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Never mind the woman... who was the MAN?
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afx237vi
04-01-2010
Originally Posted by NewbieCanuck:
“But the gun clearly didn't go off in the third. RTD has stated directly that it's a mystery. He may have an idea in his mind (although he didn't seem too keen on the Doctor's mother idea in the commentary), but he didn't choose to reveal it. That sets their status to unknown. Full stop.

A future writer (who clearly won't be RTD) can make those characters anyone he or she wants, but at the moment they're no one.

It's like the long mystery of who picked up the Master's key. People speculated Donna, Rose, Lucy Saxon and Harriet Jones, but we eventually saw who it was. And if RTD hadn't brought the Master back, chances are high that if and when Moffat did it, it would be someone else entirely in a different story.”

The gun didn't go off in the third, no, but it will go off eventually. As you're example demonstrates, seeds are planted well in advance, but they come to fruition eventually, even if it's a couple of years down the line.

The whole Face of Boe thing is another example, and the "your song is ending" stuff.

I would bet that Moffat and RTD discussed their inclusion and it'll come back to be resolved in a year or two.
Old Man 43
04-01-2010
Originally Posted by grunson:
“The gofer timelord did mumble something this but I didn't entirely catch what he said. I thought the idea was that the drumming was a signal that originated with the timelords in their 'present' (as we were viewing it). They sent it back in time to implant it in the Master as he looked into the vortex as a child. So there was a link between the timelords in their timelock and the Master wherever he was outside that could exploited to break out of the timelock.

However I am rather assuming I missed the point somewhat as it would mean that in order to get a signal out of the timelock they sent a signal out of the timelock...”

No the sent the signal back down the Time Lord timeline to the point when before the Time War. They implanted it into The Masters brain. Because The Master was outside the time lock they were then able to exploit this to break the time lock.

It’s as simple as that.
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