the best scaler available at the time. My £150.00 Sony bluray scales normal DVD's a lot better. Like everything else technology advances have improved scaler designs.
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Agree 100%, I used to have a Denon which I sold when I bought my BD player as the BD scaler was better.
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Oh no it does not.
Oh yes it does! (well it is panto season ![]() Quote:
I have a 3yr old Denon DVD player that cost £250.00.....
I am talking about comparing new - like for like (as per the OP requirments) Obviously! Quote:
My £150.00 Sony bluray scales normal DVD's a lot better.....
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Oh yes it does! (well it is panto season ![]() Yeah well i have 6 year old car that originally cost £22K... I am talking about comparing new - like for like (as per the OP requirments) Obviously! It will not do as good a job of std DVD as Toshiba which has custom built engine for upscaling std DVD - fooooooooooooooooor sure!!!!!!! . |
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Kept mine because it plays CD's a lot better than the bluray.
so a short lead sorted that issue
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It will not do as good a job of std DVD as Toshiba which has custom built engine for upscaling std DVD - fooooooooooooooooor sure!!!!!!! It will have a scaling chip like any other player - and seeing it only costs £99 not a high end one. If good quality upscaling is important then a dedicated scaler is the way to go, which will cost you £1k upwards. |
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It's nothing more than a gimmick, a play on words.
It will have a scaling chip like any other player - and seeing it only costs £99 not a high end one. |
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Oh yes it does! (well it is panto season ![]() Yeah well i have 6 year old car that originally cost £22K... I am talking about comparing new - like for like (as per the OP requirments) Obviously! It will not do as good a job of std DVD as Toshiba which has custom built engine for upscaling std DVD - fooooooooooooooooor sure!!!!!!! .
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Can't talk about the Tosh ....
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Well how about some examples then, it's fine quoting the advertising guff until you actually compare how do you know. My posting is based on actual personal experience not a hunch
![]() that's a factMine is based on logic (average high school student could grassp) and reading owner reviews which seems to support the logic Of course i dont need to justify anything to you - but for the benefit of the poster who will be the one buyin somthing Toshiba XDE500 It seems to get very good reviews with regard to picture quality and any bad reviews are always with regard to something else - go figure - i might give one a try on my rather extensive antique DVD collection - but i'm fairly confident that std blu-ray player wont touch it for std DVD - in fact i think one user actually sold his blu-ray player in favour of it . . |
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It's nothing more than a gimmick, a play on words
It will have a scaling chip like any other player - and seeing it only costs £99 not a high end one... Quote:
If good quality upscaling is important then a dedicated scaler is the way to go, which will cost you £1k upwards.
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Thers nothing there that suggests blu-ray player will be better - which is what the threat is about
I personally wouldn't go solely on owners reviews - PQ is subjective, what looks good to one user will look poor to others. I prefer personal experience. If anything, price depicts quality, seeing the Tosh is only £99 I wouldn't bet any of my money on it being better than any BD player of the same price. Quote:
that's not what the OP is talking about either - but to add some sort of proportion - you propabably already know that you need to double your money to get at best 10% improvement, so without doing the actual maths a £1000 scaler will be about 1/2 as good again as £100 scaler - so my recommendation to the OP is, dont waste a grand on a scaler
. They wanted to know if the BD player they are interested in would upscale as good as their std DVD player - the answer to that is, there's a very good chance it will equal if not better it when you compare the two models in question. My reference to the dedicated scaler was to point out that very good scaling comes at a price, don't expect miracles from £99 budget machines. |
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Well they have custom built engine for up-scaling std DVD to 1080p - you can buy blu-ray player (with vox-pop upscaling) cheaper = they wouldn't have a market at all if blu-ray player did as good a job of up scaling std DVD (as you suggest)
. As for a £99 player doing anything exceptional....
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They would because they rely on suckers who don't know what they are talking about
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Toshiba seem to be going downhill, they even started advertising an 'upscaling TV' - which of course ALL HDTV's already do, including all previous Tosh's.
About time they launched a Bluray player |
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Toshiba seem to be going downhill, they even started advertising an 'upscaling TV' - which of course ALL HDTV's already do, including all previous Tosh's.
but since all TV's up scale to their native res, then to extend your logic - there absolutely no use for any external device to do the same but of course everyone knows there is - because TV upscaler are sheet so it should come as no surprise that tosh (or any other TV manufacturer) design a TV with specific engine for up scaling isn't logic a wonderful thing . |
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