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Apprentice USA Season 5 5th Jan 11:30pm
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spookydookey
05-02-2010
Originally Posted by petestan:
“I have to agree the 1st half of the recap episode seemed to be a lets all laugh at Brent episode, if he was so bad why did they pick him to be on there in the 1st place. Trump should have at least made him be PM before sacking him.
As for the "Brit" he seems to get slimier every episode I really hope he doesn't win.”

i agree i would have liked to have seen brent as pm,it would have shown him and us what hes really like as you say he was placed in there for a reason!
NightSwimmer
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by petestan:
“I have to agree the 1st half of the recap episode seemed to be a lets all laugh at Brent episode, if he was so bad why did they pick him to be on there in the 1st place. Trump should have at least made him be PM before sacking him.”

Just watched the recap show and they seemed desperate to justify why Brent was fired, yet to me they didn't come up with anything.

Bad Brent for wanting to get a megaphone (yet for that task it would have been a big help).

Bad Brent for getting upset that his team leader won't allow him to use the phone, and that he wasn't allowed to do anything without permission (but wouldn't any reasonable person be upset at being so ostracised?).

Heck, they even used some pretty blatent trick editing to try and make him seem bad when dealing with that woman in the store, implying that he charged at her and was scarey. Yet if you watch the actual footage, they didn't show him as he started to talk to the woman, they just showed him running in the store, and then showed him talking to the woman which seemed pretty normal (not the best salesmanship, but in no way scarey). All the scariness was purely implied by the voiceover, interview with Allie and the way it was edited together. So the question is, if he had been as scarey as they tried to portray, why didn't they just show it?

Yeah the guy talks a lot, is annoying and is hard to manage, but we knew all that, so why the need to try and bury the guy and justify his firing for half the show? Had there been a lot of fuss in the US at the time he was fired due to the way he had been treated and was this their way of trying to cover their asses?
cherubmattd
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Sean just gets more and more dreadful by the week - maybe its his sneery tone and mid Atlantic accent (not British or American). I don't think I'm come across someone so slimy in all the Apprentice series.”

He is really really annoying. I don't like how he sways between both and is the 'sweet british guy'. Grrrrrrr

Bet he wins now, after I've said I don't like him

I was quite glad Andrea got fired, she was moaning, and as seen as I like Roxanne, and Andrea was belittling her idea on the cruise task, I was glad to see her go. Saying that, I'd have thought she'd have been good apprentice material for Donald Trump.

I'd like the see Allie go next, she's just bitchy and nasty. I must say though, the golf with Vijay Singh was a brilliant reward, one of the best I've seen.
NightSwimmer
06-02-2010
Just watched the Ellis Island episode.

Andrea's gone! Woohoo!

Must admit, as much as I dislike Andrea, I don't think she was the reason for failing the task. The biggest mistake was not getting to the queue early enough to stake their claim to it, and that was down to the project manager.

Yes the design was bad, but most people buying those kinds of brochures don't look at them before buying. And Andreas negativity didn't impact their sales. The one thing that did was her not mentioning that she was an 'expert on bulk sales', although again, the pm should have been exploring that avenue at the start of the task.

(It cracked me up later in the board room when Andrea explained that she is an expert in various fields because she hires expert people in those fields to do the work for her! )

So if I was Trump, I would have fired both Allie and Andrea. If I could just fire one, then I would have fired Andrea, because although Allie was responsible for the loss, there is no way that Andrea would make a good leader in his organisation. Dictator yes, leader, no.

As much as I hate to say it, Lee did well, but in truth he had a fairly easy ride this week because the task was a no brainer. Got to give him props for getting up early though and getting the pitch, as it was that one decision that won the task.

Very happy that Andrea has gone. Would like to see Lee and Sean follow soonish if at all possible.



Originally Posted by brangdon:
“I'm not an especial fan of Lee, and I do like Charmaine, but I didn't see her point here.”

I think her dislike of Lee didn't have to do with this task, but stems from what has happened in the past. At the start of the show, when Lee came back from the boardroom and Leslie didn't, you could see she was really mad about it. I can't remember if anything specific has happened between them, but I would imagine a lot has to do with Lee's schmoozing, and the way he was during the task where they designed the room for kids (sucking up to Lenny, wasting time buying all that useless stuff whilst Charmaine, Tarik and Leslie were left to do all the manual labour, etc.)
sveknu
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by NightSwimmer:
“I can't remember if anything specific has happened between them, but I would imagine a lot has to do with Lee's schmoozing, and the way he was during the task where they designed the room for kids (sucking up to Lenny, wasting time buying all that useless stuff whilst Charmaine, Tarik and Leslie were left to do all the manual labour, etc.)”

Not to mention that he told Trump in the boardroom that Charmaine should be fired, when it was so obvious that Lenny was the one who should go.
oulandy
06-02-2010
Heck! I forgot about The Apprentice and missed this week's episodes.

Can anyone remind me of the series and episode numbers so that I can search on Youtube for the right shows? Thanks.
Jo09
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by sveknu:
“Not to mention that he told Trump in the boardroom that Charmaine should be fired, when it was so obvious that Lenny was the one who should go.”

On countback Charmaine has made way more mistakes than Lenny. Whilst she has shown some good skills she has been lucky. She should have been fired for hiring and paying the comedian. She composed the lyrics to a jingle but left out the USP.
NightSwimmer
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by oulandy:
“Heck! I forgot about The Apprentice and missed this week's episodes.

Can anyone remind me of the series and episode numbers so that I can search on Youtube for the right shows? Thanks.”

It's season 5. I am not sure of the episode number for the first show, which was the mid-season highlight show. But the next episode was Episode 9, which you can find here:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4

Warning: Try not to look at the comments or the related video titles, as they may contain spoilers.
sveknu
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by Jo09:
“On countback Charmaine has made way more mistakes than Lenny. Whilst she has shown some good skills she has been lucky. She should have been fired for hiring and paying the comedian. She composed the lyrics to a jingle but left out the USP.”

Maybe so, but based on the particular task where Lenny was PM (and sucked), Lee's statement was ridiculous.


Originally Posted by oulandy:
“Can anyone remind me of the series and episode numbers so that I can search on Youtube for the right shows? Thanks.”

Season 5, Episode 9. The other episode was a recap-episode which I don't think is available anywhere online.
Edit: See the above post
oulandy
07-02-2010
Thanks a lot NightSwimmer and svetnu for the links and info. I will look forward to seeing the normal episode but will probably not miss the highlights one - seeing them once was enough!

[Edited to clarify that I don't mind not seeing the highlight show]
brangdon
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by NightSwimmer:
“Got to give him props for getting up early though and getting the pitch, as it was that one decision that won the task.”

It helped to get some early sales, but it seemed to me they didn't then have the pitch exclusively. Once the other team turned up they competed. Ally's team did poorly partly because their brochure was poor, partly because they were worse salespeople, partly because she made the decision to abandon that pitch and move onto the island, and partly because Lee's team made a bulk sale to a hotel. That's not in order of importance but it's things that probably also contributed.

I think Lee deserves a lot of credit, or Ally deserves a lot of blame. Especially as Lee's team had previously done so poorly and Ally's team so well. Either the team leader really made a difference, or else the recent Gold Rush firees Leslie and Lenny were dragging the team down so badly they were better off without them.

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“I would imagine a lot has to do with Lee's schmoozing, and the way he was during the task where they designed the room for kids (sucking up to Lenny, wasting time buying all that useless stuff whilst Charmaine, Tarik and Leslie were left to do all the manual labour, etc.)”

I can't understand her feeling that way, but someone had to go buy stuff and someone had to do the manual labour. Lee obviously believed in Lenny and was willing to go to the boardroom for him. He won as team leader in the second task; they only had one other win. I'm not convinced her low opinion is justified.
brangdon
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by Jo09:
“[Charmaine] should have been fired for hiring and paying the comedian.”

I think she should have been brought into the boardroom for that, but if she had been, she could have defended herself and I doubt she'd have been fired. I don't see how not paying the comedian would have helped; the comedian did her job and deserved to be paid for it, and by then the damage had been done. Probably Charmaine should have taken more care to check her act was suitable, but we didn't really see what checking she did. Maybe it was the fault of the agency who supplied her, or something. Regardless, Theresa was lousy leader and deserved to be fired (eg for not having a coherent theme, ignoring the need to lay down turf for the golf, thinking glamour models could educate the dealers about the care with only 30 minutes preparation).

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“She composed the lyrics to a jingle but left out the USP.”

Again, had she actually been brought into the boardroom she could have defended herself. She's unlucky. She's getting blamed - by Trump - for all this stuff in her absence.

But yeah, certainly Lee has a point that a case could be made against Charmaine.
Jo09
08-02-2010
Well on Charmaine's track record I don't think she can win. Did she win when she PM'ed?
brangdon
08-02-2010
Charmaine led and won on the Cereal poster task in week 4. So she and Lee were the only two who got Gold Rush to win, up until task 9. She was also the last to face Brent; once he was gone Synergy won the next 4 tasks.

I thought she had a good win: she understood the core issue, namely that the poster needed at-a-glance simplicity.
apaul
10-02-2010
Dull task, Sean horrrrrrrendous and Lee mardy so it's just like most episodes of this series.
Jo09
10-02-2010
Looks like Charmaine's a goner!
thenetworkbabe
10-02-2010
Tarek trusts Lee - that should disqualify him from winning.
thenetworkbabe
10-02-2010
Trump fails logic 101 by sacking charmaine for being unable to lead Tareq and Tareq for being impossible to lead.
Jo09
10-02-2010
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Trump fails logic 101 by sacking charmaine for being unable to lead Tareq and Tareq for being impossible to lead.”

True, but he did also say it was down to poor leadership decisions. Like her doing her hair when She could have been working, stacking shelves for 5 hours and no marketing the day efore.
apaul
10-02-2010
A shame The Hair did not make it a triple sacking by getting rid of the wretched Lee. This episode we're promised a rough ride for Sean - the rougher the better.
Jo09
10-02-2010
Sorry but I like Lee.
Foxy Rhino
10-02-2010
You'd think the tasks would get more complicated towards the end. Yet another food selling task.
thenetworkbabe
10-02-2010
Michael wants to be fair - he is doomed.
Jo09
10-02-2010
Yep, Michael is clueless.
thenetworkbabe
10-02-2010
Michael gets the point what Lee did wrong but I suspect he is still doomed.
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