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Old 20-12-2009, 22:03
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What I find bizarre is that all these X Factor fans who voted last week, watched the show and squealed with delight when Joe McElderry won haven't all bought his song.
19 million watched, 10 million voted and only sales of 450k (ish)
They realised they had no money to download the single after they spent all of it on voting for Joe!

Actually we could file that under 'You know that U.K is still in recession when?.....'
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:04
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Cowell is no doubt happy as larry. This `battle' has simply served to court a mass of publicity, and all publicity is good publicity. RATM will do very well out of this, financially (I know they're donating the proceeds, but the vast majority of people had never heard of them until this month and other sales will inevitably flourish), but likewise Elderberry will also make a killing on the back of this.
Really?
What poll is that from?

Also, are we talking 'the vast majority of people' in the world? In the UK? In a certain demographic?
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:15
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Well done to RATM, finally number one, only took them 17 years to do it! Better late than never! Fantastic news, hope they come bak to the UK on tour. They are one of the best live acts I have seen.
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:16
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Is this the first number one where most of the buyers did not actually want the song?
Don't know but I think it's the first ever number one that was only available as a download.
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:23
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Cowell is no doubt happy as larry. This `battle' has simply served to court a mass of publicity, and all publicity is good publicity. RATM will do very well out of this, financially (I know they're donating the proceeds, but the vast majority of people had never heard of them until this month and other sales will inevitably flourish), but likewise Elderberry will also make a killing on the back of this.
Well that's a load of rubbish. The vast majority of people haven't heard of RATM? They used to be quite big, so I very much doubt your statement is true.
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:28
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I'm a RATM fan, but i'm not sure if i'm actually happy about this or not as i don't know which which i hate more; Facebook or X-Factor. I also get a slight feeling that they've both contributed to bastardising one of my favourite bands.
What's Facebook got to do with it? I don't like Facebook either, but the fact that this campaign was advertised on it doesn't bother me in the slightest. The internet is bound to play a role in uniting people around various causes these days, it's good to see it put to this kind of use once in a while.

As for bastardising RATM, again I disagree. They have endorsed the campaign, and I would too if I were them.

It seems to me that people are taking this way too seriously. It is not world-changing and it will hardly loosen Cowell's grip on the music industry. But it shows that there are a few people out there that still care about music; plus some money made for charity, no harm done really. That sweet little Xfactor boy's career won't be determined by this in any way either, and the whole thing has nothing to do with him personally.

The reason I am very positive about this is because I like it when people make some noise, show that they are alive and still care about things going on around them. I also like it when things out of the ordinary happen, when people have new ideas and try to make things happen outside the standard channels of the market. I just wish there were more campaigns like this, not limited to the charts, just protest and noise for all sorts of things; you know, people just being a little bit spontaneous and creative. It might not make the world a better place, but it certainly makes it more interesting.
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:37
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My Mum is 64, she hasn't bought a 'pop' record since Cliff was a nipper. And yet, every year since The X-Factor inflicted itself on our Saturdays, she's bought the winner's song.

She doesn't buy it because it's the best thing out there, she doesn't actually listen to anything else that MIGHT be out there. She buys it because because she's just spent weeks and weeks emotionally investing in some dimwits 'journey'. It's bought as a souveneir (sp?) from her time at Club Cowell.

And while there are millions of people doing that nothing else stood much of a chance, for years. No wonder most bands have given up the fight and gone home for the holidays! The fun of the Christmas No 1 had been sucked dry.

I downloaded RATM with great pleasure (always did like 'em), and tonight's events will have me chuckling long into the new year.

Merry Christmas!
Very good point. I don't see how anyone can believe that the vast majority of Xfactor single buyers are actually making a choice that has anything to do with music and 'liking the song'.
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:41
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Don't know but I think it's the first ever number one that was only available as a download.
Run by Leona got to No.1 and that was download only. Can't remember about other songs though.
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Old 20-12-2009, 22:57
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raaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

it really did it! and by a good margin in the end
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Old 20-12-2009, 23:07
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Delighted RATM beat Joe to number 1

I guess this means Rage will be performing on the Top Of the Pops christmas special
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Old 20-12-2009, 23:38
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I thought people bought X Factor winning songs because millions of teenagers are sucked into and obsessed with all the winners ?

Kind of like when the Jackson 5 dominated the 60s and 70s, when the Osmands dominated the 70s, when Bros dominated the 80s, when Take That dominated the 90s.

X factor finally lost it's grip this weekend, and may it long continue.
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Old 20-12-2009, 23:43
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Right, cause that's what everyone did wasn't it?
I downloaded it. I've already got the album from years ago but I love the song and 29p was well worth it to cause even a minor irritation to Simon Cowell.
Respect to you for admitting it
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Old 20-12-2009, 23:43
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And next week's number 1 will be...
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Old 20-12-2009, 23:43
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I havent heard them,,or the song..is it good lol
I'm a bit gutted to be honest. Not because I like Joe but I love RATM and have their album from the first time round. I have lots of memories associated with every song on it and I don't like the fact that it is now commercialised in the sense that people will know of them purely for this reason. Their albulm is fantastic and I loved the fact that I would play it and often no one would know who it was.

Disgruntled angry 'old' woman.
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Old 20-12-2009, 23:44
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This made me giggle on have your say on the BBC website:-

Who is or are "Rage against the Machine"? 60% of 20 million viewers gave a thumbs up for Joe, so I suspect that he isn't worried by an internet plot to spoil his moment, because he will be entertaining us for decades.

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Old 20-12-2009, 23:55
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Glad Simon and his show, like the Christmas turkey, got stuffed.
Pity the RATM track is so bad though.
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:06
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I'm a bit gutted to be honest. Not because I like Joe but I love RATM and have their album from the first time round. I have lots of memories associated with every song on it and I don't like the fact that it is now commercialised in the sense that people will know of them purely for this reason. Their albulm is fantastic and I loved the fact that I would play it and often no one would know who it was.

Disgruntled angry 'old' woman.
I disagree. Rage againt the machine were pretty big in the early 90s.. They were getting a lot of air play big time along with the likes of similar bands like Ugly Kid Joe and Faith No More back in 93.

You would be suprised how many people have re-bought the single just because it brings back old memorys like it did for me.
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:17
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Any tabloid journalists still looking for a nice headline, can I suggest the following free of charge...

"The Internet killed the reality star!"
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:35
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Some people must live under a rock having never heard of rage
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:36
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I disagree. Rage againt the machine were pretty big in the early 90s.. They were getting a lot of air play big time along with the likes of similar bands like Ugly Kid Joe and Faith No More back in 93.

You would be suprised how many people have re-bought the single just because it brings back old memorys like it did for me.
I rebrought it. I have the album but wanted to give my support. I haven't been interested in the charts for so long it was nice to get excited about it!
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:41
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Some people must live under a rock having never heard of rage
You mean X Factor fans?
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:43
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Well that's a load of rubbish. The vast majority of people haven't heard of RATM? They used to be quite big, so I very much doubt your statement is true.
I do find it baffling the way that hugely popular bands like RATM are treated as though they're obscure non-entities. When I was growing up I don't think there was a single person in my social circle who hadn't heard of RATM - not that everyone liked them, but they at least knew who they were. We're talking about a band that have sold millions of albums/singles in this country, played in front of massive audiences, have headlined some of our major festivals and have been listened to by huge numbers of people for almost two decades.
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:49
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Well in most media circuits, if it's not played on the radio it doesn't exist.. Although this campaign was directed at Simon Cowell & the Xfactor, It's also forced Radio 1 to play this song, Which they never ever would play in their mainstream shows.

Now i wonder if RATM's album will be played in Zane Lowe's Masterpieces next year..
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:49
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I like the fact its shaken things up a bit, and I like the track though it is possibly the mosy un christmassy christmas number one ever.

Hopefully next year an act not associated with X Factor gets Xmas Number 1 by releasing a brill track and everyone buying it because its great and doesnt need a campaign. I think RATM have made artists who havent performed or won X Factor less afraid of The Winners Single.
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Old 21-12-2009, 00:54
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When I first heard of this campaign at the beginning of December, I just brushed it off as another fruitless attempt at blocking the winning single. Never did I imagine, for one second, that it would actually be successful!

Can't say I like the song, but congrats to RATM for pulling it off and double congrats for finally proving that just because you win the x factor doesn't give you the "right" to a number 1 single.
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