in our house we have theories on Wilf.

1 He is a timelord in hiding which would make it easy for him
to find the doctor.

2 His chameleon thing is his telescope.

OR

1 He is a descendant of the doctor when he was John Smith
the teacher. The doctor lived a life,had chldren with Nurse
Joan

the kids have other ideas too but I can't remember! I await their theories being picked apart!

I,m sure that the badge means he was in the paratroop regiment, hope that helps.

Well Jessica Hynes is in the cast list I think - is she playing the same character and will it be a 'walk on' like

But he didn't live a life with her, let alone have children. We know this as a definite fact. If they were intimate during the short period he was John Smith, that would make Wilf 96 years old.

Please be gentle with the nit picking - it was my nine year old's idea and she wanted me to post so she could read it tomorrow!

Also I said descendant - so could be a grandchild.

An essential part of which would be his parents who never existed!

It's the badge of the Parachute Regiment in which Bernard served his National Service.

I doubt if Wilf deserted; his line "Don't say it like it's shameful" wouldn't make sense in that context.

And I first pointed out that he had no physical relationship with Redfurn, so the point is moot. I mentioned the age thing only to cover the (slight) possibility that there was a physical relationship that wasn't shown, although everything shown onscreen argues strongly against it.

Marilliona, tell your 9 year old she might be on to something. Remember the reference at the start of the episode to good Queen Bess? Well clearly the Doctor married her and did more from the hint he made, so what if SHE had a child - and Wilf's a descendant of that? (Would explain why Wilf is so pro-Royal!!)
Just a bit of fun - which is the great thing about Dr Who, it can go in so many different directions! Here's to Friday.

This thread is the best... All these theories and you just know that no one has worked out who he really is yet...

My two pennies worth is this... Wilf is the son of that lad from Human Nature who opened the fog watch briefly... Not only that but Wilf has read 'the book' from the same episode and that's why he is facinated by astronomy

I haven't seen that episode (Human Nature) in a while so I don't know if my idea stands the continuity test or if I'm all that accurate with my memory about the lad opening the watch...

Feel free to pick holes...

Really like this theory. Wraps up a story nicely, particularly since Tim (I think that was the boy's name) knew the Doc was a Time Lord, managed to survive both WWI and WWII so possibly fathered children and passed down his story of events. No reason to dismiss the idea of the Journal of Impossible Things being passed down too, although via Nurse Redfern..

See here:
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Journal...ossible_Things

I think the "brief" return of Sally Sparrow in part 2 may throw things around somewhat more.

This is a new one. Where did you get that info from?

I really can't see how she could fit into any part of the story at all

My tuppence - Wilf gets tricked into going back in time and shooting Doctor Eight (McCann cameo perhaps) before he ends the Time War. Which means the Time War didn't finish, then Eight regenerates into Smith. Tenant's Doctor never existed, (nor Ecclestone - hence the rumours of no Tenant regeneration scene), handily saving the Doctor two regenerations. Although 10.5 would still exist in some alternate reality if they ever wanted him to cameo...

Simple really.

The bus that Wilfs old fogies drove round in was called Sparrows Lane.

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Try this for size: yes, Wilf is a Time Lord in hiding, in hiding so long he has forgotten how he taught the Doctor as a child on Gallifrey, and later helped The Doctor to defeat the Eight-Legs of Metebelis Three...

That doesn't automatically make Donna part-Time-Lady - Wilf/K'anpo Rimpoche could have adopted her mother, or she could have adopted Donna.

Not bad, although I can't imagine Wilf of all people not accompanying his Dad to that Remembrance Day ceremony. Probably a bout of whatever they said made him miss Donna's wedding.

Wilf seems pretty keen at looking at the stars doesn't he. Maybe you might call him 'the watcher'??

I never did understand 'The Watcher' thing... how come only one regeneration had that character (Doc's 4 to 5).... and who was behind the Watcher being there? Was it the timelords? Maybe that's why Wilf see's the woman in the telly?... She's letting him know when he needs to take over the Docs body? Afterall RTD has hinted that we aren't going to have a normal regenerantion this time...? Mmmmm we wonders...

BTW I know this is my second theory on it... I'm trying to cover all bases ha ha

Thank you for all theories

Dunno if this has been mentioned already, but how does Wilf know that Time Lords can regenerate? He mentioned it before the Doctor in the café scene.

Did the Doctor or Donna explain it to him in the last series?

Wilf theories are intriguing ... anything to do with digging a hole, a hole in the ground?

Sparrow on the side of the bus is surely deliberate and has to be significant.

Also wondering when the other loose end will be tied in ... the daughter that the Doctor thought was dead ... ?

So hoping that the Time Lords are really back - used to love the way they tried to tell him off, water off a ducks back! I suppose there's a lot we don't know about a guy who has lived for 900-odd years and we've only known him for less than 50.

Then again, if the Time Lords are back, then the Daleks may reappear too ...

Unlikely, since Donna didn't know about regeneration when the Doctor started to regenerate in the Stolen Earth, and the next time she saw Wilf she didn't know anything about the Doctor.

It's possible Rose told him about it. It's safe to assume we didn't see every bit of their time together.

It's also possible he knows for some mysterious reason involving one of the theories people have about him.

Most likely though, it's just a scripting oversight that, if they'd noticed, could have been covered with, "That girl Rose, who used to travel with you, told me you could regenerate. Said you're were 'way more fit' than the last one."

Hmm brainstorming with the Mrs now the baby is in bed…

First time posting so please be gentle people

The drums are beating in the masters head, So we assume heart beat of the time lords or the time lords themselves are in the master. Leading to a somehow regeneration of the race via the master-race. Due to timey winemy im not sure if they will still disappear or not by the end of the program.

However the doctor’s regeneration? This is what we thought, we hope it is this

The doctor is somehow injured (obviously) and states that he must see everyone before he dies, and he doesn’t want to regenerate. (as we thought the master might have done last time) This means he travels around and does his thing with all the people (we have seen in leaked footage throughout the last six months in filming clips and pictures). However he says,……I sometimes think timelords live to long. (as seen in trailer for part 2) .

He makes the decision - in a change of plan he decides to save himself and take the chameleon arch option! Thus making himself unaware of time lords and becoming human

He lands on earth in 1945 thereabouts and hides the tardis, somewhere unobtrusive, the tardis gives him the name Wilfred Mott and he lives an ordinary life.

We then see doctor aging and living a normal life and go over various events that unfold.

Hmmm.
Eventually ……,

We cut back to Wilfred Mott on his deathbed in modern times, injured perhaps fatally in the Timewar. Unaware of his interaction with his previous self. For some reason he has the strange urge to look at the fob watch he has kept with him from the end of the second world war, (maybe…..) and he opens it as he dies!

Enter Matt Smith - all good!

Any thoughts ideas, problems ! Discuss……. Please xpand if you wish!

I rather like this, Newman - haven't bothered to analyse it to see if it holds up logically, but it's certainly a nice thought (I think that's probably why I don't want to check it for problems.

Now, being naughty, do you remember when the Master said about the Toclofane "If you knew what they were, Doctor, it would break your hearts."?

I think the same will happen if he realises he fathered Sylvia Noble!

Your theory would also nicely explain why Donna never felt even the slightest attraction for him and was so happy for him when he was reunited with Rose. Instinctively she recoiled from the thought of any involvement with her own grandfather.