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Old 11-01-2010, 12:08
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Before i post these, i just want to say that there is no "official" source for this, unless you want to count my sister-in-law lol. She said she's got a magazine and it tells you what everyone gets out of Archie's will. She's bringing it to mine tomorrow, so i'll scan it and share it with you all...but apparantly:

Roxy - Gets the Queen Vic, but not Archie's money.
Peggy - Gets a picture of Her and Archie's wedding day.
Phil - Gets Eric's trophies.
Ronnie - Gets a silver pen
Glenda - Gets nothing.

The rest she didn't say, but she said Roxy gets the Vic for sure and the rest she was certain about. But when i get the magazine myself i'll scan it for you all.

Also, sorry if they've already been posted...
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Old 12-01-2010, 05:15
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Think that sounds fairly reasonable, to me!

Although a pen, lol, unless it has sentimental value, or maybe it'l get Ronnie "opening up" and writing a journal/diary of her thoughts/emotions and opening up? Doesn't sound too bad?

Glad Glenda get's nothing!

Phil with his dad's trophies, that's really 'sweet' in a way, or nice/kind, something along those lines, as i'm sure he looked up to his dad, and so having something of his, is nice, even through archie - although i don't know the whole story behind phil/eric - i didn't watch EE before 2002/


Aww... Peggy with only a photo.. LOVE IT!

Lol, she must have been expecting SO much more,


What about Billy though... I REALLY want him to get something... especially the house, as Archie "promised" it to him, would be sad to see him lose it, as he's always been connsidered not important - would be nice if he was noticed and had something good done for him, for once! x
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Old 12-01-2010, 05:26
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From what i read, Peggy is going to annoy me, as she is still treating it as her pub, despite it being Roxys. However, Roxy doesn't seem to be doing a good job. I mean firing Tracey, HOW DARE SHE!

Billy better get something, or if he doesn't, Roxy better let him stay in the house.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:49
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From what i read, Peggy is going to annoy me, as she is still treating it as her pub, despite it being Roxys. However, Roxy doesn't seem to be doing a good job. I mean firing Tracey, HOW DARE SHE!

Billy better get something, or if he doesn't, Roxy better let him stay in the house.
Agree about Peggy, i think she is going to be really annoying but i get a feeling that their will be a scene where roxy lets her know that she isn't the landlady anymore, as for Tracey she will be back, ee won't get rid of her, it will be more because Roxy is trying to prove a point to Peggy that she is calling the shots, no doubt she will realise she needs tracey and will get her back. It's interesting to see she is asking Chelsea to be a barmaid, nice to see Chelsea getting something decent, if she works in the vic she will be more central to the show.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:51
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Before i post these, i just want to say that there is no "official" source for this, unless you want to count my sister-in-law lol. She said she's got a magazine and it tells you what everyone gets out of Archie's will. She's bringing it to mine tomorrow, so i'll scan it and share it with you all...but apparantly:

Roxy - Gets the Queen Vic, but not Archie's money.
Peggy - Gets a picture of Her and Archie's wedding day.
Phil - Gets Eric's trophies.
Ronnie - Gets a silver pen
Glenda - Gets nothing.

The rest she didn't say, but she said Roxy gets the Vic for sure and the rest she was certain about. But when i get the magazine myself i'll scan it for you all.

Also, sorry if they've already been posted...
According to the mirror Roxy inherits everything, the vic, car lot, the house and archie's money. From the digitalspy episode summaries i don't understand why janine seems to think she is still going to be able to work at the car lot now roxy owns it, is she that deluded that she thinks she still has a right to work their!!!!
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:25
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I would have thought that as Peggy is still legally Archie's wife she has a claim on his estate whether or not he leaves her anything. She could contest the will and I am sure she would win. This is what they did in Coronation Street some years ago after Ivy died and didn't leave anything to her husband. He contested the will and was given a share.
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:28
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From what i read, Peggy is going to annoy me, as she is still treating it as her pub, despite it being Roxys. However, Roxy doesn't seem to be doing a good job. I mean firing Tracey, HOW DARE SHE!

Billy better get something, or if he doesn't, Roxy better let him stay in the house.
Well, to be fair, Archie got the pub through devious means a day before he died. I still don't think his pub is his to give and Roxy should've given it back. But that doesn't make good telly.

Roxy makes good telly as she is 100% NOT a business lady and has ZERO qualities to make a business a success. So for drama purposes, it makes sense. As a business woman and a Ronnie fan, I am annoyed. Only in the sense that I do feel it is inconsistent with archie's desire to pretend to treat his girls equally and yet another way to punish Ronnie. But if they gave it to Ronnie, she would have given ot back to Peggy and run the business well. Plus, this way, there is the chance Ronnie will go back to R&R and not be tied to the Vic. I can understand it, but I disagree it is a SHOCK.
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:31
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Agree about Peggy, i think she is going to be really annoying but i get a feeling that their will be a scene where roxy lets her know that she isn't the landlady anymore, as for Tracey she will be back, ee won't get rid of her, it will be more because Roxy is trying to prove a point to Peggy that she is calling the shots, no doubt she will realise she needs tracey and will get her back. It's interesting to see she is asking Chelsea to be a barmaid, nice to see Chelsea getting something decent, if she works in the vic she will be more central to the show.
The likes of Chelsea will not be more central to the show or anyone else just because of the Vic. Roxy would never get more airtime than Ronnie as Sam/Lacey etc... have always been considered the better actresses.
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:47
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The likes of Chelsea will not be more central to the show or anyone else just because of the Vic. Roxy would never get more airtime than Ronnie as Sam/Lacey etc... have always been considered the better actresses.
Are they better actresses though? It all depends on the scripts, personally don't care much for Ronnie's troubles or Staceys pregnancy, Roxy behind the bar is a joke.
They should give the pub to someone else.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:25
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The likes of Chelsea will not be more central to the show or anyone else just because of the Vic. Roxy would never get more airtime than Ronnie as Sam/Lacey etc... have always been considered the better actresses.
It doesn't always go to who is the better actress though, last year Cheryl ferguson has quite a lot of airtime and the 'who is the daddy' was deemed to be one of ee's biggest storylines, for me Cheryl Ferguson is not a great actress yet she was given a huge storyline and quite a lot of time on screen, by making Darren the dad it means Charlie Hawkins will also be given airtime when he also is not a great actor. It's about time Sam and Lacey took a back seat and more characters like Chelsea etc were given more storylines, Tiana is a good actress who deserves better and more storylines and by working behind the bar it usually means more time on screen. I'm looking forward to Jo Joyner returning already as it means she wouldn't really have had a huge storyline since she tried to bury max by her taking 7/8months off when she returns she will most likely be given a big storyline again because for me she is the most natural and convincing actress on the show and i think Tanya is being missed atm.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:32
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Well, to be fair, Archie got the pub through devious means a day before he died. I still don't think his pub is his to give and Roxy should've given it back. But that doesn't make good telly.

Roxy makes good telly as she is 100% NOT a business lady and has ZERO qualities to make a business a success. So for drama purposes, it makes sense. As a business woman and a Ronnie fan, I am annoyed. Only in the sense that I do feel it is inconsistent with archie's desire to pretend to treat his girls equally and yet another way to punish Ronnie. But if they gave it to Ronnie, she would have given ot back to Peggy and run the business well. Plus, this way, there is the chance Ronnie will go back to R&R and not be tied to the Vic. I can understand it, but I disagree it is a SHOCK.
In an interview Santer said people won't be shocked about who gets the vic but it will be a suprise. People aren't shocked as Roxy is a daddy's girl but i think people are suprised ronnie didn't get anything when she was supposedly his favourite deep down.

I think maybe ee want to take the vic in a new direction, when ronnie and roxy arrived and they ran the vic for 2/3 weeks, it was a lot more lively and fun and that was mainly down to roxy, i can't help but think maybe Bryan Kirkwood had a say in this as he will be taking over the show in a few weeks and him and Santer have been discussing how storylines should go, by putting roxy in charge it makes the place a bit more fun rather than being dowdy and depressed, which is what the critics hated about ee and they praised ronnie and roxy for the energy they bought to the show, both seem to have lost that vibrancy about them, more understandable with ronnie because the character has been through a lot of hard times, with roxy it was poor writing, they took away the comedy aspect of the character to try and make her a more rounded character something which she isn't, she won best newcomer at the NTA's because of the fact she was funny bubbly character, by giving her the pub hopefully it means they are starting to take her back to the way she was when she arrived - also it means christian behind the bar which i think is going to be brilliant..
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Old 13-01-2010, 06:09
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In an interview Santer said people won't be shocked about who gets the vic but it will be a suprise. People aren't shocked as Roxy is a daddy's girl but i think people are suprised ronnie didn't get anything when she was supposedly his favourite deep down.

I think maybe ee want to take the vic in a new direction, when ronnie and roxy arrived and they ran the vic for 2/3 weeks, it was a lot more lively and fun and that was mainly down to roxy, i can't help but think maybe Bryan Kirkwood had a say in this as he will be taking over the show in a few weeks and him and Santer have been discussing how storylines should go, by putting roxy in charge it makes the place a bit more fun rather than being dowdy and depressed, which is what the critics hated about ee and they praised ronnie and roxy for the energy they bought to the show, both seem to have lost that vibrancy about them, more understandable with ronnie because the character has been through a lot of hard times, with roxy it was poor writing, they took away the comedy aspect of the character to try and make her a more rounded character something which she isn't, she won best newcomer at the NTA's because of the fact she was funny bubbly character, by giving her the pub hopefully it means they are starting to take her back to the way she was when she arrived - also it means christian behind the bar which i think is going to be brilliant..
The problem was that th fun was a duo act and the pub takeover is Roxy only. They can bring back the bubbly side, but need to be realistic that Roxy would fail without help. Which means either Ronnie or Christian would need to essentially do all the managing/admin side. And I am FULLY against Ronnie doing that without being given an equal share. It makes a further dogsbody and adds further misery to the character of Ronnie to do that. It does make me wonder what is planned for the character of Ronnie as the estate being given to them both would have been a route I normally would have imagined, with Ronnie having given up R&R and her club dream seemingly.

At the end of the day, I dislike the character of Roxy. I liked her funny comments, but that has never taken away from her character being a spoilt little daddy's girl relying on handouts (which is what this is again). And she is digressing back by behaving exactly how you expect Roxy to behave; power hungry and selfish. from what I've read, I don't see a lot of people thinking funny roxy than selfish Roxy. Whatever way this plays out; still means the same for me. Roxy getting everything her sister wants again, which smacks Santers doing imo. It's further misery for Ronnie; dady didn't love her enough to give her any of the businesses that he knew she'd do a better job of running (what were Archie's words about Roxy; liability when it came to businesses!) The only thing I can think of is that Ronnie is going to get her half of R and r back and move back in with Jack.
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Old 15-01-2010, 02:03
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Ronnie was a good businesswoman, with R and R, and i think the least Roxy should do is give her a job at the vic, or share the stakes, and be running it with her, as she knows squat about business whereas ronnnie does

Poor ronnie though, she must feel SO left out, even though we knew she didn't get on with her dad, but for her to be left all this, and not shared with her, quite sad imo
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Old 15-01-2010, 03:42
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Agree about Peggy, i think she is going to be really annoying but i get a feeling that their will be a scene where roxy lets her know that she isn't the landlady anymore, as for Tracey she will be back, ee won't get rid of her, it will be more because Roxy is trying to prove a point to Peggy that she is calling the shots, no doubt she will realise she needs tracey and will get her back. It's interesting to see she is asking Chelsea to be a barmaid, nice to see Chelsea getting something decent, if she works in the vic she will be more central to the show.
Think Peggy's entitled to feel like that personally. Archie got the pub a day before he died through manipulation and through lies. Is the pub morally his? Or should the pub still be Peggy's? Besides, I thought that the agreement had a clause which Peggy could have contested but doesn't know about. Theortically though; the pub should still be Phil's and not Archie's to give in a will. I understand the money and the house, but I still believe the pub should have been given back to Phil, especially given that Phil (and Ronnie) gave up all their money due to archie's manipulation. Do they deserve nothing or should Roxy do the right thing?! ie. given that Archie manipulated the situation; shouldn't she give 50k and whatever other money Ronnie and Phil lost back to them (as in Archie giving it back). I personally think Roxy keeping everything and doing nothing to riht Archie's wrongs and callous behavings is selfish. Also, she has no business skills and therefore can't expect to run the pub with noone's help. So she deserves the inevitable bump back down to earth when it goes wrong and she CAN'T run the pub. She knows nothiing about business, management or anything besides pulling a pint and throwing a party.
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Old 15-01-2010, 03:45
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Ronnie was a good businesswoman, with R and R, and i think the least Roxy should do is give her a job at the vic, or share the stakes, and be running it with her, as she knows squat about business whereas ronnnie does

Poor ronnie though, she must feel SO left out, even though we knew she didn't get on with her dad, but for her to be left all this, and not shared with her, quite sad imo
Come on though. Ronnie ran the club. Would you, as ronnie, really be happy to be some employed barmaid for her sister who knows nothing about business. It's insulting for the character of Ronnie. Ronnie should be given a stake or just leave her sister to it, get a business elsewhere. I still think Roxy should give her some of the money at the very least to make up for the money she lost putting up Sam's bail.
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Old 15-01-2010, 07:40
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I watched it last night..Roxy got the pen and was pleased because she said she used to like it when she was a child, she also got a huge amount of money for Amy, put in trust till she is 21..but what was that all about money for Ronnies child? was the will made before Ronnie had the misscarriage?
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Old 15-01-2010, 07:51
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I watched it last night..Roxy got the pen and was pleased because she said she used to like it when she was a child, she also got a huge amount of money for Amy, put in trust till she is 21..but what was that all about money for Ronnies child? was the will made before Ronnie had the misscarriage?
I think it was stated by Billy when reading the will that the amount was for any future child that Ronnie may have.
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Old 15-01-2010, 10:14
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NOw this will prove Roxy is selfish. She inherits 3 million, carlot, his estate and the vic.

I think she could easily give the vic back to peggy. Its not like she can't buy another pub somewhere else.

I hope this causes a much needed rift between the mitchells as I can see Peggy going off Roxy big time.
I mean what is Roxy going to do with 3 million? Buy more shoes and extensions???
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Old 15-01-2010, 10:29
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NOw this will prove Roxy is selfish. She inherits 3 million, carlot, his estate and the vic.

I think she could easily give the vic back to peggy. Its not like she can't buy another pub somewhere else.

I hope this causes a much needed rift between the mitchells as I can see Peggy going off Roxy big time.
I mean what is Roxy going to do with 3 million? Buy more shoes and extensions???
Could Roxy just 'give' the vic back to Peggy like that though? I don't think she is selfish, lol she hasn't even got it yet lol.
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Old 15-01-2010, 10:56
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Im completely gutted tbh, the best possible outcome would have been Billy inheriting everything.
It would have upset the applecart so much and they could have done much more with the stroyline had he got it...just my opinion of course
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Old 15-01-2010, 11:06
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what did Billy get didnt catch what he said was it a stool
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Old 15-01-2010, 11:14
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Could Roxy just 'give' the vic back to Peggy like that though? I don't think she is selfish, lol she hasn't even got it yet lol.
I know, think people should wait until she gets the vic and see what she actually does with the money she inherits before assuming she isn't going to give any to Ronnie or Phil. Also why should she give the Vic back at the end of the day Archie ended up with it, he may have got it by behaving in a devious way but if Peggys daughter hadn't ran away then they wouldn't be in this position now, he leaves it to Roxy to run so she is going to do that. Also glad ee cleared up why he didn't leave anything to Ronnie and it was believable, even the money he left for any future children she may have she didn't want so imagine if he had he left her his estate she wouldn't have been interested at all he knows roxy would accept it, also peggy should just be grateful it is still in the family and not with Glenda or Janine!!!
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Old 15-01-2010, 11:16
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what did Billy get didnt catch what he said was it a stool
archie's house i think?
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Old 15-01-2010, 11:21
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what did Billy get didnt catch what he said was it a stool
Archie's bar stool that was shown at the beginning of the episode.

archie's house i think?
I thought the house got mentioned in with final allocation of assets.
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Old 15-01-2010, 11:25
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what did Billy get didnt catch what he said was it a stool
Archie's stool (the wooden, sit on type i hope ), and place at the end of the bar.
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