With Gallifrey having been healed, perhaps unwittingly by the master, will we find that Wilf had been a time lord and somehow got stuck on Earth?
So, exactly who is Wilf?
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Well it seems only humans are affected by the nightmares, so it certain leads you to believe he might not be human - obvious comparisons are that he's a timelord in hiding, with a fob watch or something similar containing his timelord consciousness. This would explain why wilf keeps finding the doctor, similar to how the doctor is able to track down the master, and the significance of the "war" that the female mentioned to him.
But I imagine RTD is just leading us on, and we'll be disappointed to find wilf was just being manipulated by some other force in the same way Donna was.
But I imagine RTD is just leading us on, and we'll be disappointed to find wilf was just being manipulated by some other force in the same way Donna was.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“With Gallifrey having been healed, perhaps unwittingly by the master, will we find that Wilf had been a time lord and somehow got stuck on Earth?
”
“With Gallifrey having been healed, perhaps unwittingly by the master, will we find that Wilf had been a time lord and somehow got stuck on Earth?
”
Or retired to Earth like Prof Chronotis in Shada, Cho-Je (K'anpo) in Planet Of The Spiders and Azmael (The Twin Dilema - that was Jaconda not Earth).
I was having the same thoughts.
They did make a point of mentioning that Donna's married name would be Temple-Noble (not Noble-Temple 
) but that could equally be a throwback to the Doctor-Donna. Or a red herring. 
) but that could equally be a throwback to the Doctor-Donna. Or a red herring.
I'd rather he wasn't a timelord because that would be so predictable.
How old is Wilf meant to be by the way?
Would he have been old enough to fight in World War II? If not which war was he meant to be in?
*confuzzled*
How old is Wilf meant to be by the way?
Would he have been old enough to fight in World War II? If not which war was he meant to be in?
*confuzzled*
From dialogue yesterday, it seems he was called up in 1945 but the war was over before he saw action. Bernard Cribbins is 81, so presumably Wilf is a similar age.
Originally Posted by Simi89:
“I'd rather he wasn't a timelord because that would be so predictable.
How old is Wilf meant to be by the way?
Would he have been old enough to fight in World War II? If not which war was he meant to be in?
*confuzzled*”
“I'd rather he wasn't a timelord because that would be so predictable.
How old is Wilf meant to be by the way?
Would he have been old enough to fight in World War II? If not which war was he meant to be in?
*confuzzled*”
If he was a Time Lord with a fob watch, it could easily be a reference to him fleeing the time war or something similar...
... though I'm probably reading too much into it and they were referring to WWII
He was affected by the nightmares in the series so he appears to be human. The only reason he was not affected by whatever the Master was doing was the fact he was shielded from it in that control chamber.
I think Wilf is human, all the evidence points to it, however, I do believe that he has a significance in the timeline though, which extends to more than just humanity.
I think Wilf is human, all the evidence points to it, however, I do believe that he has a significance in the timeline though, which extends to more than just humanity.
My Awful theory.
Perhaps Wilf is one of the Doctors regenerations.
Wilf never fired his gun, maybe a throwback to how the 10th doctor says he hates guns.
Perhaps this is also how the regeneration will take place.(In that one or both of them is shot and killed).
Timothy Dalton, mentioned the "knock four times" as being the beat of a time lords heart. Now if Wilf's heartbeat "knocks four times" it signifies him as a time lord.
If Wilf is the Doc's final regeneration, and Wilf remembers he's a timelord(through fob watch/Time Lords unmasking him), then he would have crossed his own timeline.
The doctor is never supposed to cross his own timeline, as otherwise terrible things will happen(The end of time itself).
So perhaps, as Doc 10 said on TEOTP1, he will completely die rather than regenerate, but in order for Matt Smith's Doc to come into play, Wilf regenerates .
Crazy thoughts and wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey comes itno play, and we're ready for series 5.
Although there is always the possibility, that Wilf is in fact The Master, exiled to past Earth by the Time Lords for his current actions.
It would explain the bad dreams. In "Utopia", Prof. Yana mentioned hearing a constant drumming/hearing words such as "regernation" and "time lord" for much of his life, not just after he recognized and saw his Fob Watch. < This could be construed as Yana's bad dreams.
It would also explain why Wilf is unaffected, as he cannot change into The Master, if he is The Master.
Its all too much to take,, bring on the final episode.
Perhaps Wilf is one of the Doctors regenerations.
Wilf never fired his gun, maybe a throwback to how the 10th doctor says he hates guns.
Perhaps this is also how the regeneration will take place.(In that one or both of them is shot and killed).
Timothy Dalton, mentioned the "knock four times" as being the beat of a time lords heart. Now if Wilf's heartbeat "knocks four times" it signifies him as a time lord.
If Wilf is the Doc's final regeneration, and Wilf remembers he's a timelord(through fob watch/Time Lords unmasking him), then he would have crossed his own timeline.
The doctor is never supposed to cross his own timeline, as otherwise terrible things will happen(The end of time itself).
So perhaps, as Doc 10 said on TEOTP1, he will completely die rather than regenerate, but in order for Matt Smith's Doc to come into play, Wilf regenerates
.Crazy thoughts and wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey comes itno play, and we're ready for series 5.
Although there is always the possibility, that Wilf is in fact The Master, exiled to past Earth by the Time Lords for his current actions.
It would explain the bad dreams. In "Utopia", Prof. Yana mentioned hearing a constant drumming/hearing words such as "regernation" and "time lord" for much of his life, not just after he recognized and saw his Fob Watch. < This could be construed as Yana's bad dreams.
It would also explain why Wilf is unaffected, as he cannot change into The Master, if he is The Master.
Its all too much to take,
, bring on the final episode.
could Wilf be the person he was in the 60's Dr. Who movie(but he's forgotten) ? or are those movies definitely not part of the canon ?
Originally Posted by kirkeastment:
“My Awful theory.
Perhaps Wilf is one of the Doctors regenerations.”
“My Awful theory.
Perhaps Wilf is one of the Doctors regenerations.”
In one of his recent inteviews when asked about the possibility of returning to the show in the furutre, Bernard Cribbins jokingly replied that he might 'regenerate and come back as Donna'.
At least I assume he was joking....
Originally Posted by andychurchill:
“Well it seems only humans are affected by the nightmares, so it certain leads you to believe he might not be human - obvious comparisons are that he's a timelord in hiding, with a fob watch or something similar containing his timelord consciousness. This would explain why wilf keeps finding the doctor, similar to how the doctor is able to track down the master, and the significance of the "war" that the female mentioned to him.
But I imagine RTD is just leading us on, and we'll be disappointed to find wilf was just being manipulated by some other force in the same way Donna was.”
“Well it seems only humans are affected by the nightmares, so it certain leads you to believe he might not be human - obvious comparisons are that he's a timelord in hiding, with a fob watch or something similar containing his timelord consciousness. This would explain why wilf keeps finding the doctor, similar to how the doctor is able to track down the master, and the significance of the "war" that the female mentioned to him.
But I imagine RTD is just leading us on, and we'll be disappointed to find wilf was just being manipulated by some other force in the same way Donna was.”
He didn't change because he was in that radiation shield...right ?
Originally Posted by Simi89:
“Yeah but why can he remember the dreams?
Something is not right.”
“Yeah but why can he remember the dreams?
Something is not right.”
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey :B
Originally Posted by Simi89:
“Yeah but why can he remember the dreams?
Something is not right.”
“Yeah but why can he remember the dreams?
Something is not right.”
Because only he stands at the heart of co-incidence. Whatever the hell that means.
Whatever happens I feel Wilf will be the lynchpin.
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“could Wilf be the person he was in the 60's Dr. Who movie(but he's forgotten) ? or are those movies definitely not part of the canon ?”
“could Wilf be the person he was in the 60's Dr. Who movie(but he's forgotten) ? or are those movies definitely not part of the canon ?”
Yes, the Doctor in those films wasn't even a Time Lord, he was just a human inventor who'd built the TARDIS in his garden. They're certainly not directly linked to the TV series.
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