I'm guessing not that far in advance as we know she got married recently and judging from their conversation they are newly weds. They met in JE and it was mentioned sometime after that she married and today she is married to him so unless after meeting him she went on to marry her other boyfriend and then divorced him and married her friend.

Logic says they got together after meeting in JE.

Okay if we're not reading between the lines they were freelance in that particular scene which is all I really meant. I didn't say they had to be freelance forever. I was speaking in present tense. I'm unemployed. I don't want to be unemployed forever do I.

How Come No one has mentioned this;

MICKEYS BEARD(EY THING)

Don't be silly, Mickey isn't gay. And don't call Martha a 'thing' either!

Please, no... have you ever seen "Morons From Outer Space"?
Oh... wrong Smith and Jones...

To be honest I prefered Martha being with Milligan. (Then again I think the reason why is because Mickey annoys me and I don't like it when a Character I like gets together with a Character I DON'T like!Very, VERY childish of me I know!)

Ah well what's done is done, it's not up to me to decide who she ends up with, that's RTD's Job.

May the 2 of them be very happy together!

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i would absolutly love martha and mickey in torchwood. but i did hear that the actor who plays mickey said he has left doctor who behind now and will never appear again.

Only if she does it as her character from "Hyperdrive", although having seen Miranda on a few things, I think she *is* that character.

mm ok im SURE it was nowhere near 2020, 2. he went back to january of 2005 a few months before he and rose met, NOT 1995. he also stayed under a shadow. so she wouldn't see his face properly.

Doctor Who is not Torchwood though. He may have left Doctor Who for good, however Torchwood, while being a spin off is a separate show.

But Martha mentioned being married to Mickey.

Although I thought she was def. married to Tom Milligan, so I just assumed she must have divorced him and married Mickey.

I have since been corrected on that. I think it was a line i misheard due to the excitement on first viewing but I haven't watched it a second time yet.

Confirmed on Twitter by Noel Clarke this very evening!
http://twitter.com/NoelClarke/status/7308360125

I don't think it was ever confirmed that Martha and Tom had got married. It was mentioned that they were engaged a few times, and in CoE Jack or Gwen mentioned that Martha was on her honeymoon and that was all we heard. They didn't say who she married, so presumably it was Mickey.

Maybe poor Tom got exterminated by the Daleks or otherwise died in one of the many Earthbound crises the Earth has suffered.

Or that him being a Doctor and her off everywhere for UNIT meant their schedules were just incompatible, nothing personal to them, they just couldn't have the time for one another. (I'm sure the irony would not be lost on Martha, from loving one guy with too MUCH time to one with to little )

Of course not the would obviously go with the title

Mrs and Mr Smith




Edit: I meant Dr. and Mr. Smith

I actually posted that this would happen over a year ago, however i cant find the post.

It was unfortunately obvious that in TV world, that 2 Black characters, no matter how little they actually know each other, will probably be slung together in order to tie things up.
It's kind of the default in most programmes that Black people will end up with the other Black main character.

Although ironically I'm sure he said that after "Journey's End" too! Nice that he knows what the show is called - Dr Who indeed!




I heard someone else make this observation when it was first rumoured and I have to say I disagree when it comes to British t.v. at least. I know US tv has a tendency to only pair black characters up with others due to a whole section of America who jsut don't like the idea but I don't think DW is guilty of that. Look at Donna! That's two black men she's fallen for and tried to marry!

I don't really see a problem pairing them together. It was actually nice to see that out of the companions of this era, a couple of them ended up together. There weren't really many other pairings you could have done either.

I do have a feeling that it was maybe an idea thrown together just to give Mickey a big enough place in that series of farewells. Couldn't have seen the Doctor tracking him down on his own, seems more reasonable if he's tagged to a bigger character.

Was slightly distracted by Noel Clarke's "tough guy" act in that final scene though - he's done it before to an extent, but he really did look he was filling his pants between lines.

I think they should ditch Torchwood now they've killed everyone off (practically) and blew up the hub, and give Mickey and Martha a spin-off

I have to agree. IMO, it may be the case in America but not in Britain, certainly not with Who, anyway. In Will Smith's (IIRC) only romantic comedy, Hitch, his love interest is Eva Mendes, who's hispanic. At least one media commentator said at the time that Mendes was cast because if Smith's love interest was white the American audience wouldn't find it believable and if she were black it would alienate the American audience, what with having two black lead romantic characters in a movie that had not been marketed as 'black'.

Luckily, Who doesn't exactly have to worry about being believable and I'll leave you to make up your own jokes about not being able to alienate an audience that watches a show with an alien as the eponymous character

Seriously, I thought the Martha and Mickey pairing was less about race and more about the irony/coincidence of the two characters that were effectively rejected by the Doctor and Rose respectively ending up finally finding happiness with one another. But I do agree that Martha should have stuck with Tom

Not to mention Morvin and Foon and Martha's dad and his girl friend, Martha and Tom.

Until this episode the only black/black pairing I can think of is the older couple in Planet of the Dead.

And who did Donna marry exactly?

It was the only pairing they could put together, and it was a nice little touch at the end.
And Martha was credited as Martha Smith-Jones... Take a look at the credits on iPlayer.

Link starts at the credits: http://bbc.co.uk/i/pk7ls/

Oh and I think Torchwood will be returning with Alonso Frame in tow...