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The Bandwagon is now Leaving the Building
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And what exactly will "change" from RATM getting number one? Nothing.
Alexandra will still get a number one with Broken Heels in 2 weeks
Alexandra will still get a number one with Broken Heels in 2 weeks
Originally Posted by teenagemartyr:
“I'd say that RATM was a much bigger "bandwagon" than Joe Mc.
It had a Facebook "campaign" FGS”
“I'd say that RATM was a much bigger "bandwagon" than Joe Mc.
It had a Facebook "campaign" FGS”
ahem and X factor Joe had heavy in store promotion and 20 million viewers.
He was a weak contender, if he had sold what X winners had sold before, he would have easily got it.
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“ahem and X factor Joe had heavy in store promotion and 20 million viewers.
He was a weak contender, if he had sold what X winners had sold before, he would have easily got it.”
“ahem and X factor Joe had heavy in store promotion and 20 million viewers.
He was a weak contender, if he had sold what X winners had sold before, he would have easily got it.”
and a facebook campaign of their own too.
Originally Posted by teenagemartyr:
“I'd say that RATM was a much bigger "bandwagon" than Joe Mc.
It had a Facebook "campaign" FGS”
“I'd say that RATM was a much bigger "bandwagon" than Joe Mc.
It had a Facebook "campaign" FGS”
Yes. I also think many in that campaign were just riding on the back of it so they could claim that they were part of this campaign that knocked Simon Cowell's winner off the Christmas number one. I think it's a bit pathetic to be honest, but, they won anyway.
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“ahem and X factor Joe had heavy in store promotion and 20 million viewers.
He was a weak contender, if he had sold what X winners had sold before, he would have easily got it.”
“ahem and X factor Joe had heavy in store promotion and 20 million viewers.
He was a weak contender, if he had sold what X winners had sold before, he would have easily got it.”
I do agree that Joe's song is pretty weak, but the RGTM single was as much a bandwagon as his single was!
Originally Posted by teenagemartyr:
“And what exactly will "change" from RATM getting number one? Nothing.
Alexandra will still get a number one with Broken Heels in 2 weeks”
“And what exactly will "change" from RATM getting number one? Nothing.
Alexandra will still get a number one with Broken Heels in 2 weeks”
Joe will probably get his number 1 next week too. Let's face it. All that was proven is that no song can become "Christmas" number 1 on it's own merits these days. There has to be a bandwagon of some sorts.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Yes. I also think many in that campaign were just riding on the back of it so they could claim that they were part of this campaign that knocked Simon Cowell's winner off the Christmas number one. I think it's a bit pathetic to be honest, but, they won anyway.”
“Yes. I also think many in that campaign were just riding on the back of it so they could claim that they were part of this campaign that knocked Simon Cowell's winner off the Christmas number one. I think it's a bit pathetic to be honest, but, they won anyway.”
What's pathetic about wanting to stop Cowell dictating the Christmas number one?
Anyway, I bet Joe sold more than his Hannah Montana cover would have sold if it wasn't for this campaign.
Originally Posted by toby4000:
“I do agree that Joe's song is pretty weak, but the RGTM single was as much a bandwagon as his single was!”
“I do agree that Joe's song is pretty weak, but the RGTM single was as much a bandwagon as his single was!”
Sorry, don't mean to be awkward but it's RATM.
as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain
Originally Posted by iain:
“as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain”
“as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain”
That wouldn't be allowed because it would invalidate the results. RATM would have been disallowed. More like X-factor believed they had a permanent fix on the number one spot...
Love RATM and Joe's cool too
Originally Posted by iain:
“as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain”
“as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain”
The charts have been fixed to a extent for a long time. I remember in the 90s, singles in their first week were always reduced by 99p. If that much is obvious, heaven knows what goes on behind the scenes at record labels!
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Sorry, don't mean to be awkward but it's RATM.”
“Sorry, don't mean to be awkward but it's RATM.”
It's not being awkward, I even thought it looked wrong when I typed it out! God knows why I couldn't see why!
Originally Posted by Baralai17:
“That wouldn't be allowed because it would invalidate the results. RATM would have been disallowed. More like X-factor believed they had a permanent fix on the number one spot...
Love RATM and Joe's cool too”
“That wouldn't be allowed because it would invalidate the results. RATM would have been disallowed. More like X-factor believed they had a permanent fix on the number one spot...
Love RATM and Joe's cool too
”
well, apparently there are ways and means, according to posters here.
i thought there was a notional limit of three, perhaps to allow for people buying presents etc.
its not, after all, typical for thousands of people to buy multiple copies of their own volition to boost a single sales.
Iain
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“The charts have been fixed to a extent for a long time. I remember in the 90s, singles in their first week were always reduced by 99p. If that much is obvious, heaven knows what goes on behind the scenes at record labels!”
“The charts have been fixed to a extent for a long time. I remember in the 90s, singles in their first week were always reduced by 99p. If that much is obvious, heaven knows what goes on behind the scenes at record labels!”
wasn't that an industry wide thing to counter declining singles' sales?
and its hardly fixed if that applied equally to all singles released.
Iain
Originally Posted by iain:
“wasn't that an industry wide thing to counter declining singles' sales?
and its hardly fixed if that applied equally to all singles released.
Iain”
“wasn't that an industry wide thing to counter declining singles' sales?
and its hardly fixed if that applied equally to all singles released.
Iain”
It may have applied to all first week singles, and then a increase in price. But it was sort of like a fix, because the act with the biggest fanbase would always end up winning!
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“It may have applied to all first week singles, and then a increase in price. But it was sort of like a fix, because the act with the biggest fanbase would always end up winning!”
“It may have applied to all first week singles, and then a increase in price. But it was sort of like a fix, because the act with the biggest fanbase would always end up winning!”
you what?
the chart was fixed because the act with the biggest fanbase would sell more copies?
um, wasn't that just down to them having the biggest fan base?
Iain
Originally Posted by iain:
“you what?
the chart was fixed because the act with the biggest fanbase would sell more copies?
um, wasn't that just down to them having the biggest fan base?
Iain”
“you what?
the chart was fixed because the act with the biggest fanbase would sell more copies?
um, wasn't that just down to them having the biggest fan base?
Iain
”
Yes, they would sell more copies of cheap singles. Sometimes with two CDs it would count as two.
Why do you think we get 1 week hits, and less 6 week hits nowadays?
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“Yes, they would sell more copies of cheap singles. Sometimes with two CDs it would count as two.
Why do you think we get 1 week hits, and less 6 week hits nowadays?”
“Yes, they would sell more copies of cheap singles. Sometimes with two CDs it would count as two.
Why do you think we get 1 week hits, and less 6 week hits nowadays?”
Do you mean when people buy different fomats eg CD1, CD2, Download etc?
Lots of singles are subject to a level of manipulation of the chart by fans and/or record labels. While it is monitored to some level by the chart company, it's pretty difficult to stop it, though it was particularly transparent this week!
Well done - but following the climate conference fiasco couldn't you all have united against something that actually matters?
Originally Posted by iain:
“
its not, after all, typical for thousands of people to buy multiple copies of their own volition to boost a single sales.
Iain”
“
its not, after all, typical for thousands of people to buy multiple copies of their own volition to boost a single sales.
Iain”
When have these "chart battles" ever been any different? I can remember quite vividly people buying multiple copies of "Country House" by Blur just to get it to number one, for instance.
Originally Posted by iain:
“as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain”
“as others have said, i think the whole RATM thing was the bandwagon thing.
and if encouraging people to buy multiple copies wasn't an attempt to fix the chart, i don't know what would be.
Iain”
You really like to play sanctimonious don't you?
Originally Posted by stateofgameplay:
“You really like to play sanctimonious don't you?”
“You really like to play sanctimonious don't you?
”
read as you like.
but you forgot to say which part you disagreed with...
Iain
Originally Posted by bunk_medal:
“When have these "chart battles" ever been any different? I can remember quite vividly people buying multiple copies of "Country House" by Blur just to get it to number one, for instance.”
“When have these "chart battles" ever been any different? I can remember quite vividly people buying multiple copies of "Country House" by Blur just to get it to number one, for instance.”
its hardly typical though, which is what i said, and i'd be amazed it it was on quite the same scale as we've had in the last week.
and at least country house had actually been released as a single, and blur fans weren't just buying it to spite oasis.
Iain
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