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Hidden message S5 trailer - Potential Spoilers!
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iparadox
03-01-2010
My friend pointed out to me when watching the Doctor Who series 5 trailer that from 0:52 to 0:57 a news report can be heard faintly in the background. It starts with "And in the news". The rest is muffled, but we can make out words like, "Scottish, Duke, Imprisson, Famous".

Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XE&feature=sub

After researching I found out that the Duke of Forgill ( http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Duke_of_Forgill ) was Scottish and was imprissoned by the Zygon.

If I can remember, I think Moffat once said he was a fan of the Zygons. Could this be a news story from the classic series? Could Moffat be trying to tell us something? Or is it just a mistake from a real news story accidentally editted in?

I haven't spoiler tagged as this is only speculation
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, I didn't see it anywhere, and plus, this is my first post
Last edited by iparadox : 03-01-2010 at 00:20
davrosdodebird
03-01-2010
Welcome! And what a post to start with!

Personally, I'm not sure, anything's possible...
Kapellmeister
03-01-2010
According to Wiki the new trailer showed
Spoiler

Silurians and Sea Devils...
The Poster
03-01-2010
I think Moffat said he wasn't going to bring anything from before CE back in his first series.
MC_Satan
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“According to the Wiki the new trailer showed
Spoiler

Silurians and Sea Devils...
”

It did? Must pay more attention, all I saw was a bloody dalek really and the weeping angels (hurrah for the second yawn for the firat)
Magnus Greel
03-01-2010
Ther have indeed been a few titbits around about the
return of the
Spoiler
Zygons
.

I'd be delighted. I liked them and modern special effects
and makeup would really do them justice.
iparadox
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by davrosdodebird:
“Welcome! And what a post to start with!

Personally, I'm not sure, anything's possible...”

Thank you, and thank you

Have a listen yourselves, there is definatley something there. And its definatley a news broadcast of some sort. If Moffat has hidden something, maybe someone here can figure it out

I had to download the video and use a program to boost the sound to 400%, what I got was "And in the news .... made famous as the Duke took his place in Scottish ..."
Wierd
Kapellmeister
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“It did? Must pay more attention, all I saw was a bloody dalek really and the weeping angels (hurrah for the second yawn for the firat)”

It did but I just checked again and it's been edited to delete the aforementioned creatures...

Guess someone got their green monsters confused
rivercity_rules
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by iparadox:
“Thank you, and thank you

Have a listen yourselves, there is definatley something there. And its definatley a news broadcast of some sort. If Moffat has hidden something, maybe someone here can figure it out

I had to download the video and use a program to boost the sound to 400%, what I got was "And in the news .... made famous as the Duke took his place in Scottish ..."
Wierd ”

What I can hear is "in the years since the Rangers players made it (or him) famous (Word that sounds like Dune) has taken his place amongst Scottish. . ." sound trails off.

I think it is just a mistake on the BBCs part and another broadcast has somehow (quite shamefully imo over such a major trailer) become mixed into the trailer.
codename_47
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“According to Wiki the new trailer showed
Spoiler

Silurians and Sea Devils...
”

You know I always thought these two were seperate entities but I was bought the Dr Who Monsters book for Christmas (Borders RIP! ) and it turns out they were working together....

Whaddya know
rua is god
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“It did but I just checked again and it's been edited to delete the aforementioned creatures...

Guess someone got their green monsters confused ”

Hmmm, Theres something green and sea devilly around the 18 second mark on both the official site version and the youtube link above. In fact theres two different shots in a row of what looks like two different aliens ar 18-19seconds in....

Also not posted in here in a bit, new trailer looks good though, better than the last two tennant episodes, which were a little bit of a dissapointment. Looks like they have some form of plan this time rather than throw everything in, people will watch even if it doesn't make sense since Tennant is leaving.
BillyFlynn
03-01-2010
As the broadcast you over hear is ''..since the Rangers players made it famous the Dunes have taken their place in scottish football history...''

This is in reference to Rangers manager Jock Wallace who used to make the players train on the sand dunes of the Ayrshire coast during pre season training. I know Moffat is from Paisley but somehow I dont even think he could make a story out of this scenario. P.S. the new trailer looks amazing and am I right in saying River Song appears more than once in different outfits.....showing multiple episodic appearances perhaps?
Vennegoor
03-01-2010
The Doc hasn't faced Rangers fans before, so there's a first time for everything! They can lay waste to entire cities.

Agree though, it sounds like interference.
richy23
03-01-2010
Which new trailer? The one that is at www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/newyear ?
MC_Satan
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by Vennegoor:
“The Doc hasn't faced Rangers fans before, so there's a first time for everything! They can lay waste to entire cities.

Agree though, it sounds like interference.”

Oooh er!
Old Man 43
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by rua is god:
“Hmmm, Theres something green and sea devilly around the 18 second mark on both the official site version and the youtube link above. In fact theres two different shots in a row of what looks like two different aliens ar 18-19seconds in....

Also not posted in here in a bit, new trailer looks good though, better than the last two tennant episodes, which were a little bit of a dissapointment. Looks like they have some form of plan this time rather than throw everything in, people will watch even if it doesn't make sense since Tennant is leaving.”

Yes I suppose they could be a Sea Devil and a Silurian.
PJ68
03-01-2010
the thing in the trailer is neither a sea devil or a silurian
Old Man 43
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by PJ68:
“the thing in the trailer is neither a sea devil or a silurian”

At 18 seconds there are two reptilian humanoids. They could easily be an updated Sea Devil and Silurian.
Kal_El
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by iparadox:
“Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XE&feature=sub
”

Christ, is everyone who posts comments up on YouTube a goddamn moron? It's like reading the autistic ramblings of a sleep deprived frog.

I only hope the producers and cast members of the show don't read any of it. At least here the detractors have a better command of English.

For the most part.
iparadox
03-01-2010
They look like Sea Devils, the one on the right is holding a Sea Devil gun.
As for the news broadcast, I am looking too much into things, like usual
chuffnobbler
03-01-2010
There has long been speculation about Sea Devils, Silurians and Zygons in the new series. Photos have been published of something a little bit Sea Devil ish in a graveyard. I'd happily see any or all of these return ...
PR.
03-01-2010
Hmm must be a mistake, perhaps they re-used a tape for the recording?

I wish the BBC would sort out a HD or at least HQ version, as both the BBC video and the YouTube one are pretty blurry.
DICKENS99
03-01-2010
Someone on the GB forums has identified it as being Scottish presenter Neil Oliver speaking on an episode of Coast. Quite how it ended up on the soundtrack of the trailer is an unsolved mystery.
badambassador
03-01-2010
Not sure if it will turn out to be as wildly important to the plot as the "Sparrow Travel" coach was, but in the S5 trailer there's a sign (behind the three hooded figures) that may well say "Magpie Electricals".
Anti Static
03-01-2010
Originally Posted by Old Man 43:
“Yes I suppose they could be a Sea Devil and a Silurian.”

Originally Posted by PJ68:
“the thing in the trailer is neither a sea devil or a silurian”

OK, here's a couple of quick grabs from the trailer for easy reference.

Clicky 1 Clicky 2

I can't make my mind up whether they're going to be a Sea Devil and Silurian or not. Either way I'm excited.
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