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Old 29-12-2009, 18:16
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Do you think they work without Keisha?

I don't think they do. I like Jade, she has a nice voice, but they don't seem to have any chemistry what so ever.

I liked Sugababes 2.0, and 3.0 but 4.0 isn't as good, in my eyes...

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Old 29-12-2009, 20:31
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It seems that sales wise Sugababes 2.0 were the most successful.

Angels with dirty faces is their highest selling album
Push the button
Freak like me
Too lost in you

Are their best selling singles (inc About you know 3.0)


2.0 is also my best line up.
As for chemistry -I think currently the 4.0 lineup are probably getting on well. However that's likely to be because they are in Honeymoon phase and for their own individual reasons happy about how things are. Whether it lasts I dont know but there is cetainly a pressure to make sure it does and that this is the line up change.

For me I am not keen on 4.0 because of the manner in which it appears to have been carried out. I dont see them as the 'sugababes' because to me not only was Keisha the founding/heart and driving force of the group, she encapsulated the sugababe sound ...to me.

However many people whilst appreciating what a loss she is to the group are not that bothered for it to make a huge dent in the size of their fanbase.

They are now a brand and will be pro's at smilling for the cameras whatever is going on behind the scenes.
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Old 29-12-2009, 21:14
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OP you have an unhealthy obsession with slagging off the Sugababes, I am taking it as you being a big Girls Aloud fan which quite frankly is petty.

Either way this is your seventh thread on the subject. Lets hope these get removed like the last lot.
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Old 29-12-2009, 21:39
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OP you have an unhealthy obsession with slagging off the Sugababes, I am taking it as you being a big Girls Aloud fan which quite frankly is petty.

Either way this is your seventh thread on the subject. Lets hope these get removed like the last lot.
I like the Sugababes, 2.0 and 3.0 that is. I just don't feel there is chemistry between or it's the same with Sugababes 4.0, that's all.

This isn't my seventh thread, I've commented on other's threads, thank you very much.
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Old 29-12-2009, 21:43
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They'll be fine, they a lot happier and more comfortable now and they have accepted Jade in nicely

plus there music careers will be fine with signing to America and collaberating with Sean Kingston ect
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Old 29-12-2009, 22:22
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No. They are fake in so many ways. It isn't Sugababes anymore.

How can they say they don't want to talk about what happened, and now they decide to leak more and more info. each week.

Heidi, BYE.
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Old 29-12-2009, 22:29
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I think it will so as long as they have the 100% backing of the record company, the right marketing/promo/singles....I think they could do well....I very much doubt Keisha is as bitter about it as she was before (which I don't blame her for) because she got a sweet solo deal out of it....xo
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Old 29-12-2009, 22:40
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Just how desperate is their record company to hold onto the name. There's been less Doctor Who's
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Old 29-12-2009, 22:42
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No. They are fake in so many ways. It isn't Sugababes anymore.

How can they say they don't want to talk about what happened, and now they decide to leak more and more info. each week.

Heidi, BYE.
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I agree with RocaBoi18 for the 1st time EVER, wtf is up with that?!?!
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Old 29-12-2009, 22:49
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They'll be fine, they a lot happier and more comfortable now and they have accepted Jade in nicely

plus there music careers will be fine with signing to America and collaberating with Sean Kingston ect
Signing an America deal isn't really the be all and end all, if you don't have someone who can put them on the biggest platform...cos be sure Jay Z wont be going all out for them, as if they were Rihanna. It's not like they have Cowell, who will thrust Alexandra on American Idol in April either! This duet with SK is much talked about, but remember he isnt that big in America anyway, 3 top 10 singles from 2 low selling albums, the 1st only did 500k and the second hasn't reached 100k (after 4 months on the chart! )
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Old 29-12-2009, 22:56
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Signing an America deal isn't really the be all and end all, if you don't have someone who can put them on the biggest platform...cos be sure Jay Z wont be going all out for them, as if they were Rihanna. It's not like they have Cowell, who will thrust Alexandra on American Idol in April either! This duet with SK is much talked about, but remember he isnt that big in America anyway, 3 top 10 singles from 2 low selling albums, the 1st only did 500k and the second hasn't reached 100k (after 4 months on the chart! )
anything that Jay Z touches turns to gold so they got lucky with him and i don't think Jay Z will underrated a group like them and Sean Kingston is famous enough regards of success
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Old 29-12-2009, 23:37
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No. They are fake in so many ways. It isn't Sugababes anymore.

How can they say they don't want to talk about what happened, and now they decide to leak more and more info. each week.

Heidi, BYE.
Yeah Mutya was right, she is a little snake.
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Old 29-12-2009, 23:39
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These 3 girls who are now the "Sugababes" has had the heart torn out of it's very soul, there is also no chemistry.

2.0 was my favourite.
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Old 30-12-2009, 00:03
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anything that Jay Z touches turns to gold so they got lucky with him and i don't think Jay Z will underrated a group like them and Sean Kingston is famous enough regards of success
Jay Z is one of the shrewdist businessmen out there! He hasn't even bothered to meet them lol (apparently one failed meeting in August)! You say everything he touches turns to gold.....search Teairra Mari, his right hand girl (his favoured over Rihanna at the time)...who he labelled 'Princess of the Rock', bling'd her out and had her perform at all his shows....she was dropped by telephone on her prom night...so please dont be silly and think these girls are gonna TURN to gold because of this. TM was so close to him and she didnt! Do you think Jay Z will have the Sugas come out and perform AAG or ME when he is doing a show?!?

Sorry we will have to disagree about SK, cos he aint a big player...maybe if they got someone like Lil Wayne/Flo Rida (sells singles and radio loves him) we could have said something! Cos having SK on a song doesn't guarantee a song any airplay, as half of his have flopped at radio!
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Old 30-12-2009, 00:11
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Jay Z is one of the shrewdist businessmen out there! He hasn't even bothered to meet them lol (apparently one failed meeting in August)! You say everything he touches turns to gold.....search Teairra Mari, his right hand girl (his favoured over Rihanna at the time)...who he labelled 'Princess of the Rock'....she was dropped by telephone on her prom night...so please dont be silly and think these girls are gonna TURN to gold because of this. TM was so close to him and she didnt!

Sorry we will have to disagree about SK, cos he aint a big player...maybe if they got someone like Lil Wayne/Flo Rida (sells singles and radio loves him) we could have said something! Cos having SK on a song doesn't guarantee a song any airplay, as half of his have flopped at radio!
thats just Teairra Mari she sucked i never liked her plus if you look back then nobody would expect Rihanna's success but anyway im sure he knows The Sugababes success he will (or should) keep them as top priority and Jay-Z's been really lucky this year hes had great success i don't care about meetings ect

Lil Wayne is going to prison isn't he? but hes still big enough still to have some recognision hes not THAT bad a No.1 single is good enough for me
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Old 30-12-2009, 00:27
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thats just Teairra Mari she sucked i never liked her plus if you look back then nobody would expect Rihanna's success but anyway im sure he knows The Sugababes success he will (or should) keep them as top priority and Jay-Z's been really lucky this year hes had great success i don't care about meetings ect

Lil Wayne is going to prison isn't he? but hes still big enough still to have some recognision hes not THAT bad a No.1 single is good enough for me
You seem to be pinning quite a lot on this....and if he was looking at the Sugababes current figures in the UK, he should be thinking he probably made a big mistake! Personally, I dont think they will have a big hit single (i.e. hitting top5) and I dont see them selling many albums really! But, in fairness I never saw this when Keisha was there, and I see it even less now!

All I can say, is I will be happy to be proved wrong, but I just don't see it at all tbh!


*I know already, when I say I told you so in 12 months, certain users will say I'm a hater, and come out with 20 million excuses as to why it never went well but oh well, I've said my piece! *
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Old 30-12-2009, 00:34
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You seem to be pinning quite a lot on this....and if he was looking at the Sugababes current figures in the UK, he should be thinking he probably made a big mistake! Personally, I dont think they will have a big hit single (i.e. hitting top5) and I dont see them selling many albums really! But, in fairness I never saw this when Keisha was there, and I see it even less now!

All I can say, is I will be happy to be proved wrong, but I just don't see it at all tbh!


*I know already, when I say I told you so in 12 months, certain users will say I'm a hater, and come out with 20 million excuses as to why it never went well but oh well, I've said my piece! *
well thats your opinion i think they will they've have major success and have certain labels which Jay Z simply cannot turn down

i do ahd what? well your opinion its a free country even though i do think your wrong
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Old 30-12-2009, 00:40
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Sorry but look at the figures!

The last 2 singles have flopped sales wise!

The wheels start coming off sales wise with the departure of Mutya (in terms of albums) and now the singles sales are dire!


Look at Jay Z, he has signed the Ting Tings in November, met them and has been raving about them on radio etc saying how he will turn them into the biggest band in the world today and saying how he will produce tracks on their next album, yet no contact with the Sugababes!
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Old 30-12-2009, 01:26
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Sorry but look at the figures!

The last 2 singles have flopped sales wise!

The wheels start coming off sales wise with the departure of Mutya (in terms of albums) and now the singles sales are dire!


Look at Jay Z, he has signed the Ting Tings in November, met them and has been raving about them on radio etc saying how he will turn them into the biggest band in the world today and saying how he will produce tracks on their next album, yet no contact with the Sugababes!
sales figures determine everything then? well Mini Viva had a top 10 hit so they must be good but there second single went to no. 72

i know i've said it about Teairra but thats just The Ting Tings they're aren't that big or good tbqh anyway Jay Z is a busy man and why does he need to meet them? whats so important that they need a meeting?
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Old 30-12-2009, 03:35
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Sorry but look at the figures!

The last 2 singles have flopped sales wise!
You're lying. Both Get Sexy and About A Girl have sold over 100k.

And don't confuse chart position with sales. For instance, none of About A Girl's Amazon.co.uk sales factored in its chart position, and even the total number of sales made when it was priced at 29p have yet to be properly declared.
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Old 30-12-2009, 10:35
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You're lying. Both Get Sexy and About A Girl have sold over 100k.

And don't confuse chart position with sales. For instance, none of About A Girl's Amazon.co.uk sales factored in its chart position, and even the total number of sales made when it was priced at 29p have yet to be properly declared.
Delectable said on here that About A Girl would never sell over 100k He actually gloaded fans about it. Yet it has now passed 100k.

So he was wrong. He was wrong about Cheryl Cole's and JLS's sales as well....

Delectable just likes to down the babes at any given chance. He will be gutted when they come back strong next year as the Saturday's will be gone by March and Girls Aloud will not have a new album out this side of 2011. Babe's will gain from this.
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Old 30-12-2009, 13:51
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Do you think they work without Keisha?

I don't think they do. I like Jade, she has a nice voice, but they don't seem to have any chemistry what so ever.

I liked Sugababes 2.0, and 3.0 but 4.0 isn't as good, in my eyes...

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Agree. Im thinking about ditching their next album. I cringed when i heard Jade on the new Get sexy version and i refused to download the Jade version of About a girl. I have nothing against the girl but i think it was cruel the way Keish was kicked out and Jade has no chemistry with Heidi or Amelle at all.
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Old 30-12-2009, 13:53
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They'll be fine, they a lot happier and more comfortable now and they have accepted Jade in nicely

plus there music careers will be fine with signing to America and collaberating with Sean Kingston ect
is it true that his dad (who is a millionaire) paid someone to give him a record contract?
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Old 30-12-2009, 15:58
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Yeah Mutya was right, she is a little snake.
and yet cheryl cole jumped to the defence of heidi and sided with her! so what does that tell you.... if cheryl has believed heidi over keisha that is enough for me.. holly willoby is another one who defended heidi both of them did. it was cheryl who got sugababes onto xtra factor and hugged heidi live on air as well.......
He will be gutted when they come back strong next year as the Saturday's will be gone by March and Girls Aloud will not have a new album out this side of 2011. Babe's will gain from this.
true facts

saturdays on about to fail. girls aloud arent here

music still needs a girl group so they win by devault. once girls aloud are back the sugababes will have reestablished themselves...

they will have had a number 1 single by sep 2010
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Old 30-12-2009, 16:07
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Agree. Im thinking about ditching their next album. I cringed when i heard Jade on the new Get sexy version and i refused to download the Jade version of About a girl. I have nothing against the girl but i think it was cruel the way Keish was kicked out and Jade has no chemistry with Heidi or Amelle at all.
Im listening to Jade's version now, I really don't like it. It sounds like she's just recorded her lyrics over Keisha's, also they left Keisha's 'Now' aswell .

Yeah how can you be kicked out of something you created? That was wrong, I don't dislike Jade, she's a good vocalist, but it would have been better for Heidi, Amelle and Jade to make a band with a new name etc.

Luckily, I downloaded a full 6 song sampler with all Keisha's vocals, so that is my 'Sweet 7' album.
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