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#476 |
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Sounds like the blue screen needs to be removed! Would free up Freeview channel 60 for something else.
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Seconded - Fire Hit TV is still technically broadcasting, however only a blue screen of video and no audio.
Current pidscan of the mux: Code:
dvbsnoop V1.4.50 -- http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/ --------------------------------------------------------- Transponder PID-Scan... --------------------------------------------------------- PID found: 0 (0x0000) [SECTION: Program Association Table (PAT)] PID found: 16 (0x0010) [SECTION: Network Information Table (NIT) - actual network] PID found: 17 (0x0011) [SECTION: Service Description Table (SDT) - actual transport stream] PID found: 18 (0x0012) [SECTION: Event Information Table (EIT) - other transport stream, schedule] PID found: 20 (0x0014) [SECTION: Time Offset Table (TOT)] PID found: 32 (0x0020) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 256 (0x0100) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 777 (0x0309) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 1000 (0x03e8) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 1001 (0x03e9) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 1002 (0x03ea) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] PID found: 1795 (0x0703) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 2329 (0x0919) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 2831 (0x0b0f) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 2832 (0x0b10) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] PID found: 2833 (0x0b11) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 3884 (0x0f2c) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 3885 (0x0f2d) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] PID found: 4602 (0x11fa) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 4603 (0x11fb) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] PID found: 4899 (0x1323) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 4900 (0x1324) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] PID found: 8190 (0x1ffe) [unknown] PID found: 8191 (0x1fff) [stuffing] Code:
General ID : 29697 (0x7401) Complete name : /tmp/mcr.ts Format : MPEG-TS File size : 28.5 MiB Duration : 12s 609ms Start time : UTC 2015-08-04 11:43:42 End time : UTC 2015-08-04 11:43:42 Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 18.1 Mbps Network name : North West Original network name : UK Digital Terrestrial Television Video #1 ID : 32 (0x20) Menu ID : 30145 (0x75C1) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, Matrix : Custom Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12 Codec ID : 2 Duration : 12s 520ms Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 fps Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Top Field First Compression mode : Lossy Time code of first frame : 13:53:30:12 Time code source : Group of pictures header Video #2 ID : 1001 (0x3E9) Menu ID : 30401 (0x76C1) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, Matrix : Default Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15 Codec ID : 2 Duration : 11s 480ms Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 500 Kbps Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 fps Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Bottom Field First Compression mode : Lossy Time code of first frame : 00:00:51:15 Time code source : Group of pictures header Video #3 ID : 2831 (0xB0F) Menu ID : 29825 (0x7481) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, Matrix : Custom Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12 Codec ID : 2 Duration : 12s 40ms Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 10 000 Kbps Width : 704 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate : 25.000 fps Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Top Field First Compression mode : Lossy Time code of first frame : 13:40:12:23 Time code source : Group of pictures header Video #4 ID : 3884 (0xF2C) Menu ID : 30209 (0x7601) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, Matrix : Custom Format settings, GOP : Variable Codec ID : 2 Duration : 12s 160ms Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 2 000 Kbps Width : 544 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Top Field First Compression mode : Lossy Video #5 ID : 4602 (0x11FA) Menu ID : 30017 (0x7541) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, Matrix : Custom Format settings, GOP : Variable Codec ID : 2 Duration : 12s 520ms Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 2 000 Kbps Width : 544 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Top Field First Compression mode : Lossy Video #6 ID : 4899 (0x1323) Menu ID : 30337 (0x7681) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : Yes Format settings, Matrix : Custom Format settings, GOP : Variable Codec ID : 2 Duration : 12s 400ms Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps Width : 544 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Top Field First Compression mode : Lossy Audio #1 ID : 1002 (0x3EA) Menu ID : 30401 (0x76C1) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Codec ID : 3 Duration : 12s 609ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 128 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -8h 27mn Stream size : 197 KiB (1%) Audio #2 ID : 2832 (0xB10) Menu ID : 29825 (0x7481) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Codec ID : 4 Duration : 12s 408ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 128 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 31.7 Mbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -8h 23mn Stream size : 194 KiB (1%) Language : English Audio #3 ID : 3885 (0xF2D) Menu ID : 30209 (0x7601) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Mode : Joint stereo Codec ID : 4 Duration : 12s 480ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 128 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 138 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : 5h 36mn Stream size : 195 KiB (1%) Language : English Audio #4 ID : 4603 (0x11FB) Menu ID : 30017 (0x7541) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Mode : Joint stereo Codec ID : 4 Duration : 12s 480ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 128 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 138 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : 5h 36mn Stream size : 195 KiB (1%) Language : English Audio #5 ID : 4900 (0x1324) Menu ID : 30337 (0x7681) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Mode : Joint stereo Mode extension : MS Stereo Codec ID : 4 Duration : 12s 480ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 31.0 Mbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : 10h 19mn Stream size : 292 KiB (1%) Language : English Menu #1 ID : 777 (0x309) Menu ID : 29825 (0x7481) Duration : 12s 497ms List : 2831 (0xB0F) (MPEG Video) / 2832 (0xB10) (MPEG Audio, English) Language : / English Service name : mov4men+1 Service type : digital television Maximum bit rate : 221761600 UTC 2015-08-04 00:40:00 : en:Death Tunnel / en:Five coeds spend the night in an abandoned hospital haunted by the ghosts of former patients in this horror. (2006) / movie/drama / / 01:45:00 / Menu #2 ID : 2329 (0x919) Menu ID : 30017 (0x7541) Duration : 12s 503ms List : 4602 (0x11FA) (MPEG Video) / 4603 (0x11FB) (MPEG Audio, English) Language : / English Service name : CAPITAL TV Service type : digital television Maximum bit rate : 167160800 UTC 2015-08-04 00:00:00 : en:The Big Top 40 / en:The Big Top 40 is radio's most listened to countdown...and you can watch it on Capital TV too! Who have you made number 1? / show/game show / / 03:00:00 / Menu #3 ID : 256 (0x100) Menu ID : 30145 (0x75C1) List : 32 (0x20) (MPEG Video) / 33 (0x21) (MPEG Audio) Service name : FIRE HIT TV Service type : digital television Maximum bit rate : 2908800 UTC 2015-08-04 02:00:00 : en:Back at 8am / en:Back at 8am / undefined / / 05:00:00 / UTC 2015-08-04 07:00:00 : en:Non Stop Fire / en:Rise with Fire's Biggest Hits. / show/game show / / 03:00:00 / UTC 2015-08-04 10:00:00 : en:Wonderhits / en:Take your self back with Massive hits from the 90's to now. / show/game show / / 00:30:00 / UTC 2015-08-04 10:30:00 : en:Fresh Hits / en:Favorite not on yet? Tweet @firehittv. / show/game show / / 00:30:00 / Menu #4 ID : 1795 (0x703) Menu ID : 30209 (0x7601) Duration : 12s 480ms List : 3884 (0xF2C) (MPEG Video) / 3885 (0xF2D) (MPEG Audio, English) Language : / English Service name : Heart TV Service type : digital television Maximum bit rate : 167160800 UTC 2015-08-04 03:00:00 : en:More Music Variety / en:Playing the best variety of songs you know and love from the past 30 years / show/game show / / 02:00:00 / Menu #5 ID : 2833 (0xB11) Menu ID : 30337 (0x7681) Duration : 12s 484ms List : 4900 (0x1324) (MPEG Audio, English) / 4899 (0x1323) (MPEG Video) Language : English Service name : POP+1 Service type : digital television UTC 2015-08-04 06:00:00 : en:Mona The Vampire / en:A sinister Cyborg Phantasm causes a disaster with the world of electrical appliances. S02 Ep09. / children's/youth programmes / / 00:15:00 / Menu #6 ID : 1000 (0x3E8) Menu ID : 30401 (0x76C1) List : 1001 (0x3E9) (MPEG Video) / 1002 (0x3EA) (MPEG Audio) Service name : Chart Show TV Service type : digital television UTC 2015-08-04 00:30:00 : en:Hottest New Entries / en:Check out the hottest new videos fresh on Chart Show right now! / show/game show / / 00:30:00 / |
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#478 |
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Under the re-allocation rules, would this be offered to CSC to move Chart Show TV closer to True Entertainment, or would it go to ITV4+1 (the closest PSB)?
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(i) Firstly, to any public service channel on a higher LCN than that which is in question (see paragraph 5.5 of this Policy); then if it remains vacated: If you find the terms higher/lower confusing (because 1 is highest on the EPG, but has the lowest number), The Freesat EPG has similar/same principles and explains it more detail with this worked example:(ii)Secondly, to existing associated channels (as defined under paragraph 6.1 ) already on the platform at LCNs higher than the vacated LCN, in the following way: - Firstly, to a channel which is associated with the channel which is immediately above the vacated LCN; - Secondly, to a channel which is associated with the channel which is immediately below the vacated LCN; - Thirdly, to a channel which is associated with the channel which is two positions above the vacated LCN; - Fourthly, to a channel which is associated with the channel which is two positions below the vacated LCN; And so on for up to five positions above and below the vacated LCN; and then if it remains vacated: (iii)Finally, to any new associated channel (as defined under paragraph 6.1) launching on the platform. Quote:
310 - Bob's Movies Channel Provider - Bob's Movies Ltd ("Bob")
311 – Bob's Movies 2; Channel Provider – Bob's Movies Ltd 312 – Jill's Movies; Channel Provider – Jill's Movies Ltd ("Jill") 313 – Jill's Movies 2; Channel Provider – Jill's Movies Ltd 314 – Movies Gold; Channel Provider – Metal Movies Limited ("Metal") 315 – Fresh Movies; Channel Provider – Fresh Movies Limited ("Fresh") Jill's Movies 2 is removed from the Freesat platform and EPG number 313 becomes vacated. FREESAT would apply the following order of priority in order to allocate EPG number 313. For the avoidance of doubt, none of the movies channels listed above are public service channels, nor has EPG number 313 been reserved by any channel provider following the removal of Jill's Movies 2. . -EPG number 313 would first be offered to Jill, the channel provider for Jill’s Movies (312), the channel that is immediately above vacated EPG number 313. Assuming Jill did not want to launch an Associated channel... -EPG number 313 would then be offered to Metal, the channel provider for Movies Gold (314), the channel that is immediately below the vacated EPG number 313. |
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Under the re-allocation rules, would this be offered to CSC to move Chart Show TV closer to True Entertainment, or would it go to ITV4+1 (the closest PSB)?
I have asked several young people if they watch the channels on it, most don't know what I am talking about. In the internet age a soggy set of channels which needs a good roof top aerial to get it is a non starter. I assume Canis Media pay very little for the service. If it was QPSK with fewer channels it might reach more people. |
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ITV4+1 wouldn't want it, coverage is poor and picture quality abysmal.
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ITV4+1 wouldn't want it, coverage is poor and picture quality abysmal.
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Only as abysmal as the sky channels they're acquired from.
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They were referring to the channel number (LCN) - not the multiplex space in Manchester itself.
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Do the channels on this mux use a fixed bitrate of 2Mb/s?
Heart and Capital TV on satellite peak at about 3Mb/s during fast videos so the DTT output will always look a bit worse if it can't go any higher than 2mb/s. Movies4Men looks terrible on all platforms though, that isn't a DTT specific problem. |
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Sorry I meant Movies 4 Men not Men and Motors.
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Looks like Fire has disappeared completely now.
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Looks like Fire has disappeared completely now.
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Hello. Just to clarify, do you mean channel 60 isn't on the EPG anymore?
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Looks like Fire has disappeared completely now.
http://www.a516digital.com/2015/08/m...l-offline.html |
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(Thanks to everyone who replied here or emailed me.)
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Hello. Just to clarify, do you mean channel 60 isn't on the EPG anymore?
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Looks like Fire has disappeared completely now.
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Looks to me like the video PID (32) and PMT (256) have been removed since my last post - audio had already gone, presumably that dropped automatically when its input feed became invalid.
The LCN table entry still exists across all muxes, as does the service table entry and EPG data. Presumably removing the PMT, audio and video is the simplest option to satisfy the regulators even though it leaves us with a dead channel until someone else takes up the slot. |
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FIRE HIT TV has now been removed from the LCN and Service name tables.
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FIRE HIT TV has now been removed from the LCN and Service name tables.
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Originally Posted by media15
Satellite & Additional Freeview Soon
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This is interesting: http://www.media15.tv/client-fire.html
Looks like Fire were intending to expand. I wonder what happened? Not the best client list for Media15: they also have The Africa Channel - the channel that's been broadcasting a black screen on satellite for the past month. |
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ShowBiz TV
A new stream is up and running - ShowBiz TV on LCN 80.
That brings G_MAN back up to 6 video streams again. |
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So that's why Talking Pictures launched on LCN81. Another "gap" for the non-Mancunians!
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Chart Show TV now on LCN 60
Chart Show TV moved from LCN 67 to LCN 60 at about 12:20 today.
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mov4men+1 on LCN 50 has just left G_MAN
mov4men+1 on LCN 50 has just left G_MAN and moved to COM7. G_MAN now down to 5 video streams.
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