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Would the RATM campaign have been more succesful if...
They had chosen something likely to get airplay? And perhaps something which was being released, or had been released, fairly recently. Fair enough to bemoan the state of modern music (if you're too lazy to look beyond what's on the radio) and even blame Cowell (if you're that stupid), but surely digging up a song from 92 isnt the best way to show your support for "real" music in 2009? What would have been wrong with championing a popular rock/metal song from this year?
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They had chosen something likely to get airplay? And perhaps something which was being released, or had been released, fairly recently. Fair enough to bemoan the state of modern music (if you're too lazy to look beyond what's on the radio) and even blame Cowell (if you're that stupid), but surely digging up a song from 92 isnt the best way to show your support for "real" music in 2009? What would have been wrong with championing a popular rock/metal song from this year?
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I dont see why they just dont go for the current number one and tr yo to keep it there/ Same multi buying to stop X factor but youd also get lots of the x factor people accidentally getting it too.
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Because it's more of an achievement for people power to take a song that otherwise would have had no chance.
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its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.
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Because it's more of an achievement for people power to take a song that otherwise would have had no chance.
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its a song that is was very popular, and still very popular and theres a lot of the record buying public with dispoable income that didnt buy it the first time round.
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I don't think the song is playing much part in it anyway, tbh.
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Why not a song by an underground band or something then? RATM are hardly the most subversive or least known band in the world.
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I said this in another thread and I agree with you completely. It would have been much more likely to succeed if they had chosen a single that was out the same week and had CD copies in the stores instead of a song that can only be downloaded. People who weren't part of the campaign would have also bought the single in stores, possibly as many who had downloaded it, and by now it could be almost double the sales of the X Factor single. Instead they decided to choose a song that represents their opinions with its title and lyrics and the name of the band, and that could be what costs them the number one spot.
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I agree, but I think the choice was mainly for the lyrics.
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its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.
Wont someone please think of the children ![]()
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I said this in another thread and I agree with you completely. It would have been much more likely to succeed if they had chosen a single that was out the same week and had CD copies in the stores instead of a song that can only be downloaded. People who weren't part of the campaign would have also bought the single in stores, possibly as many who had downloaded it, and by now it could be almost double the sales of the X Factor single. Instead they decided to choose a song that represents their opinions with its title and lyrics and the name of the band, and that could be what costs them the number one spot.
Yes, more likely to succeed, but then it'd just be lady gaga at no1 and that isn't nearly as radical is it? |
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its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.
'Mon the rage!! |
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its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.
If it did get to no1 and was played on the radio, the swear words would be blocked out anyway, so what’s so disgusting? |
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There is a clean radio edit of 'Killing In The Name' and it's getting plenty of air play - probably more than the X Factor's winner's song.
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I think the only flaw with the campaign is that they picked a song owned by Sony, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and conspiracy. A song from an independent label would have been better or at least from one of the other 3 majors. Don't think it matters that it might be a less commercial sound, in fact I think for the people most likely to get behind such a campaign this is one of the attractions.
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I think everybody is taking this a bit too seriously lol. It's a bit of fun.
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I think the only flaw with the campaign is that they picked a song owned by Sony, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and conspiracy. A song from an independent label would have been better or at least from one of the other 3 majors. Don't think it matters that it might be a less commercial sound, in fact I think for the people most likely to get behind such a campaign this is one of the attractions.
![]() Having said that though, I don't think that would have worked so well. A lot of people have heard of RATM so as soon as it started. people knew what it was about- perhaps because they associate the band with revolution. I haven't bought it personally because I don't care enough what is in the charts, but I do still see how it could be funny if it got to no1. |
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In regards to the thread title....
Erm it has yet to fail or succeed, the result being on Sunday. Perhaps the title should read "could the RATM campaign be more succesful if..." |
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Grow up people, it's not going to get played on the radio, the song was obviously chosen because it was so hardcore, if you don't like it don't buy it, but lets be honest, outside of the top40 it's not going to get any airplay regardless if it gets number1 or not.
Some people, honestly. |
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its a disgusting choice of song, especially at Christmas- at time when Children and families should be given prominence.
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I think because those buying the song so Cowell doesn't get to no1, also dislike much of the chart, so buying, say a lady gaga song, when they probably think she is almost as bad, would be defeating the point.
Yes, more likely to succeed, but then it'd just be lady gaga at no1 and that isn't nearly as radical is it? |
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Grow up people, it's not going to get played on the radio, the song was obviously chosen because it was so hardcore, if you don't like it don't buy it, but lets be honest, outside of the top40 it's not going to get any airplay regardless if it gets number1 or not.
Some people, honestly. |
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I guess you've only been listening to Magic FM for the past few days then because I've heard it being played on half a dozen national radio stations.
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