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You do realise Killing In The Name of is 17 years old, yeah? It's a classic on the rock scene and will not be forgotten for a long time.
Purrlease. This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb. |
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Classic? Dont make me laugh. Just like Bohemian Rhapsody, or Radar Love, Sweet Child Of Mine or Comfortably Numb?
Purrlease. This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb. I, and plenty of others, knew and heard Killing in the Name more than 5 years ago. |
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I'm glad that people power seems to have won the day this year. With previous Christmas number 1s, people have been buying the song not necessarily because it was any good, but simply because it was rammed down their throats with a relentless marketing campaign run by someone who couldn't really care what the song was as long as it achieves its aims. People were almost hypnotised into buying it. I'm glad that this year everyone showed that they won't be manipulated, damn it, and showed their individuality by not following the blind masses. Quote:
The song already IS a classic.
I, and plenty of others, knew and heard Killing in the Name more than 5 years ago.
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"You do realise Killing In The Name of is 17 years old, yeah? It's a classic on the rock scene and will not be forgotten for a long time."
Most people who are into their heavier music will know this song. Even my mum knew who RATM were before this campaign. |
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This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb.
I was among the crowd at T in the Park 2008 when around 40,000 people already seemed to know the words |
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But people already remembered it from years ago.
I was among the crowd at T in the Park 2008 when around 40,000 people already seemed to know the words |
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I dance to it most weekends in the clubs I go to up here. We have been playing it my house for years...my mum doesn't like it but she sure as hell knew what it was. In fact when I told her there was a campaign to get Rage against the Machine to number 1 she knew straight away which song it was. They also played Reading last year and that's the main reason why thousands of people went. So for anyone to say that no one will remember it in five years time is just silly. You may not like it but there is no denying it's a classic rock protest song that has meaning and will continue to be popular to many more generations.
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At least it's not some maudling piece of goddy garbage from Cliff Richard
![]() Should be Bohemian Rhapsody for the 3rd time on the back of that marvellous video
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i do NOT want my kids singing "f** you i wont do what you tell me at any time of year, especially Christmas Day"
I will NOT do want a small group of degenerates tell me! ![]() |
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This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb.
Killing In The Name was released in 1992 and unless you've been buried under a rock for the last eighteen years, you will know the lyrics. Taxi for Superwomble please. |
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Wow, I don't think you could have said anything else to make you appear any smaller.
Killing In The Name was released in 1992 and unless you've been buried under a rock for the last eighteen years, you will know the lyrics. Taxi for Superwomble please. |
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Classic? Dont make me laugh. Just like Bohemian Rhapsody, or Radar Love, Sweet Child Of Mine or Comfortably Numb?
Purrlease. This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb. |
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"You do realise Killing In The Name of is 17 years old, yeah? It's a classic on the rock scene and will not be forgotten for a long time."
Most people who are into their heavier music will know this song. Even my mum knew who RATM were before this campaign. ![]() Also RATM are part of Epic Records which is part of Sony records. Simon Cowell's record label is part of Sony however it's the like the drunk rich uncle who shows his head twice a year. Oh forgot to say that's Mr Degenerate to you
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I’d heard of Rage Against The Machine before, but I’ve still never heard the song. Or, if I have, I don’t remember it on the radio. (Back when I was a kid the only music I ever heard was music they played on the radio.) Quote:
'Offensive' is subjective.
I myself never speak to anyone in an insulting manner, but I get angry about the injustices of the world, and there are times when I almost want to start throwing tables over (I don’t by the way!). But I don’t resent people — I just resent all the greed and exploitation and hatred in the world (i.e. all the sin). There isn’t one person I don’t love. Quote:
So Simon Cowell owns Sony now?
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On that basis, 'There's No-one Quite Like Grandma' must be up there with the all-time greats. I and plenty of others knew and heard it 30 years ago.
![]() For some reason my dad loves it and seems to play it every Christmas! So clearly some people regard it as a classic! One thing’s for sure… no one who heard that song will ever be able to forget it. Quote:
At least it's not some maudling piece of goddy garbage from Cliff Richard
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While i sympathise with those who do not want cowell "ruining" the charts at Christmas time I am appalled at the choice of "song" to try defeat Joe to the top spot.
why couldnt theye choose a Christmas song - it would have served the same purpose and probably have been a more widely popular choice. i do NOT want my kids singing "f** you i wont do what you tell me at any time of year, especially Christmas Day" I will NOT do want a small group of degenerates tell me! ![]() Could you really get more ignorant? |
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Classic? Dont make me laugh. Just like Bohemian Rhapsody, or Radar Love, Sweet Child Of Mine or Comfortably Numb?
Purrlease. This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb. I and millions of rock fans over the world however most certainly consider it a hit, of course it won't be a hit to an armchair rock fan which is how you are presenting yourself by mentioning those songs. |
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heard MCE on radio this morning and DJ said it got to no. 1 on 28th dec '85
The dates refer to 'week ending', ie the Saturday of the week it got to number one. In the 80s, the chart was released on a Tuesday, so the actual day it topped the charts was four days earlier, Dec 24th, as already stated. |
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“Tubthumping” by Chumbawamba might have been a good choice. It’s your general edgy anti-oppression campaign song, only blended into a sort of mainstream-sounding light-hearted, feel-good party vibe with almost no profanities (apart from the obvious word “pissing” which could be censored).
It could be played on the radio no problems, would work well at Christmas parties, and even the kiddies would know it, thanks to Peter Kay! |
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Sorry. I wasnt paying that much attention. I didnt realise it charted at number 872 that year. My apologies.
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Sorry. I wasnt paying that much attention. I didnt realise it charted at number 872 that year. My apologies.
According to you Crazy Frog is a greater artist than The Beatles. Do you realise how ridiculous that makes you look? |
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Classic? Dont make me laugh. Just like Bohemian Rhapsody, or Radar Love, Sweet Child Of Mine or Comfortably Numb?
Purrlease. This song may be remembered for stopping X Factor, but that is all it will be remembered for. In five years nobody will know any of the lyrics, any more than those of The Climb. It also was a pioneer of the rock-rap genre of music, which it was pretty much the first album to be released in that genre. No RATM, no Limp Bizkit, no Korn, no Deftones, no Slipknot, no Linkin Park, no System of a Down, no Evanescence... Basically absolutely none of the nu metal scene. It is already a classic of its times, akin to Nrivana's output at the time. Its listed in many Top 100 lists... Don't talk saft. You make yourself look immature, and stupid. |
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All this picking on Superwomble is ridiculous! Superwomble was talking about mainstream attention. RATM might have been the best group ever, but until now most people in the UK won’t know their songs, or any of the words to them; while most people in the UK will probably know the chorus to one or two Robbie Williams songs. Superwomble may not agree with RATM being a Christmas number one, but he/she was only talking about the song’s place in (or absence from) the public conscience; not how talented the band are. Quote:
According to you Crazy Frog is a greater artist than The Beatles.
I’m willing to bet more British people had heard a Crazy Frog song than a RATM song (until lately). I hate Crazy Frog, but I’ve heard of it, and I’ve heard the song. On the other hand, I have a massive music collection from the 90s, yet I’ve still never heard a RATM song. I may even own one or two of their songs like “Bulls On Parade”, but I am not generally aware of their music. If radios don’t play it, and parents don’t play it, then kids simply don’t hear it, which is the case for many of us. I wholeheartedly agree with Superwomble that this song is never going to be a classic… in the eyes of the mainstream. Because it’s not a mainstream-friendly song. Likewise, something like “God Save The Queen” by the Sex Pistols is never going to be regarded as a classic by the mainstream. The mainstream doesn’t promote that kind of thing, so kids don’t hear it and ultimately no one cares about it. |
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All this picking on Superwomble is ridiculous!
Superwomble was talking about mainstream attention. RATM might have been the best group ever, but until now most people in the UK won’t know their songs, or any of the words to them; while most people in the UK will probably know the chorus to one or two Robbie Williams songs. Superwomble may not agree with RATM being a Christmas number one, but he/she was only talking about the song’s place in (or absence from) the public conscience; not how talented the band are. While the charts may not be a very accurate measure of talent, they most certainly are a measure of fame. I’m willing to bet more British people had heard a Crazy Frog song than a RATM song (until lately). I hate Crazy Frog, but I’ve heard of it, and I’ve heard the song. On the other hand, I have a massive music collection from the 90s, yet I’ve still never heard a RATM song. I may even own one or two of their songs like “Bulls On Parade”, but I am not generally aware of their music. If radios don’t play it, and parents don’t play it, then kids simply don’t hear it, which is the case for many of us. I wholeheartedly agree with Superwomble that this song is never going to be a classic… in the eyes of the mainstream. Because it’s not a mainstream-friendly song. Likewise, something like “God Save The Queen” by the Sex Pistols is never going to be regarded as a classic by the mainstream. The mainstream doesn’t promote that kind of thing, so kids don’t hear it and ultimately no one cares about it. ..except for the fact that millions do. |
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Superwomble may not agree with RATM being a Christmas number one, but he/she was only talking about the song’s place in (or absence from) the public conscience; not how talented the band are.
While the charts may not be a very accurate measure of talent, they most certainly are a measure of fame. I’m willing to bet more British people had heard a Crazy Frog song than a RATM song (until lately). I hate Crazy Frog, but I’ve heard of it, and I’ve heard the song. On the other hand, I have a massive music collection from the 90s, yet I’ve still never heard a RATM song. I may even own one or two of their songs like “Bulls On Parade”, but I am not generally aware of their music. If radios don’t play it, and parents don’t play it, then kids simply don’t hear it, which is the case for many of us. You seem to think we're arguing that RATM are as famous as Michael Jackson. Why? RATM are well known to any fan of rock music in the last two decades. Not for chart positions. If you actually believe you know about the genre don't come on here saying you've never heard of them. Their records clearly aren't aimed at everyone, so you need to have a word with yourself. You seem to think they're trying to appeal to the casual pop music fan who spends Saturday watching garbage like X-Factor, something which confuses music with entertainment and is only created to convert cash. RATM continue to sell because they influenced a genre of rap-rock. X-Factor garbage is shallow, an uninspired waste of space. People still listen to RATM today, more than can be said of the dross that's created on X-Factor - Steve Brookstein a prime example of the disposable prototypes that leave the winner. |
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My apologies, posted in wrong thread.
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