They had chosen something likely to get airplay? And perhaps something which was being released, or had been released, fairly recently. Fair enough to bemoan the state of modern music (if you're too lazy to look beyond what's on the radio) and even blame Cowell (if you're that stupid), but surely digging up a song from 92 isnt the best way to show your support for "real" music in 2009? What would have been wrong with championing a popular rock/metal song from this year?
Would the RATM campaign have been more succesful if...
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Originally Posted by malchick:
“They had chosen something likely to get airplay? And perhaps something which was being released, or had been released, fairly recently. Fair enough to bemoan the state of modern music (if you're too lazy to look beyond what's on the radio) and even blame Cowell (if you're that stupid), but surely digging up a song from 92 isnt the best way to show your support for "real" music in 2009? What would have been wrong with championing a popular rock/metal song from this year?”
“They had chosen something likely to get airplay? And perhaps something which was being released, or had been released, fairly recently. Fair enough to bemoan the state of modern music (if you're too lazy to look beyond what's on the radio) and even blame Cowell (if you're that stupid), but surely digging up a song from 92 isnt the best way to show your support for "real" music in 2009? What would have been wrong with championing a popular rock/metal song from this year?”
I totally agree. Colin Murray and Radio1 got Malcom Middleton's We're All Going To Die, to number 14 a few years back. I was thinking Plan B's End Credits would have been a good one for this year. Will be looking at what's gonna be out December next year to start the campaign in November
I dont see why they just dont go for the current number one and tr yo to keep it there/ Same multi buying to stop X factor but youd also get lots of the x factor people accidentally getting it too.
Because it's more of an achievement for people power to take a song that otherwise would have had no chance.
its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.
Originally Posted by neon tiger:
“Because it's more of an achievement for people power to take a song that otherwise would have had no chance.”
“Because it's more of an achievement for people power to take a song that otherwise would have had no chance.”
Why not a song by an underground band or something then? RATM are hardly the most subversive or least known band in the world.
its a song that is was very popular, and still very popular and theres a lot of the record buying public with dispoable income that didnt buy it the first time round.
Originally Posted by malchick:
“Why not a song by an underground band or something then? RATM are hardly the most subversive or least known band in the world.”
“Why not a song by an underground band or something then? RATM are hardly the most subversive or least known band in the world.”
I agree, but I think the choice was mainly for the lyrics.
I said this in another thread and I agree with you completely. It would have been much more likely to succeed if they had chosen a single that was out the same week and had CD copies in the stores instead of a song that can only be downloaded. People who weren't part of the campaign would have also bought the single in stores, possibly as many who had downloaded it, and by now it could be almost double the sales of the X Factor single. Instead they decided to choose a song that represents their opinions with its title and lyrics and the name of the band, and that could be what costs them the number one spot.
Originally Posted by neon tiger:
“I agree, but I think the choice was mainly for the lyrics.”
“I agree, but I think the choice was mainly for the lyrics.”
And especially the refrain "f**k you [Simon Cowell] I won't do what you tell me..."
Originally Posted by fugitive:
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
Quotes the Simpsons
Wont someone please think of the children
Originally Posted by littleknownfact:
“I said this in another thread and I agree with you completely. It would have been much more likely to succeed if they had chosen a single that was out the same week and had CD copies in the stores instead of a song that can only be downloaded. People who weren't part of the campaign would have also bought the single in stores, possibly as many who had downloaded it, and by now it could be almost double the sales of the X Factor single. Instead they decided to choose a song that represents their opinions with its title and lyrics and the name of the band, and that could be what costs them the number one spot.”
“I said this in another thread and I agree with you completely. It would have been much more likely to succeed if they had chosen a single that was out the same week and had CD copies in the stores instead of a song that can only be downloaded. People who weren't part of the campaign would have also bought the single in stores, possibly as many who had downloaded it, and by now it could be almost double the sales of the X Factor single. Instead they decided to choose a song that represents their opinions with its title and lyrics and the name of the band, and that could be what costs them the number one spot.”
I think because those buying the song so Cowell doesn't get to no1, also dislike much of the chart, so buying, say a lady gaga song, when they probably think she is almost as bad, would be defeating the point.
Yes, more likely to succeed, but then it'd just be lady gaga at no1 and that isn't nearly as radical is it?
Originally Posted by fugitive:
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
Pish. Since when has the christmas number one ever reflected "children and families". In fact I'm pretty sure that if there ever was a song that reflected "children and families" then it would be shi**e....But probably better than X factor.
'Mon the rage!!
Originally Posted by fugitive:
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
It's sad that a song which is basically a protest against police brutality and white supremacy is labeled 'disgusting' just because it contains a few swear words.
If it did get to no1 and was played on the radio, the swear words would be blocked out anyway, so what’s so disgusting?
There is a clean radio edit of 'Killing In The Name' and it's getting plenty of air play - probably more than the X Factor's winner's song.
I think the only flaw with the campaign is that they picked a song owned by Sony, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and conspiracy. A song from an independent label would have been better or at least from one of the other 3 majors. Don't think it matters that it might be a less commercial sound, in fact I think for the people most likely to get behind such a campaign this is one of the attractions.
Originally Posted by fezxenakis:
“I think the only flaw with the campaign is that they picked a song owned by Sony, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and conspiracy. A song from an independent label would have been better or at least from one of the other 3 majors. Don't think it matters that it might be a less commercial sound, in fact I think for the people most likely to get behind such a campaign this is one of the attractions.”
“I think the only flaw with the campaign is that they picked a song owned by Sony, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and conspiracy. A song from an independent label would have been better or at least from one of the other 3 majors. Don't think it matters that it might be a less commercial sound, in fact I think for the people most likely to get behind such a campaign this is one of the attractions.”
True. Would have been great if it had been something really obscure, or avant garde- imagine how much it'd make an artist like thats year to be plucked from the depths of obscurity to suddenly being chrismas no1
Having said that though, I don't think that would have worked so well. A lot of people have heard of RATM so as soon as it started. people knew what it was about- perhaps because they associate the band with revolution.
I haven't bought it personally because I don't care enough what is in the charts, but I do still see how it could be funny if it got to no1.
In regards to the thread title....
Erm it has yet to fail or succeed, the result being on Sunday.
Perhaps the title should read "could the RATM campaign be more succesful if..."
Erm it has yet to fail or succeed, the result being on Sunday.
Perhaps the title should read "could the RATM campaign be more succesful if..."
Grow up people, it's not going to get played on the radio, the song was obviously chosen because it was so hardcore, if you don't like it don't buy it, but lets be honest, outside of the top40 it's not going to get any airplay regardless if it gets number1 or not.
Some people, honestly.
Some people, honestly.
Originally Posted by fugitive:
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
“its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.”
Yeah, I'm far more comfortable listening to the under 10's singing along to previous Christmas No.1's such as 2 become 1 and Hallelujah. Much more appropriate for family time.
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I think because those buying the song so Cowell doesn't get to no1, also dislike much of the chart, so buying, say a lady gaga song, when they probably think she is almost as bad, would be defeating the point.
Yes, more likely to succeed, but then it'd just be lady gaga at no1 and that isn't nearly as radical is it?”
“I think because those buying the song so Cowell doesn't get to no1, also dislike much of the chart, so buying, say a lady gaga song, when they probably think she is almost as bad, would be defeating the point.
Yes, more likely to succeed, but then it'd just be lady gaga at no1 and that isn't nearly as radical is it?”
I understand, but there are singles released this week that wouldn't be considered in the same vein as any of the usual pop nonsense. Julian Lennon and James Scott Cook have a single out, Patrick Wolf has a single out, Laura Marling has a single out. None of these acts, in my opinion, are part of the usual bubblegum pop parade. Their singles are available in the shops, however, unlike RATM.
Originally Posted by John Loony:
“Grow up people, it's not going to get played on the radio, the song was obviously chosen because it was so hardcore, if you don't like it don't buy it, but lets be honest, outside of the top40 it's not going to get any airplay regardless if it gets number1 or not.
Some people, honestly.”
“Grow up people, it's not going to get played on the radio, the song was obviously chosen because it was so hardcore, if you don't like it don't buy it, but lets be honest, outside of the top40 it's not going to get any airplay regardless if it gets number1 or not.
Some people, honestly.”
I guess you've only been listening to Magic FM for the past few days then because I've heard it being played on half a dozen national radio stations.
Originally Posted by Spacedone:
“I guess you've only been listening to Magic FM for the past few days then because I've heard it being played on half a dozen national radio stations.”
“I guess you've only been listening to Magic FM for the past few days then because I've heard it being played on half a dozen national radio stations.”
Excellent, this is good news.
I notice Absolute Radio are now promoting the Rage single...
Christmas Number 1
Fed up of X Factor pop dominating the charts each Christmas?
In a bid to keep X Factor away from the top of the charts, we're backing the campaign to get Rage Against The Machine's track 'Killing In The Name' to number one this festive season.
Want to help? You can buy the MP3 through Amazon.co.uk for a mere 29p and from iTunes now.
http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/music...icle/3760.html
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