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Alesha wants her own chatshow...
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dancingfan
28-01-2010
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“I know what you mean. When I hear someone speaking less than perfect 'Queens English' (which, in reality nobody actually does no matter how perfect they think they are) I feel threatened - like she's going to climb out the TV screen and attack me. I feel quite offended too - it's as though she's shouting profanities at me when she says 'was' instead of 'were'.

Why does it have to be 'gangsta-english'? Is it because she's mixed race? It can't just be a bad habit picked up from a young age? It can't just be the dialect of the area where she was raised?

Blimey. Some people these days ...”

I don't know if it is "gangsta" English - me and mine just think she sounds silly - for example when she quoted Dizzie R whilst giving feedback to I think (cannot remember might have been Ricky) it brought the house down - very funny moment then the BBC giving her a duet with Brucie!!! That must have hurt - Al' D down with the kids
BuddyBontheNet
28-01-2010
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“If I didn't then I wouldn't have written my post. You really give yourself a big tick don't you?”

I'm not sure what that means, but I am sorry for what I said as it was out of order.
thenetworkbabe
28-01-2010
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“Alesha was a guest on This Week not long after finishing Strictly (it was that show which filmed her dancing with Vince Cable) - she came across as someone with opinions, but whose opinions were sadly ill-informed. She'd need a LOT of coaching before she could approach an issue-based show rather than a lifestyle/magazine type affair.”

Market is a bit full? Angela Griffin is more able to discuss a wide range of topics and has vast acting experience . Charlotte Church can be friendly or catty and is a good actress for her sketches and she can sing and not look outclassed with anyone. If you watch Kate Walsh on Live from Studio Five you have someone who is very good at saying the right thing, very organised and has a first class degree in subjects that ought to be useful interviewing people - Not sure where Alesha scores on those fronts.
Veri
30-01-2010
What happened to the Alesha whose music career was so important to her, and doing do well, they she might not return to SCD because she was pursuing it?
thenetworkbabe
31-01-2010
Originally Posted by Veri:
“What happened to the Alesha whose music career was so important to her, and doing do well, they she might not return to SCD because she was pursuing it? ”

To be fair no one (or almost no one) these days is allowed to have a long singing career or a second chance to get going again. Its worse for the girls. Just look at what the succesful and still successful girl singers from the early 2000s are doing - chasing dinosaurs (Hannah Spearitt) winning masterchef/touring with Ronan and doing War of the Worlds (Liz McClarnon) , presenting on TV (Mylene) starring in Blood Brothers (Melanie C) judging DOI and DJing on radio (Emma Bunton) doing soaps and opera singing shows (Kym Marsh) doing musicals and now Emmerdale (suzanne Shaw) Doing a chat show (Charlotte Church) ............ thats before you get to all the singers who have done SCD, DOI or reality shows.

She needs to do something and if she can't act its either got to be presenting or chatting......
laur_od
31-01-2010
You don't get a long pop career, you stick around by branching out and being versatile as shown by thenetworkbabe's list, the talented girls stay in the business and in the limelight just in different forms. It is quite interesting though that you have one girl whose successful out of Sclub (Rachel hasnt really done much since strictly), one from atomic kitten, none from steps and all three from Hear'say...
SideshowStu
31-01-2010
I think the simple reason that pop careers are so short these days is that it's a market dominated by image rather than substance. How many 'artists' out there now are actually musicians who write their own material and have something to say beyond the usual 'love you forever' / 'you broke my heart' type fluff? An awful lot of them seem to be little more than models with very average voices who are more interested in making good money than unforgettable music.
ewoodie
31-01-2010
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“The artists you name speak acceptable English whereas Ms Dixon is apparently only proficient in Gangsta-English and seems to revel in it. I can only speak for myself and say I find it threatening and offensive. When I switch my television to the BBC I haven't paid my licence fee to watch some-one who sounds like a half-educated gangster's moll interviewing anyone - let alone Barack Obama.”

Alesha might be ok if her chat show was just light entertainment and she interviewed show-biz people. I think she should leave Barak Obama to political interviewers like Paxo.
aleshadixonNET
31-01-2010
Originally Posted by Veri:
“What happened to the Alesha whose music career was so important to her, and doing do well, they she might not return to SCD because she was pursuing it? ”

She's busy recording her next album, as well as preparing for the Brit Awards where she's been nominated for best single. I'm assuming that's the Alesha you're on about?!
ewoodie
02-02-2010
Originally Posted by aleshadixonNET:
“She's busy recording her next album, as well as preparing for the Brit Awards where she's been nominated for best single. I'm assuming that's the Alesha you're on about?!”

The Brit awards!! What THE Alesha who sells jewellery at Argos?!
BuddyBontheNet
02-02-2010
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“The Brit awards!! What THE Alesha who sells jewellery at Argos?!”

Do you mean her jewellery range is on sale at Argos, as well as on TV and online?

In case you are still confused, it is the Alesha who the Variety Club was proud to announce as the ambassador of the 2010 Gold Heart campaign.
ewoodie
03-02-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Do you mean her jewellery range is on sale at Argos, as well as on TV and online?

In case you are still confused, it is the Alesha who the Variety Club was proud to announce as the ambassador of the 2010 Gold Heart campaign. ”

Nope I'm not confused. But you are.

What the Alesha who is nominated for a BRIT Award?
Who has her jewellery range on sale at Argos, as well as on TV and online? Real superstar Beyonce must be furious!!!

Alesha's ok but she hasn't got superstar kudos yet. I really do hope she gets there though. She ought to go and storm the US.
thenetworkbabe
03-02-2010
Originally Posted by SideshowStu:
“I think the simple reason that pop careers are so short these days is that it's a market dominated by image rather than substance. How many 'artists' out there now are actually musicians who write their own material and have something to say beyond the usual 'love you forever' / 'you broke my heart' type fluff? An awful lot of them seem to be little more than models with very average voices who are more interested in making good money than unforgettable music.”

Not sure it matters how good you are. Much of your original (largely female) buying audience doesn't want to be seen supporting someone they supported years before - its like wearing old shoes or last year's outfit. Newer or bigger is what they want. Many people get one good album worth of sales and then their second doesn't sell and they get dropped. Radio tends to play whats new and the money goes promoting the latest new thing. Alesha's done better than most, but she may not have the other option either of selling in Europe where they sometimes buy whats good or in an older style even if it can't sell at home.
BuddyBontheNet
03-02-2010
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Nope I'm not confused. But you are.

What the Alesha who is nominated for a BRIT Award?
Who has her jewellery range on sale at Argos, as well as on TV and online? Real superstar Beyonce must be furious!!!

Alesha's ok but she hasn't got superstar kudos yet. I really do hope she gets there though. She ought to go and storm the US.”

What makes you think I'm confused?

I didn't say Alesha was a superstar. And what's Beyonce got to do with it?

So Alesha has been nominated for a Brit Award (Beyonce hasn't btw, even in the international categories). What is the problem with this?

So Alesha does have a jewellery range. What is the problem with this?

During a 60 seconds interview in the Metro newspaper, Alesha was asked -

"What are your plans for 2010?
I’m going back in the studio to record my second album, I’ll probably do another documentary, there’s Strictly and I’m in discussions to do my own talk show.

Who would be your dream guest for your talk show?
Barack Obama. I wouldn’t talk to him about politics. I’d ask him about food and what he does in his spare time."

What is the problem with this?

I just don't get it.
gorlagon
03-02-2010
Oh dear! This thread is going a bit t*ts up, isn't it?

At the risk of repeating myself: I like Alesha as a person; I liked her as a competitor on Strictly; I was neutral about her as a judge on Strictly; I can't see her making a good fist of being a chat show host by what I've seen of her on TV so far because I feel her talents lie in projecting outwards rather than drawing inwards.
ewoodie
03-02-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“What makes you think I'm confused?

I didn't say Alesha was a superstar. And what's Beyonce got to do with it?

So Alesha has been nominated for a Brit Award (Beyonce hasn't btw, even in the international categories). What is the problem with this?

So Alesha does have a jewellery range. What is the problem with this?

During a 60 seconds interview in the Metro newspaper, Alesha was asked -

"What are your plans for 2010?
I’m going back in the studio to record my second album, I’ll probably do another documentary, there’s Strictly and I’m in discussions to do my own talk show.

Who would be your dream guest for your talk show?
Barack Obama. I wouldn’t talk to him about politics. I’d ask him about food and what he does in his spare time."

What is the problem with this?

I just don't get it.”

Simple answer: A previous poster was trying to say THE Alesha has great cachet/prestige by saying she has been nominated for a BRIT award. My reply says but do you mean the Alesha who sells jewellery at Argos? What a juxtaposition!!!!
*Janz*
03-02-2010
Mariah Carey designed and sold a range of jewellery for Claire's Accesories - does that make her any less prestigous?
ewoodie
03-02-2010
Originally Posted by *Janz*:
“Mariah Carey designed and sold a range of jewellery for Claire's Accesories - does that make her any less prestigous?”

No, but my original reply was to the poster who seemed to think Alesha was 'prestigious' because she was nominated for a BRIT Award. She must be delighted with the nomination but it doesn't make her an elite, as was the suggestion in that post. Hence my mention of Argos and the juxtaposition.........

Actually, I don't blame her for diversifying. She should make the most of her name and fame.
nancy1975
03-02-2010
Well as all that most of us can afford these days in the way of jewellery is from Argos, there's nothing wrong with that!
SideshowStu
03-02-2010
Argos? Too upmarket for me. I make my own jewellery out of breakfast cereal...

It's one of the reasons I don't go out much
*Janz*
03-02-2010
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“No, but my original reply was to the poster who seemed to think Alesha was 'prestigious' because she was nominated for a BRIT Award. She must be delighted with the nomination but it doesn't make her an elite, as was the suggestion in that post. Hence my mention of Argos and the juxtaposition.........

Actually, I don't blame her for diversifying. She should make the most of her name and fame.”

maybe i misunderstood the intentions behind your post, but the original poster who mentioned the Brits was replying to someone asking:

"What happened to the Alesha whose music career was so important to her, and doing do well, they she might not return to SCD because she was pursuing it?"

with them replying that she was busy preparing for her new album and the Brits. i'm not sure why prestige or anything was brought into it, but hey - we all take away different things from the same thing, that's just the way of the life.
aleshadixonNET
04-02-2010
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“A previous poster was trying to say THE Alesha has great cachet/prestige by saying she has been nominated for a BRIT award. My reply says but do you mean the Alesha who sells jewellery at Argos? What a juxtaposition!!!!”

Instead of referring to a 'previous poster' I'd much rather you actually dug up the actual quote where I say she was prestigous for being nominated. Of course, you'd have great difficulty in doing so, because I never said that.

I was actually pointing out the obvious that her music career is very much alive. It seems that if Alesha is on TV then everyone is sick of seeing her, but when she keeps a low profile everyone reckons her career is down the pan.

So Mr Prestigous, are you too good for Argos? There's always the online shop where you can pick up the pricier items at around 200 quid a pop.

Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Alesha's done better than most, but she may not have the other option either of selling in Europe where they sometimes buy whats good or in an older style even if it can't sell at home.”

Alesha has done extremely well in Europe and Japan, some might even say better than the UK. She's had Top 10's in many countries, and a number 1 in Spain. She's got quite a high profile in a few countries, so I'd say she stands a very good chance of continuing her work there if the UK doesn't work for her anymore.
gorlagon
04-02-2010
I'm not denigrating Alesha's achievements, but I fail to see how/if jewellery (up or downmarket) endorsement and BRIT recognition qualify her for chat show hosting.

What I have seen of Alesha that is relevant to that, makes me feel she would be bloody awful at it.

What I have seen of Alesha that is relevant to giving a performance, makes me feel she is bloody good at it.
yelsel
04-02-2010
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“I'm not denigrating Alesha's achievements, but I fail to see how/if jewellery (up or downmarket) endorsement and BRIT recognition qualify her for chat show hosting.

What I have seen of Alesha that is relevant to that, makes me feel she would be bloody awful at it.

What I have seen of Alesha that is relevant to giving a performance, makes me feel she is bloody good at it.”

Nobody was claiming it qualified her for chat show hosting, as usua,l somebody hi jacked the original post for their own agenda.

I dont really know what you may have seen of Alesha that is relevant to chat show hosting, so it is impossible to say if she would be good or not.....
SideshowStu
04-02-2010
I haven't seen Alesha hosting anything but I did see the documentary she presented about airbrushing of models and I was impressed tbh. Her interest was obvious and she made some good points without becoming the focus of the show - just what a good presenter should do. How she'd fare as a chat show hostess I don't know, but she'd have to be truly atrocious to be worse than the likes of JR imo
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