Turning off my new LCD by the mains

Kargo · 16-12-2009, 20:55

Hey guys, Yesterday I bought a new 22" Hitachi LCD TV for my bedroom. It is fantastic, however it does not have an off switch only standby. Usually this wouldnt bother me much but whenever I put the TV into standby a high pitch noise starts which I don't seem to get with other LCD's in the house. Could it be maybe because the TV is new? The noise isn't very loud, Ibut the fact that the other TV's do not do it bothers me a bit.

I was just wondering whether it would be okay to turn the TV off from the mains every night? or would this damage the LCD TV and my Computer (as they are plugged in using an extension lead)

Also, is it normal for LCD's to make noises when in standby?

Thanks

dmp · 16-12-2009, 21:16

If it's making a noise on standbye I'd return it as faulty.
Dave

Chris Frost · 16-12-2009, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

Also, is it normal for LCD's to make noises when in standby?

What kind of noise?!

Is it...

Buzzzz

Hissss

or...

Wooooaaayyyy. We're going to kill you.

gomezz · 16-12-2009, 22:11

I seem to recall this was a common fault with Hitachis but it was a couple of years ago now. Best bet is take it back as faulty.

Kargo · 16-12-2009, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Frost

What kind of noise?!

Is it...

Buzzzz

Hissss

or...

Wooooaaayyyy. We're going to kill you.

haha!

Yeah its a buzzing noise, Ive googled Buzzing Noise LCD and it seems some people get the same problem but im not sure whether it means the TV is faulty? Its Hitachi which I considered to be a good brand. The noise doesnt occur when the TV is on, just when its in standby.

techsmedders · 16-12-2009, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

haha!

Yeah its a buzzing noise, Ive googled Buzzing Noise LCD and it seems some people get the same problem but im not sure whether it means the TV is faulty? Its Hitachi which I considered to be a good brand. The noise doesnt occur when the TV is on, just when its in standby.

Hitachi has not been a 'good brand' for years now. Im pretty sure its is just one of the Vestel/Alba clones

Andy Carlton · 17-12-2009, 02:37

I take it the next noise will be the sound of a hammer???

Get yourself a good quality CRT type...more reliable than branded clones. What people see in todays TV's I don't know.

RobinOfLoxley · 17-12-2009, 04:31

Don't be sarcy Andy. Since when was Hitachi not a decent brand?

Take it back Kargo, it is def faulty.

Nigel Goodwin · 17-12-2009, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley

Don't be sarcy Andy. Since when was Hitachi not a decent brand?

Not for decades now, it's mostly just rebadged cheap crap these days.

The set is question is almost certainly just a cheap Vestel, like any if the Supermarket rubbish.

Willie Wontie · 17-12-2009, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Carlton

Get yourself a good quality CRT type

There ain't no such thing as a good quality CRT. They stopped making them years ago. As you well know...

paulr2006 · 17-12-2009, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Carlton

I take it the next noise will be the sound of a hammer???

Get yourself a good quality CRT type...more reliable than branded clones. What people see in todays TV's I don't know.

I really can't make my mind up as to if you are serious, Trolling or have "Issues"

chrisjr · 17-12-2009, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

I was just wondering whether it would be okay to turn the TV off from the mains every night?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

or would this damage the LCD TV and my Computer (as they are plugged in using an extension lead)

The act of switching ON can potentially cause problems. it is not uncommon for electronic devices to very briefly consume a large wedge of current, AKA a switch on surge, which then settles down to the normal consumption. Switching off rarely has any consequences.

But something that is turned off is not going to fail for lack of electricity. More likely to fail because it is switched on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

Also, is it normal for LCD's to make noises when in standby?

No.

That does sound like a fault. So get it checked over. If it is a buzzing noise then there could be a component in the power supply about to give up on you Worse case is something is arcing inside (ie generating lots of little sparks) in the wrong circumstances that could be very dodgy.

Kargo · 17-12-2009, 16:44

Thanks for the replies guys. Looks like I'll be returning this one. This is the model incase anyone was wondering or looking at getting a new TV http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...&Submit=GO+%3E

I was thinking to replace it with this one, any thoughts? my price range is up to £250, not too fussed about it not having a DVD player as I will be buying a Blu Ray player after christmas.
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...BUSH+22+HD.htm

Thanks

chrisjr · 17-12-2009, 17:05

If it were my wallet I was emptying then I would go for either...

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5295669/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|14419512/c_2/3|15701169|Televisions|14419667/c_3/4|cat_14419667|14+inch+to+24+inch+LCD+TVs|14419670.htm

or

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5293654/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|14419512/c_2/3|15701169|Televisions|14419667/c_3/4|cat_14419667|14+inch+to+24+inch+LCD+TVs|14419670.htm

long before I even bothered to look at a Bush. Not so sure I'd got to Argos either but that's your choice.

Hmm Links work if you copy and paste into a browser but DS won't convert them to clickable ones for some reason.

Nigel Goodwin · 17-12-2009, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

Thanks for the replies guys. Looks like I'll be returning this one. This is the model incase anyone was wondering or looking at getting a new TV http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...&Submit=GO+%3E

I was thinking to replace it with this one, any thoughts? my price range is up to £250, not too fussed about it not having a DVD player as I will be buying a Blu Ray player after christmas.
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...BUSH+22+HD.htm

Bush is similar low quality to Hitachi - cheap TV's are that price because they are cheaply made, very often in the same factories, regardless of the badge on the front.

RobinOfLoxley · 17-12-2009, 19:23

OK Nigel, I did actually think that as I was posting. But clicked reply without Googling.

Regarding CRTs, we got a hand me down wide-screen Panasonic when friend upgraded to LCD. I think it is 4 or 5 years old.

It does seem/look dated. But the picture quality is superb. Better than most LCDs/.Plasmas.
Better than OLEDS? I dunno, I dont have one to compare in the house.

Of course Sony Trinitron screens were the old "Gold" standard weren't they?

Harlotqueen · 17-12-2009, 19:45

I think Hitachi are more into their Heavy Engineering rather then consumer goods these days

Andy Carlton · 18-12-2009, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley

Don't be sarcy Andy. Since when was Hitachi not a decent brand?

Take it back Kargo, it is def faulty.

Hitachi WAS a decent brand many moons ago (as many will agree) Many are forgetting the fact that the original hitachi went years ago and the make is now purely a label with it's electronics made by the likes of Matsui or similar.

Kargo · 18-12-2009, 00:35

Will box the TV up tomorrow, have everything except the white foam blocks which im sure they can live without. Unfortunetly the Samsung model is out of stock but they do have a couple of the LG 22 inch models, it lacks a built in dvd player and is £50 more but I'd rather pay that and ensure that I receive a better quality product by a better quality brand name.

Fingers crossed they just return it with no problems, Argos have been very picky in the past. Thanks for the replies guys

hardylane · 18-12-2009, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Carlton

I take it the next noise will be the sound of a hammer???

Get yourself a good quality CRT type...more reliable than branded clones. What people see in todays TV's I don't know.

You still bumping your gums about CRTS, Andy? Is some CRT company paying you?

It's still rubbish.

frasera · 18-12-2009, 02:10

its a hunk of junk, anything that whines like that when off needs to go back.

and yea the hitachis i've seen in stores look like rebadged junk, you gotta be careful with brands these days, sometimes they are just whored out or bought off defunct companies

Andy Carlton · 18-12-2009, 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardylane

You still bumping your gums about CRTS, Andy? Is some CRT company paying you?

It's still rubbish.

What is rubbish? you mean the new flat screen LCD TV's? - I totally agree!

So 10 years ago before LCD and plasma....you never had a CRT TV? (because they are rubbish?) so what DID you use? - would be interesting to know...?

So how many LCD or plasma will out last a CRT? 10+ years for a CRT...with 2-4 years (max) for LCD or plasma...

Next.... ?

RobinOfLoxley · 18-12-2009, 04:36

Neighbours are on third LCD in a couple of years. CRTs are big and heavy but they go on and on like Duracell Bunnies.

Keep it up Andy lol

frasera · 18-12-2009, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Carlton

What is rubbish? you mean the new flat screen LCD TV's? - I totally agree!

So 10 years ago before LCD and plasma....you never had a CRT TV? (because they are rubbish?) so what DID you use? - would be interesting to know...?

So how many LCD or plasma will out last a CRT? 10+ years for a CRT...with 2-4 years (max) for LCD or plasma...

Next.... ?

long lasting garbage is still garbage. crt is mature. buying dirt cheap bargain basement lcds comes with risks but generally they are pretty reliable. and considering the price keeps coming down and the screens keep getting better, harping on about crt is pretty lame these days.

paulr2006 · 18-12-2009, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley

Neighbours are on third LCD in a couple of years. CRTs are big and heavy but they go on and on like Duracell Bunnies.

Keep it up Andy lol

Your neighbours must be buying supermarket cheap crap then

16-12-2009, 20:55	#1
Kargo Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,238	Turning off my new LCD by the mains Hey guys, Yesterday I bought a new 22" Hitachi LCD TV for my bedroom. It is fantastic, however it does not have an off switch only standby. Usually this wouldnt bother me much but whenever I put the TV into standby a high pitch noise starts which I don't seem to get with other LCD's in the house. Could it be maybe because the TV is new? The noise isn't very loud, Ibut the fact that the other TV's do not do it bothers me a bit. I was just wondering whether it would be okay to turn the TV off from the mains every night? or would this damage the LCD TV and my Computer (as they are plugged in using an extension lead) Also, is it normal for LCD's to make noises when in standby? Thanks

17-12-2009, 17:05	#14
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	If it were my wallet I was emptying then I would go for either... http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5295669/c_1/1\|category_root\|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav\|14419512/c_2/3\|15701169\|Televisions\|14419667/c_3/4\|cat_14419667\|14+inch+to+24+inch+LCD+TVs\|14419670.htm or http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5293654/c_1/1\|category_root\|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav\|14419512/c_2/3\|15701169\|Televisions\|14419667/c_3/4\|cat_14419667\|14+inch+to+24+inch+LCD+TVs\|14419670.htm long before I even bothered to look at a Bush. Not so sure I'd got to Argos either but that's your choice. Hmm Links work if you copy and paste into a browser but DS won't convert them to clickable ones for some reason. Last edited by chrisjr : 17-12-2009 at 17:09. Reason: try to make links work

16-12-2009, 21:16	#2
dmp Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,755	If it's making a noise on standbye I'd return it as faulty. Dave

16-12-2009, 22:00	#3
Chris Frost Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 6,462	Quote: Originally Posted by Kargo Also, is it normal for LCD's to make noises when in standby? What kind of noise?! Is it... Buzzzz Hissss or... Wooooaaayyyy. We're going to kill you.

16-12-2009, 22:11	#4
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	I seem to recall this was a common fault with Hitachis but it was a couple of years ago now. Best bet is take it back as faulty.

16-12-2009, 22:11	#5
Kargo Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,238	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris Frost What kind of noise?! Is it... Buzzzz Hissss or... Wooooaaayyyy. We're going to kill you. haha! Yeah its a buzzing noise, Ive googled Buzzing Noise LCD and it seems some people get the same problem but im not sure whether it means the TV is faulty? Its Hitachi which I considered to be a good brand. The noise doesnt occur when the TV is on, just when its in standby.

16-12-2009, 23:39	#6
techsmedders Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chesterfield Posts: 422	Quote: Originally Posted by Kargo haha! Yeah its a buzzing noise, Ive googled Buzzing Noise LCD and it seems some people get the same problem but im not sure whether it means the TV is faulty? Its Hitachi which I considered to be a good brand. The noise doesnt occur when the TV is on, just when its in standby. Hitachi has not been a 'good brand' for years now. Im pretty sure its is just one of the Vestel/Alba clones

17-12-2009, 02:37	#7
Andy Carlton Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sutton Coldfield Posts: 3,879	I take it the next noise will be the sound of a hammer??? Get yourself a good quality CRT type...more reliable than branded clones. What people see in todays TV's I don't know.

17-12-2009, 04:31	#8
RobinOfLoxley Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 12,873	Don't be sarcy Andy. Since when was Hitachi not a decent brand? Take it back Kargo, it is def faulty.

17-12-2009, 09:16	#9
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley Don't be sarcy Andy. Since when was Hitachi not a decent brand? Not for decades now, it's mostly just rebadged cheap crap these days. The set is question is almost certainly just a cheap Vestel, like any if the Supermarket rubbish.

17-12-2009, 09:30	#10
Willie Wontie Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,847	Quote: Originally Posted by Andy Carlton Get yourself a good quality CRT type There ain't no such thing as a good quality CRT. They stopped making them years ago. As you well know...

17-12-2009, 10:02	#11
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by Andy Carlton I take it the next noise will be the sound of a hammer??? Get yourself a good quality CRT type...more reliable than branded clones. What people see in todays TV's I don't know. I really can't make my mind up as to if you are serious, Trolling or have "Issues"

17-12-2009, 11:47	#12
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by Kargo I was just wondering whether it would be okay to turn the TV off from the mains every night? Yes Quote: Originally Posted by Kargo or would this damage the LCD TV and my Computer (as they are plugged in using an extension lead) The act of switching ON can potentially cause problems. it is not uncommon for electronic devices to very briefly consume a large wedge of current, AKA a switch on surge, which then settles down to the normal consumption. Switching off rarely has any consequences. But something that is turned off is not going to fail for lack of electricity. More likely to fail because it is switched on. Quote: Originally Posted by Kargo Also, is it normal for LCD's to make noises when in standby? No. That does sound like a fault. So get it checked over. If it is a buzzing noise then there could be a component in the power supply about to give up on you Worse case is something is arcing inside (ie generating lots of little sparks) in the wrong circumstances that could be very dodgy.

17-12-2009, 16:44	#13
Kargo Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,238	Thanks for the replies guys. Looks like I'll be returning this one. This is the model incase anyone was wondering or looking at getting a new TV http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...&Submit=GO+%3E I was thinking to replace it with this one, any thoughts? my price range is up to £250, not too fussed about it not having a DVD player as I will be buying a Blu Ray player after christmas. http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...BUSH+22+HD.htm Thanks

17-12-2009, 17:20	#15
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Kargo Thanks for the replies guys. Looks like I'll be returning this one. This is the model incase anyone was wondering or looking at getting a new TV http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...&Submit=GO+%3E I was thinking to replace it with this one, any thoughts? my price range is up to £250, not too fussed about it not having a DVD player as I will be buying a Blu Ray player after christmas. http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...BUSH+22+HD.htm Bush is similar low quality to Hitachi - cheap TV's are that price because they are cheaply made, very often in the same factories, regardless of the badge on the front.

17-12-2009, 19:23	#16
RobinOfLoxley Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 12,873	OK Nigel, I did actually think that as I was posting. But clicked reply without Googling. Regarding CRTs, we got a hand me down wide-screen Panasonic when friend upgraded to LCD. I think it is 4 or 5 years old. It does seem/look dated. But the picture quality is superb. Better than most LCDs/.Plasmas. Better than OLEDS? I dunno, I dont have one to compare in the house. Of course Sony Trinitron screens were the old "Gold" standard weren't they?

17-12-2009, 19:45	#17
Harlotqueen Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,579	I think Hitachi are more into their Heavy Engineering rather then consumer goods these days

18-12-2009, 00:04	#18
Andy Carlton Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sutton Coldfield Posts: 3,879	Quote: Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley Don't be sarcy Andy. Since when was Hitachi not a decent brand? Take it back Kargo, it is def faulty. Hitachi WAS a decent brand many moons ago (as many will agree) Many are forgetting the fact that the original hitachi went years ago and the make is now purely a label with it's electronics made by the likes of Matsui or similar.

18-12-2009, 00:35	#19
Kargo Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,238	Will box the TV up tomorrow, have everything except the white foam blocks which im sure they can live without. Unfortunetly the Samsung model is out of stock but they do have a couple of the LG 22 inch models, it lacks a built in dvd player and is £50 more but I'd rather pay that and ensure that I receive a better quality product by a better quality brand name. Fingers crossed they just return it with no problems, Argos have been very picky in the past. Thanks for the replies guys

18-12-2009, 00:39	#20
hardylane Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,945	Quote: Originally Posted by Andy Carlton I take it the next noise will be the sound of a hammer??? Get yourself a good quality CRT type...more reliable than branded clones. What people see in todays TV's I don't know. You still bumping your gums about CRTS, Andy? Is some CRT company paying you? It's still rubbish.

18-12-2009, 02:10	#21
frasera Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,063	its a hunk of junk, anything that whines like that when off needs to go back. and yea the hitachis i've seen in stores look like rebadged junk, you gotta be careful with brands these days, sometimes they are just whored out or bought off defunct companies

18-12-2009, 02:45	#22
Andy Carlton Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sutton Coldfield Posts: 3,879	Quote: Originally Posted by hardylane You still bumping your gums about CRTS, Andy? Is some CRT company paying you? It's still rubbish. What is rubbish? you mean the new flat screen LCD TV's? - I totally agree! So 10 years ago before LCD and plasma....you never had a CRT TV? (because they are rubbish?) so what DID you use? - would be interesting to know...? So how many LCD or plasma will out last a CRT? 10+ years for a CRT...with 2-4 years (max) for LCD or plasma... Next.... ?

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18-12-2009, 04:36	#23
RobinOfLoxley Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Devon Posts: 12,873	Neighbours are on third LCD in a couple of years. CRTs are big and heavy but they go on and on like Duracell Bunnies. Keep it up Andy lol

18-12-2009, 07:20	#24
frasera Inactive Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,063	Quote: Originally Posted by Andy Carlton What is rubbish? you mean the new flat screen LCD TV's? - I totally agree! So 10 years ago before LCD and plasma....you never had a CRT TV? (because they are rubbish?) so what DID you use? - would be interesting to know...? So how many LCD or plasma will out last a CRT? 10+ years for a CRT...with 2-4 years (max) for LCD or plasma... Next.... ? long lasting garbage is still garbage. crt is mature. buying dirt cheap bargain basement lcds comes with risks but generally they are pretty reliable. and considering the price keeps coming down and the screens keep getting better, harping on about crt is pretty lame these days.

18-12-2009, 09:28	#25
paulr2006 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 1,098	Quote: Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley Neighbours are on third LCD in a couple of years. CRTs are big and heavy but they go on and on like Duracell Bunnies. Keep it up Andy lol Your neighbours must be buying supermarket cheap crap then