the sheep have lost there way, mr nice guy joe isn't going to have a #1. So i'll be the first to say bye bye jo see you next year promoting your next single on the x factor.
Joe catching up Rage
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Come on RATM.
I like Joe, seems like a really nice guy, but the song he was given is pure sh*t and I still hold the belief that artists ought to work to deserve to get a #1, not get it handed to them on a silver platter...
I like Joe, seems like a really nice guy, but the song he was given is pure sh*t and I still hold the belief that artists ought to work to deserve to get a #1, not get it handed to them on a silver platter...
Originally Posted by Mikeandhersonq:
“Reality TV has been around for years, especially back in the 80s and 90s - I remember tons of singing contests: most of them went on to make the music industry of the late 90s and early 00s. Especially in the USA: if it weren't for those talent shows the USA wouldn't have the industry it has today.”
“Reality TV has been around for years, especially back in the 80s and 90s - I remember tons of singing contests: most of them went on to make the music industry of the late 90s and early 00s. Especially in the USA: if it weren't for those talent shows the USA wouldn't have the industry it has today.”
I didn't say that it was anything new, just that it is, and has been a corrosive influence on the music industry in general from a good taste point of view, if not from a financial point of view.
Reality TV music talent shows, and the X-Factor specifically, make their money from exploitation of contestants and viewers. The love of music is not what Simon Cowell is in the business for.
Originally Posted by kutox:
“RATM - 253,000
Joe - 216,000
Rage's lead has been cut from 65,000 to 37,000 since Joe's CD was released yesterday.”
“RATM - 253,000
Joe - 216,000
Rage's lead has been cut from 65,000 to 37,000 since Joe's CD was released yesterday.”
Yes, I'm seriously hoping that Joe makes it to number one for Christmas.
Bleugh. Let's get some real music to #1........how is the winner of a reality tv competition more worthy of a number one than a long-running group who write their own songs and don't rely on a huge Cowell-media-machine for their success?
I'm a fan of the Blessington Carriage pub in Derby, and the owner made an interesting point. He seems to think that the X Factor is damaging, not just because it's safe, inoffensive pap, but because it's making people stay in on a Saturday night and not going pubs, gigs, and the cinema. Ok, so he does have a vested interest, but it is something to think about.
I've bought RATM, but then I do like the song.
I've bought RATM, but then I do like the song.
Originally Posted by Alex91:
“Bleugh. Let's get some real music to #1........how is the winner of a reality tv competition more worthy of a number one than a long-running group who write their own songs and don't rely on a huge Cowell-media-machine for their success?”
“Bleugh. Let's get some real music to #1........how is the winner of a reality tv competition more worthy of a number one than a long-running group who write their own songs and don't rely on a huge Cowell-media-machine for their success?”
Why should these campaigners get their way ? They've thrown their rattle out of their pram.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Why should these campaigners get their way ? They've thrown their rattle out of their pram.”
“Why should these campaigners get their way ? They've thrown their rattle out of their pram.”
Why should the x factor winner always get their own way and get to number 1?
It's time for a change.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Why should these campaigners get their way ? They've thrown their rattle out of their pram.”
“Why should these campaigners get their way ? They've thrown their rattle out of their pram.”
I can think of no reason why they shouldn't get their way.
I see no reason why Joe fans shouldn't get their way either.
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I can think of no reason why they shouldn't get their way.
I see no reason why Joe fans shouldn't get their way either.”
“I can think of no reason why they shouldn't get their way.
I see no reason why Joe fans shouldn't get their way either.”
Hence the whole point of the campaign no doubt. Simon Cowell spectacularly missed the point last week when he talked about how bad the xmas No1s had been in the past so therefore couldn't see the point in the RATM campaign.
The reason people in this country loved the xmas No1 race was not the quality of the songs but the race itself and having a wee bet on who might win. Bob the Builder v Eminem where the heck in the world would you see that but Britain. It's mad, it's eccentric but it's British and we all enjoyed it.
The Hype surrounding the X Factor guarantees a No 1 so why out of a possible 52 weeks of the year pick this one and rob people of a tradition we've had for decades.
If the RATM campaign doesn't win this year then it'll be back next year and the year after with another band and track.
Originally Posted by VoodooChic:
“I've just bought Rage...hate the song and will never play it - but the smugness disappearing from Cowell's face is worth the 65p”
“I've just bought Rage...hate the song and will never play it - but the smugness disappearing from Cowell's face is worth the 65p”
I hear you mate! Remember. It goes to charity, so buy £100's worth LOL.
I've listened to both songs now about half a dozen times ... and the RATM song, Killing In The Name is bloody brilliant. Whereas Simon's song (and lets face it ... its Simon's song ... not Joe's - OK via Miley) is pure, unadulterated crap!
About to download RATM now.
Sheila
About to download RATM now.
Sheila
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“I've listened to both songs now about half a dozen times ... and the RATM song, Killing In The Name is bloody brilliant. Whereas Simon's song (and lets face it ... its Simon's song ... not Joe's - OK via Miley) is pure, unadulterated crap!
About to download RATM now.
Sheila”
“I've listened to both songs now about half a dozen times ... and the RATM song, Killing In The Name is bloody brilliant. Whereas Simon's song (and lets face it ... its Simon's song ... not Joe's - OK via Miley) is pure, unadulterated crap!
About to download RATM now.
Sheila”
Treat yourself to the album you will not regret it.
I bought the single on Monday (Rage) I have owned it for years but I bought a live version which counts towards the chart sales. I think I might buy it again tomorrow, just to make sure
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“I am going out tomorrow morning (if it isn't snowing) to buy a physical copy of The Climb.”
“I am going out tomorrow morning (if it isn't snowing) to buy a physical copy of The Climb.”
How can this Joe Elderberry fail when he inspires such fanatical loyalty amongst his followers?
Some of the proceeds from Killing In the Name by Rage Against the Machine will be going to the charity Shelter. All proceeds from that horrid song by the X Factor guy will be going to Simon Cowell .. Let your conscience decide!
Originally Posted by swankyjohn:
“Treat yourself to the album you will not regret it.
I bought the single on Monday (Rage) I have owned it for years but I bought a live version which counts towards the chart sales. I think I might buy it again tomorrow, just to make sure”
“Treat yourself to the album you will not regret it.
I bought the single on Monday (Rage) I have owned it for years but I bought a live version which counts towards the chart sales. I think I might buy it again tomorrow, just to make sure”
I've just posted on another forum (BJ) that I'll probably buy the album anyway.
I just so, so want this campaign to succeed on another level though.
Sheila
Originally Posted by Hotelier:
“RATM are now outselling Joe by 3 to 1 on Itunes, they have a massive lead. Even spectacular CD sales by Joe might not be enough to stop them if this keeps up.”
“RATM are now outselling Joe by 3 to 1 on Itunes, they have a massive lead. Even spectacular CD sales by Joe might not be enough to stop them if this keeps up.”
3 to 1 isn't really enough, they need 4 to 1 for 3 solid days to have a good chance of beating him. If they did much less than 75K sales on Thursday they are finished (they'll have lost momentum for 2 successive days).
Unless... the snow keeps a lot of potential Joe buyers at home on Friday.
Originally Posted by Jumbo_Holden:
“Which is WHY we are all downloading RAGE as a protest.!”
“Which is WHY we are all downloading RAGE as a protest.!
”
Which is why SOME are downloading Rage in protest.
Just downloaded RATM ten times. Always been a good track.
Just a thought, in 15 years, will people be buying Joe's records? the answer is obvious.
Just a thought, in 15 years, will people be buying Joe's records? the answer is obvious.
Originally Posted by living proof:
“Just downloaded RATM ten times. Always been a good track.
Just a thought, in 15 years, will people be buying Joe's records? the answer is obvious.”
“Just downloaded RATM ten times. Always been a good track.
Just a thought, in 15 years, will people be buying Joe's records? the answer is obvious.”
I hope you used different sites and different ip addresses, as otherwise it won't be counted
Originally Posted by robot1000:
“I hope you used different sites and different ip addresses, as otherwise it won't be counted”
“I hope you used different sites and different ip addresses, as otherwise it won't be counted”
Not just about number 1 - money to charity also.
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