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Old 18-12-2009, 18:47
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After the second delay of their album Sweet 7, IMO I have a feeling the Sugababes don't have alot left in them, Amelle is defintley going to leave at some point in the near future, her mental breakdown was enough to prove that and I don't like Jade, the whole band is just very robotic, I loved the album Angels With Dirty Faces up until Change. That was when they were at their best I think, Get Sexy is horrific and About A Girl is just another song if you get what I mean

I don't think they've got much left in 'em tbh...
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Old 18-12-2009, 18:51
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I think people need to realise Sugababes are now a brand. So as a result will be around as long as they continue to sell music and overall About A Girl hasn't done too bad sales wise. It has sold more than The Saturday's album (if that 36k figure is right) put it that way!

So that sort of puts it into clear context.

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Oh and while I have the chance I want to rub it in. A member of this site said About A Girl would never sell 100k.

Well it is on 91,460 right now and should easy go over 100k within the next few weeks.

So again their future is ALOT brighter than some want you to think...
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Old 18-12-2009, 19:33
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I don't see how they are a brand though. They do music

A brand is someone like Paris Hilton who does tv, music, perfumes, books and everything else you could possible think of
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Old 18-12-2009, 19:37
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A lot of people on these boards seem to be sounding the death knell for the band, but I think that this is the first time in YEARS that their last two single releases have hit the Top 10 and sold well despite competition from X Factor and the likes of Jay-Z and Rihanna.

As for newer bands, the Saturdays' album hasn't exactly set the charts on fire although Ego might change things and newer girl bands like Mini Viva and Girls Can't Catch haven't exactly dented the Sugababes' success.
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Old 18-12-2009, 19:43
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i loved keisha in the sugababes but im getting to like the lin up

version 1.0 and version 2.0 my favourite line up

i think they will do well but some of their pst songs are classic e.g about you know,overload,freak like me

i dont see any newer songs living up to that
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Old 18-12-2009, 19:51
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I don't rate the Sugababes new stuff. It sounds very American generic stuff as opposed to how fresh they were when they came up with Overload and their eventual breakthrough, Freak Like Me. Both are classics in their own right but after About You Now, I think there's nothing much left for them to give.

Angels with Dirty Faces, Three, Taller in More Ways and Change were all brilliant offerings but I think Sweet 7 won't be anything new. Besides, I liked version 1 and 2, but I did like some of v.3's stuff. However, Keisha was my favourite and I don't like the way Jade Ewan has come in and started mouthing off about someone who has been in the industry years before her. I mean, that stuff she said about being scared of Keisha? That's the way to win people over isn't it. And I echo the sentiments of some other posters, Heidi doesn't have that long to go. Hopefully neither does the brand. It lost out when Mutya left, imo its dead now.
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Old 18-12-2009, 20:00
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As a fan since the beginning - I lost interest when they released Girls and it's parent album Catfights & Spotlights. I thought the single was a shameless cash in the advert, the album was a bandwagon jumping 60's throwback...and it was awful.
Never really liked Amelle but stayed a fan because Keisha was still there - liked her voice and she was an original member, but when she was kicked out it the final straw - SB became a brand of revolving door members.
I have finished with them, and hope other fans do the same as they are now a poor imitation of the band they were 9 years ago. A shame. They made some great music
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Old 18-12-2009, 20:14
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Sugababes 2 were and still are the best line-up, AWDF and Three were terrific album with great untempo songs that weren't all Xenomania, and some of the Noughties best ballads.

I didn't like SB 3 as much, Change had some great singles but I felt Amelle wasn't comfortable doing the whole kind of mature thing Mutya did. CF&SL was just watered down 60s stuff, and then the generic R&B was definately INSANELY CATCHY but it did seem like they were in it for the money, espescially when you watch SB3 doing Get Sexy.

Now they may be doing the stuff the recorded with Keisha, but the girls are definately working the sexy thing and why not? They've made this album. they might as well change their look to suit it, and they just look like their having a laugh doing it. It definately comes across as 3 people having fun making music (like the original SB set out to do) and vocally they're just as good IMO recorded but a lot more bouncy live. Good on them I say, and maybe when they've finished with Sweet 7 they'll try something a little different once they've found their feet, since Sweet 7 so far does sort of smell of money making, though it does sound VERY catchy.
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Old 18-12-2009, 20:52
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Sugababes 2 is the best, i agree

I have always loved Keisha and I am still standing by her. I am sorry but if i was Jade, i would have said no. I couldn't walk around in the world knowing i replaced someone in such a cruel and secretive way of it being done.
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Old 18-12-2009, 21:22
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as long as they keep delivering good tunes, then they will survive! get sexy sound great in the club as well, a proper club banger, ppl go crazy 4 it!
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Old 18-12-2009, 21:23
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I think people need to realise Sugababes are now a brand. So as a result will be around as long as they continue to sell music and overall About A Girl hasn't done too bad sales wise. It has sold more than The Saturday's album (if that 36k figure is right) put it that way!

So that sort of puts it into clear context.

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Oh and while I have the chance I want to rub it in. A member of this site said About A Girl would never sell 100k.

Well it is on 91,460 right now and should easy go over 100k within the next few weeks.

So again their future is ALOT brighter than some want you to think...

I'm pleased it has sold that much, someone on this forum said it hadn't even reached 70,000!
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Old 18-12-2009, 21:27
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I'm pleased it has sold that much, someone on this forum said it hadn't even reached 70,000!
He was talking bull. The sales can be found on Buzzjack.
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Old 18-12-2009, 21:50
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He was talking bull. The sales can be found on Buzzjack.
Just looked it says 83,900!
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Old 19-12-2009, 08:43
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The record label has spent far too much money on Sweet 7 (initial recording sessions and now some new ones) for it to simply sit on the shelf without being released. The album will come out at some point, the Sugababes will promote it, but I think that will be it for them after that.
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Old 19-12-2009, 09:33
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Old 19-12-2009, 10:08
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The truth currently about them; is that they don't seem to be shifting many singles, which makes you think they will shift even less albums...as the tracks they have released so far haven't been album sellers imo!

This could all change, but they will need a Killer new single with Jade to do it! Otherwise they are in serious trouble!
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Old 19-12-2009, 10:19
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The truth currently about them; is that they don't seem to be shifting many singles, which makes you think they will shift even less albums...as the tracks they have released so far haven't been album sellers imo!

This could all change, but they will need a Killer new single with Jade to do it! Otherwise they are in serious trouble!
Is that not a bit dramatic?

Although the last song 'About a girl' didnt get the best chart position it seems they are happy with the sales and that will soon pass 100 000.
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Old 19-12-2009, 10:40
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its christmas....give them a break
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Old 19-12-2009, 11:03
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Is that not a bit dramatic?

Although the last song 'About a girl' didnt get the best chart position it seems they are happy with the sales and that will soon pass 100 000.
100,000 sales is not good by any stretch of the imagination! It would only be considered good if it was from an album which had already/nearly sold 1 million copies!

If a 'big' artist/band releases a song before an album and it doesnt reach sales of 300k, it is considered an industry flop no matter what position it reaches (nb a no.1 will lessen the blow but for no.1 not to manage these figures...shows a lack of longevity in the singles chart e.g. Pixie Lott and Tinchy Stryder ).

I said GS wouldn't sell 220k and was mocked...it currently stands at 160k (I think)...and won't make it there!

I haven't given AAG a prediction, but even I thought it was gonna do better SALES wise then GS, but it might struggle to topple it at this rate! Hopefully it will bag about 15,000 sales in the week after xmas, due to everyone getting mp3 player...that will help it alot!

I havent heard their next single but is it good enough to get people to buy over 300k copies?!.. so we will then know the album stands a chance! Otherwise, it will fall very fast...obv not Saturdays fast lol but still quickly! They have chosen a good period to release tho, it will only require about 30,000 copies that week to get no.1...March normally only has the Mother's favourites coming out like Ronan..and maybe Joe and they will be closer to Mother's Day
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Old 19-12-2009, 11:11
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Thanks.

They are releasing 'Wear my kiss' next but not in March in Feb before or around february.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Slv-wPsXv4

Album out in March I think.
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Old 19-12-2009, 16:12
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100,000 sales is not good by any stretch of the imagination! It would only be considered good if it was from an album which had already/nearly sold 1 million copies!

If a 'big' artist/band releases a song before an album and it doesnt reach sales of 300k, it is considered an industry flop no matter what position it reaches (nb a no.1 will lessen the blow but for no.1 not to manage these figures...shows a lack of longevity in the singles chart e.g. Pixie Lott and Tinchy Stryder ).
How terrible for the Sugababes, then. Only two of their seven lead singles have managed to go beyond 300K... that's five huge flops: "Overload", "Freak Like Me", "Hole In The Head", "Girls" and "Get Sexy".
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Old 19-12-2009, 16:32
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Are you being sarcastic? Freak like me and Hole in the head are easily two of their best songs and signiture hits. No way are they a flop.
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Old 19-12-2009, 17:25
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The record label has spent far too much money on Sweet 7 (initial recording sessions and now some new ones) for it to simply sit on the shelf without being released. The album will come out at some point, the Sugababes will promote it, but I think that will be it for them after that.
I have to agree with that, it very much has a feeling of 'end of the line' about it, however you try and look at it. They were already a bit of joke because of the revolving door membership, and it's even worse now. Especially since the only member from a truely successful period is Heidi, who is the definition of 'the other one' in life.

'Wear my Kiss' doesn't sound strong enough to launch the album (which is, in effect, what it will be doing)

Are they including 'Get Sexy' on the album? Seems a bit odd to really.
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Old 19-12-2009, 17:28
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Oh, and the other point is that I often got the impression that Keisha was very much the driving force in the Sugababes. She seemed to puch them forward and was very ambitious for the band.
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Old 19-12-2009, 17:40
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Are you being sarcastic? Freak like me and Hole in the head are easily two of their best songs and signiture hits. No way are they a flop.
Yes, I'm being sarcastic. The reasoning provided by delectable makes no sense when looking at the context of the Sugababes' singles. I'd classify "Freak Like Me" as their signature hit yet didn't sell 300K, which apparently is "bad" for a #1 single according to delectable.

Are they including 'Get Sexy' on the album? Seems a bit odd to really.
I see no reason why they wouldn't. It's a very Amelle/Heidi heavy track to begin and adding on Jade's vocals doesn't mean it shouldn't be included.

Oh, and the other point is that I often got the impression that Keisha was very much the driving force in the Sugababes. She seemed to puch them forward and was very ambitious for the band.
A lot of people say that, but I think it's more their management rather than individual members.
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