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gslam2
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Lol, mad...bad...and dangerous. That's our Barbara.”

I love Barbara when she gets bloodthirsty!

Her organising the troops and deciding how to attack the enemy in The Web Planet must be the highlight of that story.
chuffnobbler
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Just watched the first episode of The Romans. The Doctor cracks me up in this. ”

The Romans is brilliant, isn't it?! Some of it is laugh-out-loud funny, but some is a bit savage and shocking. That poor slave, about to be eaten by lions. Locusta the poisoner, dragged away screaming.

The Web Planet? Rather you than me ... :sleep:
chuffnobbler
09-03-2010
My last post not showing!
Why does that happen?!
CoalHillJanitor
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“I have just got the Space/Chase set. Not seen it yet but am looking forward to the "um, er" stammering Dalek, and the Dalek that puffs and pants as it climbs out of the sand dune. The new series would benefit from some of that ... ”

Finished The Chase last night and had to laugh (affectionately of course) at
Spoiler
'a couple of burnt cinders floating around in Spain... er, in space'
Tigger-Roo
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“The Romans is brilliant, isn't it?! Some of it is laugh-out-loud funny, but some is a bit savage and shocking. That poor slave, about to be eaten by lions. Locusta the poisoner, dragged away screaming.

The Web Planet? Rather you than me ... :sleep:”

The Doctor is like a totally different person to when he was first introduced. I remember being told how much he would change but this story is the first one that really brings that to the fore. I've never seen him chuckle so much.

The Web Planet arrived today. I'll try not to get too overexcited based on your post.
chuffnobbler
11-03-2010
The Doctor does chuckle a lot, in The Romans, doesn't he?! Maybe it's because Bill Hartnell found life easier doing a historical comedy, compared to sci-fi and special effects.

Don't operate any heavy machinery whilst watching The Web Planet ...
CoalHillJanitor
11-03-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“The Doctor does chuckle a lot, in The Romans, doesn't he?! Maybe it's because Bill Hartnell found life easier doing a historical comedy, compared to sci-fi and special effects.

Don't operate any heavy machinery whilst watching The Web Planet ... ”

He giggled at everything in that one, didn't he? Including people who were trying to kill him.
CoalHillJanitor
11-03-2010
Just a positive word for The Web Planet (which I've not seen) from Mark Ayres of the DW Restoration Team:
Quote:
“'The Web Planet' is a story that has been much-maligned down the years, due to its perceived cheapness. It was, however, one of the most expensive and ambitious serials of its time, and the production team really should be praised for trying something so audacious, even if it doesn't always come off.”

Though I suppose that doesn't address whether it's boring.
chuffnobbler
11-03-2010
Absoluetly: all praise to DW for a story with really enormous scope of imagination. In 47yrs of DW, it is the only story to have a 100% non-humanoid guest cast. The flying Menoptra, the battles between Menoptra and Zarbi, the various different races on the planet, the pools of acid ... all brilliant ideas that must have pushed production to its limits. It's a bit boring, though.
Tigger-Roo
22-03-2010
Well I did make it through The Web Planet but I must say it's my least favourite story so far.

I have also watched The Crusade which I loved. Why is it all the best stories have bits missing. Really like the historical stories and they seem to be the ones that got 'lost'.

Started The Space Museum today, but I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what's going on.

So far I have got that they jumped dimensions but how did they manage to be there already and how do they then manage to un-be there and arrive again whilst they are still there.

I've only watched the first episode mind, so hopefully it will become clearer as I go on.
CoalHillJanitor
22-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Well I did make it through The Web Planet but I must say it's my least favourite story so far.

I have also watched The Crusade which I loved. Why is it all the best stories have bits missing. Really like the historical stories and they seem to be the ones that got 'lost'.

Started The Space Museum today, but I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what's going on.

So far I have got that they jumped dimensions but how did they manage to be there already and how do they then manage to un-be there and arrive again whilst they are still there.

I've only watched the first episode mind, so hopefully it will become clearer as I go on. ”

After you get through it be sure to watch the 'Defending the Museum' extra... a nice 'apologia' for TSM.
Tigger-Roo
22-03-2010
Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“After you get through it be sure to watch the 'Defending the Museum' extra... a nice 'apologia' for TSM.”

Oh dear, that suggests I will have to get my head around something quite complex.
CoalHillJanitor
22-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Oh dear, that suggests I will have to get my head around something quite complex.”

No no, it's very short and just puts the serial in a new light by comparing it to, erm, existentialism or something... I forget exactly.

In terms of the 'how' it's not that complicated... think The Brink of Disaster.
Tigger-Roo
22-03-2010
Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“No no, it's very short and just puts the serial in a new light by comparing it to, erm, existentialism or something... I forget exactly.

In terms of the 'how' it's not that complicated... think The Brink of Disaster. ”

Ooh, I really liked that story. Hmm okay I'll definitely watch that bit then.
CoalHillJanitor
23-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“Ooh, I really liked that story. Hmm okay I'll definitely watch that bit then. ”

Sorry to be so confusing. I meant the story itself tells you what went wrong with the timestream and it's a bit reminiscent of The Brink of Destruction.

The DVD extra is about how the story is modern and existentialist or something.

I was typing sleepy yesterday. :yawn:
chuffnobbler
23-03-2010
I love the phrase "un-be-there", Tiggs! Not watched Space/Chase, yet. I hven't seen them for years. my emmory of Space Museum is that the first episode is pretty good, but the rest isn't. It's just "goodies" and "baddies" shooting at each other. Maybe I'll reassess on watching again.

The Crusade is a masterpiece, isn't it? Those early historicals are so overlooked, but are brilliantly done. Sucha shame that so much of the good stuff is gone, while yawns like The Space Museum are still knocking around. Mind you, if Space Museum was missing, maybe we'd all be saying it's tragic to have lost such an existentialist masterpiece ?!

Let us know your thoughtsa when you;re finished, Tiggs.

To bring this thread back to its start ... I met Derren Nesbitt (Tegana in Marco Polo) last night. What a nice chap. Happily signed the Marco Polo CD and said it brought back happy memories.
tingramretro
23-03-2010
I like The Space Museum, personally. Though it's difficult to imagine Vicki's hapless resistance fighter friend growing up to be merciless bounty hunter Boba Fett in the original Star Wars trilogy...
Tigger-Roo
24-03-2010
Loved the Doctor popping out of the Dalek.

And Ian, hero of the day.

Ian! Ian! Ian!

Couldn't help chanting as he took on the Moroks.

Just one more episode to go.
Tigger-Roo
24-03-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“I love the phrase "un-be-there", Tiggs! Not watched Space/Chase, yet. I hven't seen them for years. my emmory of Space Museum is that the first episode is pretty good, but the rest isn't. It's just "goodies" and "baddies" shooting at each other. Maybe I'll reassess on watching again.

The Crusade is a masterpiece, isn't it? Those early historicals are so overlooked, but are brilliantly done. Sucha shame that so much of the good stuff is gone, while yawns like The Space Museum are still knocking around. Mind you, if Space Museum was missing, maybe we'd all be saying it's tragic to have lost such an existentialist masterpiece ?!

Let us know your thoughtsa when you;re finished, Tiggs.

To bring this thread back to its start ... I met Derren Nesbitt (Tegana in Marco Polo) last night. What a nice chap. Happily signed the Marco Polo CD and said it brought back happy memories.”

Aww that's nice, glad he has happy memories of that story.

And sorry Gslam, I seem to have hijacked your thread but I don't really want to start another one.
chuffnobbler
25-03-2010
Ian and Barbara are outstanding characters. There's very few "adult" companions either in old or new Who, and Ian and Babs SHINE: intelligent, capable, mature, considered ... a shame (if inevitable) that the "adult companion" role was phased out.
Tigger-Roo
25-03-2010
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“Ian and Barbara are outstanding characters. There's very few "adult" companions either in old or new Who, and Ian and Babs SHINE: intelligent, capable, mature, considered ... a shame (if inevitable) that the "adult companion" role was phased out.”

I totally agree with you there. I absolutely adore Ian and Barbara. They work really well together and with the Doctor. They should do this more often. Look how well Donna worked.
tingramretro
25-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“I totally agree with you there. I absolutely adore Ian and Barbara. They work really well together and with the Doctor. They should do this more often. Look how well Donna worked.”

Likewise Liz Shaw, Steven Taylor and Sarah Jane Smith, not to mention Wilf Mott, and audios companion Evelyn Smythe. Older companions do tend to work well.
Tigger-Roo
25-03-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Likewise Liz Shaw, Steven Taylor and Sarah Jane Smith, not to mention Wilf Mott, and audios companion Evelyn Smythe. Older companions do tend to work well.”

Sarah Jane Smith goes without saying. Haven't really had a chance to get used to Liz Shaw and can't say I've ever seen an episode with Steven Taylor.

Have recently discovered Evelyn Smythe on the BF Audios and think she's just brilliant. My favourite pairing in the BF stories.
CoalHillJanitor
25-03-2010
Originally Posted by tingramretro:
“Likewise Liz Shaw, Steven Taylor and Sarah Jane Smith, not to mention Wilf Mott, and audios companion Evelyn Smythe. Older companions do tend to work well.”

Liz Shaw is definitely in my top five.
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“can't say I've ever seen an episode with Steven Taylor.
”

You will quite soon!
chuffnobbler
25-03-2010
Babs and Liz are my top two!
Steven is only round the corner for you now, Tiggs.
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