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Old 24-12-2009, 15:37
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All of a sudden my Toshiba LCD WS TV is not "stretching" the picture when broadcast is not widescreen ?

The input is mostly SKY (via RF) and other tv's receiving the same signal are ok so it must be the TV and yet it's been fine for yonks until ....... today.

When I switch to a non-WS picture it fleetingly is in WS then I get grey bands down each side.

Help ?
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Old 24-12-2009, 15:46
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It's doing exactly as it should - rejoice in the fact that it is presenting everything in the correct ratio.

If you do want to screw it up, by forcing it to distort 4:3 ratio pictures and stretch them out, you usually do this within picture set-up. Change it from Automatic (where the source will tell the picture what size it should be) to Wide.
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Old 24-12-2009, 16:07
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yeah my TV does this... its really annoying. you have to press the ratio button to get it ontl 16:9....

but the problem is, it doesnt remember the setting... and next time you switch it onto something filmed in 4:3, it automatically puts black bars down the side
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Old 24-12-2009, 16:33
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I've tried all the damn settings and crazy as it seems it was ok for a couple of years before today so I really don't know what's happening
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Old 24-12-2009, 18:26
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Does an RF signal carry any wide screen switching attribute? I suspect not. I have a 2nd (16:9) Panny 32" CRT TV fed from RF2 on my HD box and, with the TV set on 16:9, all programs are 'wide'.
I have tried setting to AUTO and switching to a channel that's 4:3 but couldnt get it to auto switch. Have you tried a scart connection?
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Old 24-12-2009, 19:20
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Does an RF signal carry any wide screen switching attribute? I suspect not. I have a 2nd (16:9) Panny 32" CRT TV fed from RF2 on my HD box and, with the TV set on 16:9, all programs are 'wide'.
I have tried setting to AUTO and switching to a channel that's 4:3 but couldnt get it to auto switch. Have you tried a scart connection?
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RF signals can carry 'line23 widescreen signalling' to control the aspect ratio but Sky boxes generally don't do this, instead relying on scart controlling aspect ratios.

A Sky box can do this technically as has been proven in the past but it's a feature that seems to be disabled annoyingly.

Some Freeview boxes do (I believe) carry the line23 signalling via RF however.
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Old 25-12-2009, 20:51
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In the Toshes set up menu you will find an auto wide option,which is probably set for auto,just change it to 16.9.
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Old 26-12-2009, 04:49
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Why on earth would you want to watch super fatty vision?

Models are already too thin for their own good. I'm sure they wouldn't be best pleased if they knew they had to loose another 30lbs just because you are annoyed by black bars.

If you want to fill the screen, use zoom, and chop heads and feet off completely, instead. It's the same thing, only different. Both are disgusting to my eyes.

Widescreen is for programmes made in widescreen. That's why auto is the only true way to watch. You know it makes sense.

No wonder poor Ms Feltz always comes in for such criticism.
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Old 26-12-2009, 10:00
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I read the problem as the TV not stretching out anamorphic (compressed) widescreen programmes.... so his TV was displaying a widescreen image compressed into a 4/3 aspect ratio as the TV wasn't getting the signal to stretch out the image to fill the whole width. (For those unsure, a standard definition widescreen broadcast is still transmitted in the same sized format as regular 4/3 programmes, they compress the wide image into a 4/3 screen ratio and the TV stretches it out for correct aspect)

However if he was indeed trying to get stretch-o-vision to make his 4/3 programmes stretch out at the edges then he should be glad he's watching in 4/3 'proper' mode.
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Old 26-12-2009, 16:08
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I read the problem as the TV not stretching out anamorphic (compressed) widescreen programmes.... so his TV was displaying a widescreen image compressed into a 4/3 aspect ratio as the TV wasn't getting the signal to stretch out the image to fill the whole width. (For those unsure, a standard definition widescreen broadcast is still transmitted in the same sized format as regular 4/3 programmes, they compress the wide image into a 4/3 screen ratio and the TV stretches it out for correct aspect)

However if he was indeed trying to get stretch-o-vision to make his 4/3 programmes stretch out at the edges then he should be glad he's watching in 4/3 'proper' mode.
mmmmmmmm
TV is not "stretching" the picture when broadcast is not widescreen ?
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Old 26-12-2009, 16:18
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I would have to ask why they're using the RF connection to the TV and not the superior SCART connection, which does carry the widescreen switching signal on Pin 8 of the scart from the Sky digibox.
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Old 26-12-2009, 16:43
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I would have to ask why they're using the RF connection to the TV and not the superior SCART connection, which does carry the widescreen switching signal on Pin 8 of the scart from the Sky digibox.
I'm guessing its an additional TV in the bedroom or something... and they're using the RF2 socket with a distribution amp to feed sky around the house ... its not really practical to install scart leads all around your house!
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Old 26-12-2009, 23:39
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yeah yeah, so I didn't read it properly
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