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Lizzy11268
13-01-2010
Originally Posted by geordiegump:
“I have to agree!

Alright...he goes a bit OTT at times but I find his 'pantomime villain' act pretty funny most of the time and he does say a lot of things that are true but the others just wouldn't mention.

His comments about Sharron being 'like a tree' and having 'angry arms' were a good example.

I hope she took notice because I do think she could be good...a few bllet classes would help her no end.

Incidentally, has she always been so thin or has she lost a lot of weight?”

I think she used to be "bulkier" but I think she was always fairly willowy!

Jason takes the boo's in good part most of the time as well....I find that nice.
jill1812
13-01-2010
Originally Posted by samiskim:
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Whereas Craig Revel Horwood can be perceived as being nasty - he does know what he is talking about and gives constructive criticism whereas Mr Nasty just makes horrible remarks for the fun of it. Some other members of the panel of judges looked shocked at some of his remarks and why - because they were totally uncalled for. Programme makers may think this is acceptable but in my book it is not, especially when the man himself is not known for his work on the ice but is only well-known for having a mouth like a wasp's ar*e.

I have tremendous respect for anyone who has the guts to learn to skate. Unfortunately Jason Gardner lost my respect a long time ago - pure poison.”

In seven series of Strictly CRH has never made a constructive remark, he is poison, he looks at contestants like they are beneath him.

I think Jason is harsh but fair, Sharron does look wooden and Hayley did look too contrived. In five series I've never disagreed with him.
winenroses
13-01-2010
It is not really fair to say that Jason is. He is incapable of being fair, because he knows bog all about skating technique/difficulties affecting presentation and performance. In addition, he does not judge in a proper manner, for example commenting on a person's age (Aggie) or costume, which is down to the wardrobe department not the celeb, or viciously about build or physique (Kelly Holmes). This is not 'fair' or relevant comment.

You may like him which is fair enough. But he isn't fair enough himself. Sharron actually spent more time on the ice i.e. skating and not held by her partner. There is the saying 'walk before you can run'. I'm sure she could have been swing aroung on a trapeze or high wire which would have been showy, but not skating, which is what they should be concentrating on for the first show.

I'm not all that bothered about Sharron and no way is she a favourite of mine, but if we are talking about fairness, it helps to know a little bit about ice skating. Jason should have aquired more knowledge than he has by now. He is not supposed to be completely clueless about ice skating. Hasn't learnt much and is proud of his ignorance.
CaroUK
14-01-2010
Jason's all about performance and although you would think that he would have picked up some skating knowledge over the 4 years DOI has been running he really doesn't seem to have got hold of much.

He has always gone for the showier performances -(eg Bonnie in Series 1) which look good to a non skater but completely lack any SKATING content. Bonnie looked fantastic in her routines - but that was because she spent most of them looking elegant (due to her dance training) being carried around or lifted by Matt rather than skating by herself.

What I don't get is the "West End choreographers'" obsession with the amount of progress competitors in these shows should make in just a few weeks. Craig Arlene and Bruno keep saying that a celeb hasn't developed as much as they should have given that its wee X of the show... you would think that as professional dancers with YEARS of training in their own field of dancing behind them, they would appreciate how far some celebs HAVE come in a matter of weeks.

The celebs who get to the end stages on DOI and SCD in the main have achieved miracles in a few weeks. I went to weekly dancing lessons for years and can say that the likes of Ricky W, Alesha and Chris H are/ were far better after just a few weeks than I was after years... I'm sure its the same with skating. You could SEE Emily, Tana and Sinitta (in the skate off) being hauled around by the pros rather than skating themselves

So much of learning to skate is being competent at the basics first. Its far more important to learn how to stay upright and move confidently forwards and backwards than it is to remember to smile or have "happy arms"

Sharron's basic SKATING was good and confident - she needs to spend more time on her performance, granted - but she was streets ahead of Emily and Tana and it was criminal that she ended up equal with Tana on the judges leaderboard. If she had had just an extra 0.5 from Jason - I have a feeling that she would have been safe from the skate off this week
jill1812
14-01-2010
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
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Sharron's basic SKATING was good and confident - she needs to spend more time on her performance, granted - but she was streets ahead of Emily and Tana and it was criminal that she ended up equal with Tana on the judges leaderboard. If she had had just an extra 0.5 from Jason - I have a feeling that she would have been safe from the skate off this week”

But two of the three skating judges mark Sinitta higher so they must've thought her skating was better than Sharron's.
SheShe
14-01-2010
Originally Posted by Carman:
“Is it my imagination, or does Jason get asked more often for his opinion than any of the other judges? Why? He's not head judge is he?”

No of course it's not your imagination, Carman! He gets asked virtually every time. How many times did we hear from Robin (who IS head judge) on Sunday? Once? Twice at most.
SheShe
14-01-2010
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“In seven series of Strictly CRH has never made a constructive remark, he is poison, he looks at contestants like they are beneath him.

I think Jason is harsh but fair, Sharron does look wooden and Hayley did look too contrived. In five series I've never disagreed with him.”


I really disagree with that very strongly!

Craig has made LOADS of constructive comments and the dancers pay a lot of attention to him because they know he knows what he is talking about and respect him accordingly.

I thought Jason's comment about Sharron being non-human was way OTT. No way could she take anything positive from that!
UnrealityTV
15-01-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
“I thought Jason's comment about Sharron being non-human was way OTT. No way could she take anything positive from that!”

He didn't say she was 'non-human' though, he said something about her looking like she'd been possesed by the spirit of a tree.

For most of the routine she'd been stock rigid with her arms sticking out like branches. He was bang on, she did look exactly like she'd been possessed by the spirit of a tree! What do you take from that comment that's positive? You realise that you look stiff and unnatural, you loosen up and make the thing flow.

I think JG talks a load of old codswallop on a lot of occasions, but this time he was right on the money.

But there, in this day and age, if you say anything that isn't fawning praise about anyone then you're NASTY! "You will be taken from here and sentenced to death by a thousand simpering social workers..." :yawn:
Tyjet
15-01-2010
Originally Posted by UnrealityTV:
“He didn't say she was 'non-human' though, he said something about her looking like she'd been possesed by the spirit of a tree.”

At the end of his comment he said he'd be happy if she even managed to look human on the ice.

Way too far imo.
CaroUK
15-01-2010
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“But two of the three skating judges mark Sinitta higher so they must've thought her skating was better than Sharron's.”

In the first round - yes Sinitta was confident, skated well and got the lift right.... and was rightly marked higher than Sharron....

However - if you watch her in the skate off - she was a totally different skater - very wobbly, struggled to remember the routine, and in several places clearly being pushed and pulled into position by Andrei. Her confidence seemed to be absolutely shot at the prospect of being in the skate off.

Sharon was also different in the SO - she came out and did her routine perfectly - and so much better that even Jason saved her... as did the 3 skating experts!
soapgirlhere
15-01-2010
We definately hear more from Jason than the other judges because he makes good tv. Robin is the head judge but to be honest you wouldn't know, they hardly ever come to him and he votes last in the skate-off and therefore his vote rarely counts for anything - what the hell.
winenroses
15-01-2010
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“In the first round - yes Sinitta was confident, skated well and got the lift right.... and was rightly marked higher than Sharron....

However - if you watch her in the skate off - she was a totally different skater - very wobbly, struggled to remember the routine, and in several places clearly being pushed and pulled into position by Andrei. Her confidence seemed to be absolutely shot at the prospect of being in the skate off.

Sharon was also different in the SO - she came out and did her routine perfectly - and so much better that even Jason saved her... as did the 3 skating experts!”

You have hit the nail on the head. Sinitta lost on more than the frog lift in the dance off as her skating was poor, while Sharron's was better, tree-like or not. Jason may not have noticed, but tthe other judges would. He merely remarked that 'Mistakes are not allowed' - whatever that means.
Tiger Rose
17-01-2010
Robin mentioned on GMTV that it was more than the frog lift as to why he saved Sharron in the Skate Off.

I think they made the right call.
Dancing Girl
18-01-2010
Oh guys, it is all scripted and Jason is just doing a pantomine baddie. Everyone says he is great fun in the bar after the show.! He is just trying to do a Craig on Strictly and it seems the TV companies think we are all thick and there has to be a Mr Nasty on each panel. Same with the constant fighting in X Factor with the judges or Brendan going off in a huff and having a fit because of something or other, it generates headlines and that is why they have people llike Jason. I am sure each and every Celeb KNOWS BEFOREHAND what Jason is going to say............That is why Holly is told to get his opinion so often. Remember the so-called confrontation on Friday between Sharon and Jason........nothing happened although he called her a tree and was not sure she was human!!!!!!
tabithakitten
18-01-2010
Sure, pantomime audience + pantomime judge = great entertainment right?

Wrong, at least to a large extent.

It can be amusing to hear some blunt analogies providing they relate to the performance but it's not necessary after every/most routine(s).

The producers are not giving the audience credit for appreciating anything a bit more subtle. They assume that we want obvious, in your face stuff and seem to refuse to accept that this might not be the case. I'm wondering if it's a vicious circle. Producers assume that audience wants the obvious because they're too lazy/thick to appreciate anything subtle, audience gets lazy/thick because they get accustomed to being fed pantomime drivel and so the producers make things even more obvious and in your face.

Personally I haven't quite reached the stage where I am so hard of thinking that I need everything shoving in my face with a big explanatory placard next to it but maybe I'm in the minority (although I think and hope not).
winenroses
18-01-2010
I blame Simon Cowell! Since he started, it set a trend for the ubiquitous pantomime baddie as a lot of the public seem to like it and or have become conditioned to it.

It's gone past ridiculous now though and is an insult to the intelligence.

It's obvious on here that many people do not want to listen to the crap Jason spouts. We know it's all a set-up and we're being force-fed manure, and we're up to here with it.

Maybe there could be a 'character' on the panel whose personality could amuse and entertain us. Jason doesn't cut it.

ETA Your post has just appeared with mine Tabitha and our thoughts are in line with each other.
Dancing Girl
21-01-2010
Well the baddie routine seems to grab headlines and that is what it is all about. Headlines and viewing figures. Anyone who thinks that these celebs have no idea what Jason is going to say is silly. They all know what is coming and play the game. That is why the so called confronation between Sharon and Jason on Friday was such a wet blanket (although Coleen tried to make it sound exciting!!) because they know it is just a panto routine!! Honestly, the audience boos when Jason comes on...............next it will be shouts of "Look Behind You"!!! LOL Yes they do insult the intelligence of the viewer but we all watch the show and some people actually vote so it obviously works!!
cnbcwatcher
21-01-2010
Originally Posted by sazzleperkins:
“Because he's the most controversial. And that's it! Scores low, makes nasty comments, therefore makes good TV (according to the DOI PTB).”

IMO he's the Simon Cowell of DOI, rarely has anything positive to say about any of the skaters.
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