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Old 23-10-2014, 12:44
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It looks like LAMHE has been removed from G_MAN, and replaced with POP+1. POP+1 was on the SDN mux, but appears to have now become Tiny Pop.

I'm not in the NW today to confirm this with a TV, this is just remotely from a tvcard. If anyone else wants to confirm it properly and post to the changelog (linking discussion back to this thread) feel free.
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Old 23-10-2014, 14:25
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* Correction - POP+1 was on COM5/ARQA before moving to G_MAN

Digital UK industry listings confirms that POP+1 can now be found on LCN 127. Two spare LCN slots for childrens channels - is that OK?

So the Manchester local mux lineup is as follows:
50 Movies4Men +1
54 Heart TV
56 Capital TV
60 Fire Hit TV
67 Chart Show TV
127 POP+1

Is it permissible by Digital UK's rules for the following to happen:
50 Movies4Men +1
51 Heart TV
52 Capital TV
53 Fire Hit TV
54 Chart Show TV
127 POP+1

There was a reason why LCN 48 was left vacant for sometime, the above would release LCN 56, 60 and 67 to become vacant for use from any multiplex while G_MAN channels co-habit channels (51-53) used in Northern Ireland, NIMux/RNI_1.
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Old 23-10-2014, 14:30
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* Correction - POP+1 was on COM5/ARQA before moving to G_MAN
Thanks - yes ARQA not SDN - I was confused by Test on 790 being removed causing the SDN LCN table to change.
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Old 23-10-2014, 22:04
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Is it permissible by Digital UK's rules for the following to happen:
50 Movies4Men +1
51 Heart TV
52 Capital TV
53 Fire Hit TV
54 Chart Show TV
127 POP+1
That would make a lot of sense.
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Old 23-10-2014, 22:36
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That would make a lot of sense.
They seem to be against sharing LCNs between these muxes these days. With only two muxes it probably causes more problems than it solves, especially with the recent trend of moving channels between Manchester, local and national muxes, and/or launching related +1s on one or the other.
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Old 25-10-2014, 11:16
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The big question about the Greater Manchester Mux, is when (if ever) will Your TV be arriving in Manchester?
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Old 25-10-2014, 11:41
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The big question about the Greater Manchester Mux, is when (if ever) will Your TV be arriving in Manchester?
The two aren't related - Your TV has it's slot waiting over on L_MAN, it won't be appearing on the G_MAN mux that this thread is mostly about. There are details somewhere in the local mux threads about the must launch dates though I can't currently find them. From memory Your TV Manchester has to launch by a date in February 2015.
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Old 25-10-2014, 18:11
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Any one know why Chart Show does not start till 10pm on g_man, when its got a 24 hour video slot, bit strange showing a "programmes resume at 10pm" slide when it could broadcast all day like it does on Satellite?

Unless they are planning on using the daytime hours for another kids channel? Tinypop+1 maybe? or popgirl or kix?
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Old 10-11-2014, 19:16
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Looks like G_MAN has gone off air approx 18:45 this evening. No signal at all detected here. Or possibly I've got a very mux specific problem with my TV aerial - but it is probably G_MAN. Anyone else confirm?
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Old 10-11-2014, 22:37
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Looks like G_MAN has gone off air approx 18:45 this evening. No signal at all detected here. Or possibly I've got a very mux specific problem with my TV aerial - but it is probably G_MAN. Anyone else confirm?
Triple Hits Radio have got in touch confirming there's a power issue affecting the multiplex.

EDIT 22:48: G_MAN is back...
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Old 10-11-2014, 23:13
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Triple Hits Radio have got in touch confirming there's a power issue affecting the multiplex.

EDIT 22:48: G_MAN is back...
Thanks. Looks like the mux came back at approx 21:45. Not the first power problem they've had - see back to November 26th 2013 - page 16 of this thread. I guess they have limited backup systems in place.
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Old 11-11-2014, 14:08
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Thanks. Looks like the mux came back at approx 21:45. Not the first power problem they've had - see back to November 26th 2013 - page 16 of this thread. I guess they have limited backup systems in place.
If you ventured away from your computer screen once in a while Greebo, you might've noticed all the mast lights went off for 4 hours during this incident, too.
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Old 29-11-2014, 19:19
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FIRE HIT TV is currently frozen with a time stamp of 1:34 AM
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Old 07-12-2014, 14:51
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How do I Get these channels back? I had to do a factory reset on my box now I have lost them. I have lost them before but it's been a while and I can't remember how to get them back. I am aware the signal is weaker compared to other channels. I am in the Stockport Area. Thanks
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Old 07-12-2014, 17:31
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Do,a manual retune
UHF channel numbers here
http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/coveragec...dprpok7jb08m76
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Old 07-12-2014, 17:45
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I have done this several times but nothing shows up. I have received these channels perfectly for over a year. Did have same problem at some point in 2013. All I have done today is a factory reset on my box which forced me to retune.
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Old 07-12-2014, 18:04
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Have you done a manual tune by putting in the UHF numbers
Not a scanned tune ...

Otherwise check connections and keep the ariel lead away from HDMI,
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Old 07-12-2014, 18:07
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Doing a manual scan on C57 is a reasonable suggestion, but it will only help if the signal was below the detection threshold when the full scan was done, but has now returned enough to be found.

Did you check that a G_MAN channel was watchable immediately before you did the factory reset? Even then, coincidences do happen and you could have had something else degrade your signal just at the right moment to trick you.

There are lots of reasons why your signal could be lower than previously. The tx could be on reduced power (unlikely with G_MAN since it is so low to start with), atmospheric conditions could be against you (weather, trees, interference from another source), your aerial and/or cabling may be moved/damaged/water logged.

Since G_MAN is the most marginal to receive due to higher signal rate and much less error correction than L_MAN it is generally going to be the mux that shows up any subtle local faults first.
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Old 20-02-2015, 19:50
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FireHit TV on Ch60 has been broadcasting nothing but black screen for over a week now, all other channels on G_Man MUX (Heart TV/Capital/Pop+1/movies4men+1) have been broadcasting as usual, so it's not a fault with the MUX.

Clearly no one works at firehit TV, or monitors the channel output, as they have form in the past for broadcasting static videos for days on end, but as it's black screen now, maybe they have gone "belly up" so EPG 60 may be for the taking soon??
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Old 07-03-2015, 21:30
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Doing a manual scan on C57 is a reasonable suggestion, but it will only help if the signal was below the detection threshold when the full scan was done, but has now returned enough to be found.

Did you check that a G_MAN channel was watchable immediately before you did the factory reset? Even then, coincidences do happen and you could have had something else degrade your signal just at the right moment to trick you.

There are lots of reasons why your signal could be lower than previously. The tx could be on reduced power (unlikely with G_MAN since it is so low to start with), atmospheric conditions could be against you (weather, trees, interference from another source), your aerial and/or cabling may be moved/damaged/water logged.

Since G_MAN is the most marginal to receive due to higher signal rate and much less error correction than L_MAN it is generally going to be the mux that shows up any subtle local faults first.
The ERP of ch 57 is 1kw and it should be 10kw unless the modulation is QPSK .

Due to the number of channells in the mux it isn't modulating at QPSK and consequently apart from poor antenna radiation and high adjacent ch power causing problems the power is simply too low for adequate coverage.

To fix this should cost very little indeed and there isn't any cci issues in other areas through lifting up the ERP 10db, providing it is done as it should.
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Old 08-03-2015, 12:25
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G-Man isn't the most reliable of services, sometimes disappears until someone gets around to fixing it. It is OK most of the time in its designated service area which I'm just on the edge of. It was due to be turned off a while ago but Canis Media took it over as a sort of test bed to enable companies to asses their products viability. Picture quality leaves a lot to be desired, source material seems to umatic or similar often poorly converted analogue NTSC. Due to its low power you need a good outdoor aerial. The beam is cigar shaped towards Stockport. Adjacent high powered channels don't bother my Sony TV, can't speak for other brands.
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Old 25-07-2015, 18:34
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Hello

Please can we have an update on the contents of this mux? SIDs, PIDs etc included please?

Also, what about the Manchesdter version of the local mux on channel 56? I can see Meseyside one but not the Manchester one. Just wondered is there any difference with the SIDs and TSID etc.

Thanks
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Old 04-08-2015, 11:50
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I notice from Ofcom's monthly licensing update that Fire Hit TV's terrestrial TV service is no longer licensed:

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-bro...updates/072015

I see Digital UK still lists Fire Hit TV for channel 60, but I am aware those in the coverage area of the Manchester local multiplex have reported the channel not doing much over the past few months. Can anyone confirm whether the service is still live?
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:11
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I notice from Ofcom's monthly licensing update that Fire Hit TV's terrestrial TV service is no longer licensed:

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/tv-bro...updates/072015

I see Digital UK still lists Fire Hit TV for channel 60, but I am aware those in the coverage area of the Manchester local multiplex have reported the channel not doing much over the past few months. Can anyone confirm whether the service is still live?

Still just showing a blue screen.
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:47
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Still just showing a blue screen.
Thanks.

Sounds like the blue screen needs to be removed! Would free up Freeview channel 60 for something else.
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