The next incarnation of the Doctor will be the last before he finally dies. How long is Matt Smith contracted? Doctor Who could be over within a few years. Any attempt to carry it beyond 12 reincarnations will bring all credibility to the character crashing down.
BBC in trouble?
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Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“lol, funny thread!
The show is science fiction. They can do what the hell they like.”
“lol, funny thread!
The show is science fiction. They can do what the hell they like.”
That's my feeling too. If the show continues to be popular, then strap yourself in, because the Doctor will surely have more regenerations to come beyond thirteen.
It's Science Fiction, ffs.
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“lol, funny thread!
The show is science fiction. They can do what the hell they like.”
“lol, funny thread!
The show is science fiction. They can do what the hell they like.”
Indeed, it would be enormously stupid of the BBC to just axe DW because of some old 'rule' that anyone with an imagination can get around. If interest in DW wanes over the next few years then maybe the OP has a point, if it doesn't, which will hopefully be the case, then axing it would be a huge loss for the BBC.
Seems to stick two fingers up to the whole time lord mythology but there you go. If we are to milk it what would people like to see happen? That's another interesting question.
I think a good one would be for the 14th one to be a female.
I think a good one would be for the 14th one to be a female.
Cast your mind back to 1983 and The Five Doctors.
The Master was offered a brand new cycle of Regenerations if he helped the Time Lords/Rescued The Doctor.
The beauty of the whole thing is it's Fiction. Anything can happen. And generally does.
The series has been reinventing itself time after time since the early 60's, it's not going to stop doing that.
The Master was offered a brand new cycle of Regenerations if he helped the Time Lords/Rescued The Doctor.
The beauty of the whole thing is it's Fiction. Anything can happen. And generally does.
The series has been reinventing itself time after time since the early 60's, it's not going to stop doing that.
Originally Posted by JosephG:
“Cast your mind back to 1983 and The Five Doctors.
The Master was offered a brand new cycle of Regenerations if he helped the Time Lords/Rescued The Doctor.
The beauty of the whole thing is it's Fiction. Anything can happen. And generally does.
The series has been reinventing itself time after time since the early 60's, it's not going to stop doing that.”
“Cast your mind back to 1983 and The Five Doctors.
The Master was offered a brand new cycle of Regenerations if he helped the Time Lords/Rescued The Doctor.
The beauty of the whole thing is it's Fiction. Anything can happen. And generally does.
The series has been reinventing itself time after time since the early 60's, it's not going to stop doing that.”
Indeed and the Derek Jacobi/john Simm Master was resurrected by the Time Lords to help fight in the time war. I think the Time Lords having discovered a way to be immortal imposed the 12 regeneration rule because they realised living for ever did have problems. But as has been said in this thread already it's science fiction and anything can happen and I really don't see, as long as it's done in a believable way, giving the Doctor more than 12 regenerations will hurt the show
Originally Posted by jarr:
“The question still stands doesn't it?”
“The question still stands doesn't it?”
Rose was seemingly trapped on a parallel world forever in Doomsday but she was back two years later. If they can do that, then they can break the '13 lives' thing. It's fantasy after all.
Originally Posted by jarr:
“Seems to stick two fingers up to the whole time lord mythology but there you go. If we are to milk it what would people like to see happen? That's another interesting question.
I think a good one would be for the 14th one to be a female.”
“Seems to stick two fingers up to the whole time lord mythology but there you go. If we are to milk it what would people like to see happen? That's another interesting question.
I think a good one would be for the 14th one to be a female.”
As mentioned already, there are at least two more Doctors after Matt Smith.
Beyond that, who can say. They just brought Rasilon back, and the Master (again) so chances are there's a simple way to do the same for the Doctor.
I bet they do a story sooner or later that means either the doc has infinite Regens..
or a 'reset' of his lives.
let's be honest...of they can keep bring back a girl who was trapped in another Universe anything is possible
or a 'reset' of his lives.
let's be honest...of they can keep bring back a girl who was trapped in another Universe anything is possible
Just needs one quick throw-away line one day
Doctor- They used to be restrictions on how many time we can regenerate, but since the timelords died, it no longer exists
Thats it, problem solved
I did like what the ood said though, his song is ending but the story never ends,that already says to me it will go past 13 lives
Doctor- They used to be restrictions on how many time we can regenerate, but since the timelords died, it no longer exists
Thats it, problem solved
I did like what the ood said though, his song is ending but the story never ends,that already says to me it will go past 13 lives
He's more than a Timelord. Its suggested many times. I would like to see that mystery bought back to the character.
Didn't the Time Lords impose the 12 regeneration/13 incarnation rule? The Time Lords are gone, locked in the Time War, so the rules probably no longer apply.
Originally Posted by jarr:
“The question still stands doesn't it?”
“The question still stands doesn't it?”
No, the question was naive and ridiculous.
The show is about time travel with a regenerating main character. Both utterly absurd concepts. It has no credibility to lose. It's fantasy.
When all his regenerations are used up they either make a big deal of it and show us how he gets another set as the plot of the 13th doc's final episode(s), or they give a one-sentence explanation and get on with it.
Either way works just fine.
Originally Posted by Kal_El:
“That's my feeling too. If the show continues to be popular, then strap yourself in, because the Doctor will surely have more regenerations to come beyond thirteen.
It's Science Fiction, ffs.”
“That's my feeling too. If the show continues to be popular, then strap yourself in, because the Doctor will surely have more regenerations to come beyond thirteen.
It's Science Fiction, ffs.”
Yes, and apparently the whole idea of the Doctor regenerating was introduced by the writers due to William Hartnell's failing health, and due to the success of the series, was used as a way of bring Patrick Troughton in as a replacement. In other words, they will find a way .....
All they have to say is that the regeneration limit was imposed by the Time Lords - who aren't around any more. That would give the Doctor even more incentive to make sure Rassilon and Co stay put...
Originally Posted by jarr:
“The question still stands doesn't it?”
“The question still stands doesn't it?”
what question - will all credibility be lost when something seemingly impossible happens in a work of science fiction?
Iain
The doctor could just meet an alien race save them and they have the abilty wind back his odometre and reset it to 0.
He could die stopping some explosion of some strange exotic chemical which has a side effect of giving him more regens.
Because the timlords/galifrey are timelocked he can just continue regening indefinitely (noty sure how that works myself, I think I remember something about the timelord rulers set a rule where you can only have so many regens then you are forced to die.)
He could find a way to pass to the other universe and after fighting the daleks with his (DT version) the DT version dies there is some hidden timelorrdy stuff left in him and it gets transferred into our doctor giving him more regens.
He could die stopping some explosion of some strange exotic chemical which has a side effect of giving him more regens.
Because the timlords/galifrey are timelocked he can just continue regening indefinitely (noty sure how that works myself, I think I remember something about the timelord rulers set a rule where you can only have so many regens then you are forced to die.)
He could find a way to pass to the other universe and after fighting the daleks with his (DT version) the DT version dies there is some hidden timelorrdy stuff left in him and it gets transferred into our doctor giving him more regens.
Originally Posted by NewbieCanuck:
“No, the question was naive and ridiculous.
The show is about time travel with a regenerating main character. Both utterly absurd concepts. It has no credibility to lose. It's fantasy.
When all his regenerations are used up they either make a big deal of it and show us how he gets another set as the plot of the 13th doc's final episode(s), or they give a one-sentence explanation and get on with it.
Either way works just fine.”
“No, the question was naive and ridiculous.
The show is about time travel with a regenerating main character. Both utterly absurd concepts. It has no credibility to lose. It's fantasy.
When all his regenerations are used up they either make a big deal of it and show us how he gets another set as the plot of the 13th doc's final episode(s), or they give a one-sentence explanation and get on with it.
Either way works just fine.”
Naive and ridiculous that as a fan I merely questioned the mythology of Doctor Who. I'll keep a look out for your posts and I'll also abruptly point out naive ridiculous ones. You assume I'm a casual viewer I take it?
The human Doctor has no regeneration energy. He only has the real Doctor's memories and outside appearance, not his Time Lord physiology.
Originally Posted by jarr:
“The next incarnation of the Doctor will be the last before he finally dies. How long is Matt Smith contracted? Doctor Who could be over within a few years. Any attempt to carry it beyond 12 reincarnations will bring all credibility to the character crashing down.”
“The next incarnation of the Doctor will be the last before he finally dies. How long is Matt Smith contracted? Doctor Who could be over within a few years. Any attempt to carry it beyond 12 reincarnations will bring all credibility to the character crashing down.”
Wrong on at least two counts
The Dr has 12 regenerations & so that means at 13 lives & Matt Smith is only the 11th
Apart from that, spot on
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