...said the Doctor. Do you agree ?

Well, let's see.

He lost his planet
Lost all his people
Lost his love - many times not just Rose
Lost his best friend
Loses his entire personality every time he regenerates
He's lonely

I think he's got a point there.

Poor bloke. Crappy day after crappy day.

Its the sort of thing a spolit 13 year old would say.

Rather sums up the boorish and often childish characterisation of the 10th Doc.

There was a distinct lack of dignity towards the end of the 10th Doc's reign.
Cant really imagine Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee etc whingeing like a kid.

I hated that line. Awful, awful writing IMHO. It just felt like RTD sacrificed a part of the Doctor's character, just so that sexually frustrated women everywhere would watch it and go "the Doctor's getting emotional - now I am, too! My, what good writing!"
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If he finished it with 'should have gone to specsavers' it would have been classier writing.

What's wrong with no wanting to change everything about who you are? Which is what happens in regeneration, face, hands, personality new man. He liked being Ten and didn't want to change. He lost no dignity if you ask me.

Sounding like an immature teenage boy is not very dignified.

Would he have just preferred to die? Surely he is used to regeneration now having done it many times?

He's never said "Its not fair" and stamped his feet before, so why now?

It was pathetic.

He's very obviously used to regeneration but there's nothing wrong with him wanting to remain the way he is. But let's face it, The Doctor by his very nature, is immature, and eccentric when compared to us. He is in his element when faced with death and danger.

The Doctor likens Regeneration to death. Not physical death but the death of an old life. I think that's why he went back to all his old companions one last time. I think he believed he'd never see them again and certainly not as 10.

He has every right to feel the way he does and while we all have our preferred last words for the Doctor it was poignant, relevant to his feelings and very very sad. It was a special night.

Hear Hear. It was only reflecting what a lot of the audience would have been feeling. For a lot of people he was their Doctor - he certainly was mine - and they were in no rush to see him go.

What is the point of being an adult, if you can't be childish sometimes. --Tom Baker as The Fourth Doctor

Why don't you just accept the fact that you hate the show and stop watching it? You'll be happier, and dare I say, it would be the adult thing to do.

Another person who wants to equate criticisms with hatred.

He came across as a total whiner, from his rant against Wilf onwards. No previous Doctor behaved in such an undignified manner when meeting their end.

The Doctor is not a superhuman and is allowed to have feelings. What does he do when he doesn't have the answers? Displays emotion and we do know that 10 loved emotions.

Please, may I remind you all that the Second Doctor, when knowing his end was coming tried to run away from the Time Lords not once but twice, then found many excuses not to accept the chosen regeneration (too old, too thin, etc.) and ended up by saying "No, no, no, no, no..." repeatedly.

So when some of you say "No previous Doctor behaved in such an undignified manner when meeting their end" or "Cant really imagine Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee etc whingeing like a kid" I can't help but laugh.

Well folks, it WASN'T FAIR.

The Doctor had yet again solved the time war. He had saved the entire universe yet again! He could have done so much more!

Yet he had to voluntarily give up his incarnation to save the life of one old man. He did it. He always WOULD do it. One life is precious to the Doctor. . .

but it was NOT fair.

Bear in mind that The Doctor doesn't seem to be spending much time in a given body so he's probably narked being in a babe magnet body and then losing it.

You showed up less than a month ago and have done nothing BUT criticise. There's not one aspect of the show you claim to enjoy. If you want to change something to the extent you do, and mention nothing that you enjoy about it, then it's really time to consider that you just don't like it.

When he uttered that line, we all cracked up in my house.

My flatmate: "He died as he lived, like a whiny bitch".

Whilst I could appreciate the sentiment behind the words, hearing him speak them aloud and throw a bit of a tantrum only made him look petulant and undignified IMO.

Since I joined the last two episodes have (in my opinion) not been very good. Most discussions on the board have been about these two. I have participated. You are judging me (wrongly) purely on this. Should I judge you purely on what you think about these 2 episodes?

If I had joined after "Midnight" or "Human Nature" or "Blink" or "Silence in the Library" etc then I would have had something else to say. I am not an absolute die-hard fan. I like some episodes, I dislike others.

Back on topic - as soon as you say words like "its not fair" (even if you think them) you lose all sense of dignity. Dignity is how you behave not what you are thinking or feeling.

When you consider he bemoans the death of his current self to a an old man who would expect to be facing his own ultimate demise sooner rather than later, and that the death of the self he fears so much is exactly the fate he inflicted on Donna he does come across negatively, but maybe that is what RTD wanted.

He's given the Dr character dimensions which previous incarnations never had and is would be out of character for someone who so embraces life to go quietly, particularly when we've seen in Journey's End that if there is a get out clause he'd rather stay as his current self.

and yet on the dozens (maybe even hundreds) of occasions wher it appears he has faced certain death he hasnt always begged like an animal or wailed about the unfairness - he has usually just been dignified and even subversively jokey.

And this time when it was just a regeneration he whines like a kid...
Are we supposed to conclude he fears regeneration more than actual death?

I see the raging as more of a result of a sudden disappointment. "He will knock four times" has been built up so much for Ten and I am sure that he thought he had defeated the prophecy when the Time Lords were sent back. He was facing regeneration/death and thought he had defeated it - you can see in his face that he thinks the moment had passed, but then Wilf knocks four times and he realises it had not passed after all. If I was facing something awful, thought I had it beaten, then suddenly it came back and got me after all, I am pretty sure that I would throw a major strop!

I imagine after the first hundred or so certain death scenarios the currency gets devalued to probable death....in this instance he had multiple psychic affirmations that the end was coming which he seems to have accepted as thus being unavoidable.

And each Doctor has faced their ultimate end in their different ways, this one was just a bit more passionate about their current persona.

No, he's not human at all!