Fine post, if you don't mind me saying & a great question to boot.

Glitter's crimes are so appalling that I don't think it is possible to divorce the man from the music.

It is a real shame because his music is great in a drunken party animal kind of way.

Saying that, I could fully understand if other people thought the opposite to me.

Gadd and Glitter are the same beast, no matter how you try and separate them.

he was a prolific, convicted, predatory paedophile who is still unrepentant with a long history of crimes against kiddies...not 1 mistake...


yeah?...well who gets the royalties from gary glitters record sales?..oh yeah that would be paul gadd, whos predatory paedophile lifestyle came courtesy of gary glitter... buy the material = supporting a known paedophiles actions.

i never liked his music, thought it was childish comedy pop. yes he has a place in music history, a 2 year chart reign (not much is it?) and years after of 'so so'.

its easy to target gg, the bigger they come etc.. but should we ban all other records by convicted paedos?... years ago a bay city roller was convicted, j king, the drummer from the foundations...yet 'build me up buttercup' still gets played.

as has been already mentioned, his records now take on a different mental image when heard.

I bought a GG Greatest Hits double CD from Amazon a few weeks ago and love it. Interesting that when they get some in they sell out very fast!

Agreed.I love all the 70s Glam Rock stuff,including GG.

Leader,Leader

leader of what?....

paedos in pop?...

sorry dude, but i dont know how anyone could carry on liking his material after his personal life has been exposed. surely any right minded person would turn their back on him, unless they had sympathy for him?...

Like I said-I agree with Julie68.GG is a character.PG does make money from royalties,but I doubt he enjoys the life he now has to live.

Always loved the Glam Rock stuff,and always will.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with still being a fan of Glitter's work. What about all the other music artists in history that have committed questionable acts? I also think your last sentence sounds like that of a typical paedophile hater.

... but the two are inextricably linked... pg IS gg... its only a stage name, regardless if you bought gg material you payed for his abuse of children. ok you didnt know that at the time, but you do now and how can you listen to that (tripe...it really is rubbish) music now and ignore what it lead too?..

glitter/gadd crossed a line, not once, but repeatedly, how can any sane person ignore that 'just because they once liked his music'? . his music is totally irrelevant now, it hasnt aged well, theres far more better tracks out there, no one needs gg music, so why just not drop it? especially as supporting it actively condones his actions! i mean, gg must be thinking 'if they still like/buy my records they dont have a problem with what i do'!!!!!

I was a fan of Slade, Sweet and Mud back in the early 70s and didn't really like GG that much, though it was perfectly in keeping with the glam rock trend. He did have lot of fans, though, and people who liked him back then shouldn't really beat themselves up about it; your memories are your memories and nobody knew the truth about him at the time.
However, I think that it's right that income that he gets from his music should be denied him as much as possible and I personally wouldn't want to hear his music played publicly now that we know about his loathsome crimes.

I think some are letting their emotions run riot in this thread. If people can't separate the man from the music, then .....

PMSL..... im HAPPY to be a paedophile hater! ffs!!!!

others have accepted their wrongdoings... have you actually read what glitter repeatedly did to little girls?... glitter is an unrepentant paedophile... the most disgusting, revolting of all sexual perverts. if he held his hands up and admitted he had a problem with a sexual attraction to little kids and wanted help...id be right behind him, accepting his wrongdoings and wanting help to curb his sickening leanings. he didnt, he carries on denying hes done anything wrong ... so he can rot in hell for all the abuse he dished out to children. i cannot listen to a gg track now and get out of my mind the accounts of abuse he inflicted on kids... i thought that no intelligent , compassionate person could either.....

its not about emotion, its about thinking about an unpleasant situation and taking an adult, responsible reaction to a seriese of occurances.

no i cant seperate the man from the music, they are the same person. buy the music = pay for paedophile activities. the blokes a pathetic predatory paedophile and whether i like his nusic or not will not be funding his sick, perverted, evil, lifestyle... are you happy to?

I'm not at all comfortable with that assumption. I don't think you have the right to judge peoples' intelligence or compassion by the music they listen to. Wagner was a terrible old bigot and is credited with influencing Hitler in his anti-semitism, but we don't accuse those who enjoy The Ring Cycle of being bigoted themselves.

The question I started with is, how far can we divorce the music from the man? The obvious answer is that people vary; and that this is not a test of intelligence or compassion, just of detachment.

I can separate the man from the music, but to be honest, the music just isn't that good. It hasn't aged well and as others have said, not a lot of stuff from that particular era has. You don't hear much of the Bay City Rollers these days either.

The only "glam rock" bands that have really stood the test of time are T Rex and Roxy Music.

EDIT: And possibly Slade.

I bought his GH CD and didn't look upon it as funding his lifestyle at all.

and how do you reckon that?

how do you think he paid for his pc and membership to a paedo site? how do you think he paid for his trip to viet nam/ cambodia?

where do you think the money came/comes from for this creature to indulge in his sick sexual lifestyle?.. you KNOW hes a paedophile yet you still give him money...

go figure.

not comfortable? why? because you like his music and dont want to stomach the fact that you who buy his music are facitlitating his lifestyle dispite knowing what he does?

the wagner analogy doesnt hold water as its historic. but if wagner produced material now, today, that would support anti semitism and bigotry then im sure people who thought about it would chose NOT to support it by buying his material..

as for the initial question posed... i think we HAVE to think about it, if we continue to support/buy his material then we do so knowing that it may well be used for funding illegal/immoral purposes. if the fan/buyer is happy with that then fair dos! lol. personally i dont think that after 36 years his music is that important enough to give it a second thought... its 36 years old ffs! theres far better music produced before and after, given his liking for kiddies in a sexual manner i reckon its a no brainer. his music simply isnt good enough to overlook the misery him and his type has metered out on children.

In that case, I am also boycotting the music of R. Kelly, The Who, The Doors, Robbie Williams, The Bay City Rollers, Michael Jackson...the list would be endless.

why robbie williams? he has never been convicted or even suspected of paedo activities. besides, most of the others were never convicted and why blame the whole group for the actions of 1member?... non of them are hardly in the same league as gadd who has a string on repeated offences against kids. the first time i read about it was long ago, in the 80's.

jackson was never convicted, bizarrely, so officially he aint a paedo, but hey, im happy to boycott his music... lol.. i would to anyone who is a serial offender.

Gary Glitter - Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas

Lyrics

light the lights, ring the chimes
come on in its party time
raise a glass for old lang syne
come on and rock it up for all mankind
good to see friends i know
kissin' under the mistletoe
i love to hear the children sing
it looks like santa's gonna' bring...

(another rock and roll christmas)
another christmas rock and roll
presents hangin' from the tree
you'll never guess what you've got from me
(another rock and roll christmas)
another christmas rock and roll
you better be off home, shut up tight
you never know it might snow tonight

guys and gals stay up late
they're so excited they can't wait
let there be peace on earth
come on and rock and roll for all your worth
were gonna' laugh were gonna' sing
were gonna' make the rafters ring
pull my cracker
let me be the silver star upon your tree

(another rock and roll christmas)
another christmas rock and roll
all dressed up so here we go
do i hear sleigh bells in the snow?
(another rock and roll christmas)
another christmas rock and roll
tonight old santa never ever stops
he rocks around the chimney tops

and you'll be rockin' in your stockin'
when you see your big suprise
cause you'll be rockin' in your stockin
you won't believe your big blue eyes

come on in join the fun
it's christmas time for everyone
may your days be merry and bright
this aint gonna' be no silent night
see the stars glittering
soon they're gonna' see the new year in
Everyone's huggin kiss me quick
i'm gonna rock and roll for old saint nick

That used to be one of my favourite Christmas songs on the radio.

I think you've utterly proved my point with all the posts I've seen from you on this page. I'm just glad that there are some out there that can separate his music from him, the person. If we're talking about questionable instances, then there'd be quite a few artists over the years that would have threads on them in here.

no way would i buy any of his stuff and line his paedo pockets.

i can understand people still like his music but personally i'd never buy anything a paedo did.

It wouldn't be endless. And of that list I don't listen to R Kelly or The Who, partly for that reason. The same reason I no longer listen to my Gary Glitter CD or watch People Like Us. Crack on if you want but I want no part of it.

If people like his music, but don't want to fund his "paedo pockets", is this the rare occasion that we can advocate illegally downloading?