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Alesha wants her own chatshow...
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gorlagon
04-02-2010
Originally Posted by yelsel:
“I dont really know what you may have seen of Alesha that is relevant to chat show hosting, so it is impossible to say if she would be good or not.....”

Almost everything I've seen Alesha do - other than present a performance, ie singing and competing on Strictly - has led me to think she'd be poor at chat show hosting. These include:

* Judging on Strictly, where she seemed unable to empathise with non-talented competitors.

* CiN hosting, where she talked over the fundraisers and ended up denying them their deserved few seconds of limelight.

* The single parent documentary, where she over-prompted and ended up feeding her interviewees answers, rather than drawing out their own original opinions.

* Her guesting on This Week, where she did a fine job of presenting her own mini-film but was a real fish out of water during the subsequent discussion - she couldn't think on her feet during a developing conversation at all.

NONE of this is to say that I dislike Alesha. I LIKE Alesha. I simply think she's not suited to chat show hosting, and would do better to forget this particular ambition. I'm sure she has many other avenues to explore.
puddytat
04-02-2010
Originally Posted by petertard:
“...and wants to interview Obama.”

Alesha, what was you thinkin? Not a good idea till you polish up your grammar a bit..
xkatieloux
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by gorlagon:
“Almost everything I've seen Alesha do - other than present a performance, ie singing and competing on Strictly - has led me to think she'd be poor at chat show hosting. These include:

* Judging on Strictly, where she seemed unable to empathise with non-talented competitors.

* CiN hosting, where she talked over the fundraisers and ended up denying them their deserved few seconds of limelight.

* The single parent documentary, where she over-prompted and ended up feeding her interviewees answers, rather than drawing out their own original opinions.

* Her guesting on This Week, where she did a fine job of presenting her own mini-film but was a real fish out of water during the subsequent discussion - she couldn't think on her feet during a developing conversation at all.

NONE of this is to say that I dislike Alesha. I LIKE Alesha. I simply think she's not suited to chat show hosting, and would do better to forget this particular ambition. I'm sure she has many other avenues to explore.”

I was going to mention that, it was absolutely embarrassing! She was trying to hurry them along in an abysmally unsubtle way. If (god forbid) she did get her own show, it would have to be pre-recorded as she can't handle live!

As for the whole idea of getting a chatshow...nope, sorry, can't see it working, she hasn't got the gravitas for such a role, plus of course she wouldn't be able to do the whole "you was" routine. The thing is that she was WAY more popular before she started to attempt to become a "TV personality"...it just isn't working for her.
yelsel
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by xkatieloux:
“I was going to mention that, it was absolutely embarrassing! She was trying to hurry them along in an abysmally unsubtle way. If (god forbid) she did get her own show, it would have to be pre-recorded as she can't handle live!

As for the whole idea of getting a chatshow...nope, sorry, can't see it working, she hasn't got the gravitas for such a role, plus of course she wouldn't be able to do the whole "you was" routine. The thing is that she was WAY more popular before she started to attempt to become a "TV personality"...it just isn't working for her.”

Linking a live show like CIN is a very very difficult job for anyone, the presenters have producers screaming in their ears to wrap up ,and they go into most of the links without any preparation or advance information, it is done very much on the hoof under the most demanding conditions. I dont think it is any indicator of anyones ability to do the job of a chat show host, all chat shows are thoroughly researched and scripted and unless it is a political chat show , then it's always usually harmless. I think Alesha would be absolutely fine in this environment.
Bonnie96
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by yelsel:
“Linking a live show like CIN is a very very difficult job for anyone, the presenters have producers screaming in their ears to wrap up ,and they go into most of the links without any preparation or advance information, it is done very much on the hoof under the most demanding conditions. I dont think it is any indicator of anyones ability to do the job of a chat show host, all chat shows are thoroughly researched and scripted and unless it is a political chat show , then it's always usually harmless. I think Alesha would be absolutely fine in this environment.”

Even the revered Sir Terry continually stumbles on CIN but it is all looked upon as a night of fun with a message behind it rather than being about the presenters' abilities.
yelsel
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by Bonnie96:
“Even the revered Sir Terry continually stumbles on CIN but it is all looked upon as a night of fun with a message behind it rather than being about the presenters' abilities.”

Absolutely agree with you, it is the biggest night of mayhem on TV, just surviving it is a testimony
HeidiB
09-02-2010
It is not just Alesha. It is all these 'judges' who don't know much about the skill they are marking.

Apart from Alesha there is Emma Bunton on 'Dancing on Ice' and that footballers wife, Louise Redknapp? on 'So you think you can dance'.

They are all useless.
Ignazio
10-02-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Chat show hosts in the UK generally have researchers who work for the show. It would be their job to make sure the host was well informed.

Poor grammar does not mean someone is unintelligent and anyone who think Alesha is unintelligent is laughable.

I've got better things to do with my time than beat my head against the brick wall of Alesha bashers on here (Gorlagon I am not addressing you), so I'm leaving my contribution on here at that.”

Hi Buddy - I'm not a paid up member of The Alesha Bashers Club - I simply don't like her style, for reasons I've quoted 'many a time and oft.'

If she does get her own chat show, at least we'll have the option of using the remote to switch off or switch over; unlike SCD when, if we want to watch the programme, we also have to endure Ms.Dixon.
yelsel
10-02-2010
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Hi Buddy - I'm not a paid up member of The Alesha Bashers Club - I simply don't like her style, for reasons I've quoted 'many a time and oft.'

If she does get her own chat show, at least we'll have the option of using the remote to switch off or switch over; unlike SCD when, if we want to watch the programme, we also have to endure Ms.Dixon.”

Just take a look at the posts on this forum and the BBC forum and you will see that everyone has different likes and dislikes on the show, some love Alesha, some loved Arlene, some hate Bruno and some love him, same with the celebs and dancers. It is impossible for anyone to devise a tv show that will please everyone. Alesha is very popular witha cross section of the viewers and i'm sure she would be just as popular on a chat show, maybe just not everones cup of tea, nobody will force you to watch her so why not just let her get on with it without pre determining what it would be like..
BuddyBontheNet
10-02-2010
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Hi Buddy - I'm not a paid up member of The Alesha Bashers Club - I simply don't like her style, for reasons I've quoted 'many a time and oft.'

If she does get her own chat show, at least we'll have the option of using the remote to switch off or switch over; unlike SCD when, if we want to watch the programme, we also have to endure Ms.Dixon.”

True Ignazio.


LOL! Reading this thread you'd think a chat show was going to happen, rather than it being the subject of a simple question in an interview!
Ignazio
10-02-2010
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Hi Buddy - I'm not a paid up member of The Alesha Bashers Club - I simply don't like her style, for reasons I've quoted 'many a time and oft.'

If she does get her own chat show, at least we'll have the option of using the remote to switch off or switch over; unlike SCD when, if we want to watch the programme, we also have to endure Ms.Dixon.”

Originally Posted by yelsel:
“Just take a look at the posts on this forum and the BBC forum and you will see that everyone has different likes and dislikes on the show, some love Alesha, some loved Arlene, some hate Bruno and some love him, same with the celebs and dancers. It is impossible for anyone to devise a tv show that will please everyone.”

Your response puzzles me - when did I suggest otherwise.
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“Alesha is very popular witha cross section of the viewers and i'm sure she would be just as popular on a chat show, maybe just not everones cup of tea, nobody will force you to watch her so why not just let her get on with it without pre determining what it would be like..”

Read my post again - especially this bit:
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“at least we'll have the option of using the remote to switch off or switch over;”

HeidiB
10-02-2010
After a bit of thought I have realised that a chat show of Alesha's own would be wonderful, provided she left SCD in order to do it.

We could then once more enjoy Strictly. Her fans would be able to watch the chat show and see even more of her.

Everyone would be happy.
Ignazio
10-02-2010
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“After a bit of thought I have realised that a chat show of Alesha's own would be wonderful, provided she left SCD in order to do it.

We could then once more enjoy Strictly. Her fans would be able to watch the chat show and see even more of her.

Everyone would be happy.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQ
yelsel
11-02-2010
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“After a bit of thought I have realised that a chat show of Alesha's own would be wonderful, provided she left SCD in order to do it.

We could then once more enjoy Strictly. Her fans would be able to watch the chat show and see even more of her.

Everyone would be happy.”

I'm sure you would still find something to moan about !!!!
HeidiB
11-02-2010
You can talk Yelsel!

I was only trying to suggest a scenario which would make everyone happy.

But that would be asking too much, I suppose.
yelsel
11-02-2010
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“You can talk Yelsel!

I was only trying to suggest a scenario which would make everyone happy.

But that would be asking too much, I suppose.”

There you go again.... Lots of people are perfectly happy with the scenario as it is......
Dorabella14
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“After a bit of thought I have realised that a chat show of Alesha's own would be wonderful, provided she left SCD in order to do it.

We could then once more enjoy Strictly. Her fans would be able to watch the chat show and see even more of her.

Everyone would be happy.”

Here's an even better thought. Different angle. Way to make everybody happy.

Let's (1) keep Alesha, Bruno etc(but not Bruce, he really is past it) on SCD but (2) refresh all the viewers.

After all, with 60 million people living in the UK, and 10 - 11 million watching the last few series, surely we should review these 10 - 11 million viewers, discard half of them and recruit new ones who are emigrating from SimonCowelland.

The newbies could be delighted, the oldies could be tolerant and we could all write letters to the Daily Fail and The Sno asking them to shoot or garotte their useless journos who offer up endless servings of rehashed old news just to bolster up a new photo.

We might even get new opinions on the forums - or at least the old ones served up as though they were bright new, which would be good for a laff.

I'm not really putting all the "tired" and "disgusted" viewers on the scrapheap, I'm just drawing their attention to all the other channels available on digital, and to the number of theatres, cinemas, sports grounds, fitness centres and restaurants that are still in business for live custom on Saturdays.

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dancingfan
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by yelsel:
“There you go again.... Lots of people are perfectly happy with the scenario as it is......”

I am not Give Alesha her own tv channel if that what she wants!!!
Just get her off SCD - please- then as Heidi says those who want to watch her can and those of us who don't can enjoy SCD again with appropriately qualified judges - Alesha just does not cut it - let her develop her talents else where
BuddyBontheNet
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by dancingfan:
“I am not Give Alesha her own tv channel if that what she wants!!!
Just get her off SCD - please- then as Heidi says those who want to watch her can and those of us who don't can enjoy SCD again with appropriately qualified judges - Alesha just does not cut it - let her develop her talents else where ”

Just wanted to say that going by the viewing figures last time, they may not have gone up, but they didn't drop that much either. So the vast majority of viewers either didn't mind the changes, put up with the changes or liked them. Doesn't look like Alesha had much effect one way or the other, so I doubt if your voice will be heard.
katmobile
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Just wanted to say that going by the viewing figures last time, they may not have gone up, but they didn't drop that much either. So the vast majority of viewers either didn't mind the changes, put up with the changes or liked them. Doesn't look like Alesha had much effect one way or the other, so I doubt if your voice will be heard.”

She didn't exactly have the Cheryl Cole effect either which was why she was hired? I didn't like her as a judge either but watched anyway as I don't watch for the judges which is something they and the producers don't get. I hope she doesn't come back as a judge and (I hope they get Karen in instead) don't know if she'll be any good as a chat show host but it can't bomb any worse than Lily Allen's did so she may as well have a go at it.
yelsel
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“She didn't exactly have the Cheryl Cole effect either which was why she was hired? I didn't like her as a judge either but watched anyway as I don't watch for the judges which is something they and the producers don't get. I hope she doesn't come back as a judge and (I hope they get Karen in instead) don't know if she'll be any good as a chat show host but it can't bomb any worse than Lily Allen's did so she may as well have a go at it.”

I am fed up hearing the "Cheryl Cole effect" that is not why they hired her. Maintaining viewing figures on any long running series is very difficult and i'm sure the figures would have been much the same regardless of changes. As you mentioned you dont watch it for the judges, it's about the quality of the celebs and to be honest i think the celebs last series were poorer than in most of the previous series, If they get celebs that connect with the audience then the figures should remain around the same or even increase, it didnt happen this year , so it's easy to blame the newcomer. It is just going to get harder each year to attract celebs, mostly i would have thought due to the outrageous press attention the series gets and the disgusting attempts by the tabloids to dig for any dirt on anyone who takes part. Why would anyone with a half decent career put themselves at risk of a media backlash ?
katmobile
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by yelsel:
“I am fed up hearing the "Cheryl Cole effect" that is not why they hired her. Maintaining viewing figures on any long running series is very difficult and i'm sure the figures would have been much the same regardless of changes. As you mentioned you dont watch it for the judges, it's about the quality of the celebs and to be honest i think the celebs last series were poorer than in most of the previous series, If they get celebs that connect with the audience then the figures should remain around the same or even increase, it didnt happen this year , so it's easy to blame the newcomer. It is just going to get harder each year to attract celebs, mostly i would have thought due to the outrageous press attention the series gets and the disgusting attempts by the tabloids to dig for any dirt on anyone who takes part. Why would anyone with a half decent career put themselves at risk of a media backlash ?”

Look I liked Alesha as a contestant but it was fairly obvious she wasn't going to work as a judge as she didn't have the experince to even make it sound like she knew what was talking about. It's not a case of blaming the new girl - yes the contestants weren't all that - but some of her comments to Craig Kelly and Laila were beyond the pale. Arlene could be harsh but there was occasionally some constructiveness behind the critisism.
BuddyBontheNet
12-02-2010
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“She didn't exactly have the Cheryl Cole effect either which was why she was hired? I didn't like her as a judge either but watched anyway as I don't watch for the judges which is something they and the producers don't get. I hope she doesn't come back as a judge and (I hope they get Karen in instead) don't know if she'll be any good as a chat show host but it can't bomb any worse than Lily Allen's did so she may as well have a go at it.”

I don't know if Cheryl was popular from day one, but my point was really that Alesha clearly didn't make viewers switch off in droves, that's all.
yelsel
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“Look I liked Alesha as a contestant but it was fairly obvious she wasn't going to work as a judge as she didn't have the experince to even make it sound like she knew what was talking about. It's not a case of blaming the new girl - yes the contestants weren't all that - but some of her comments to Craig Kelly and Laila were beyond the pale. Arlene could be harsh but there was occasionally some constructiveness behind the critisism.”

Again just your opinion, personally i dont think she said anything worse than any of the other current or past judges, Alesha also made plenty of constructive criticisms, just some people tend to focus on the negative as it suits there argument.
katmobile
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I don't know if Cheryl was popular from day one, but my point was really that Alesha clearly didn't make viewers switch off in droves, that's all.”

I suspect that there's an element of not wanting to cut off your nose to spit your face that keeps people watching if they don't agree with some of the changes. It would take a lot to make me stop watching SCD.

Originally Posted by yelsel:
“Again just your opinion, personally i dont think she said anything worse than any of the other current or past judges, Alesha also made plenty of constructive criticisms, just some people tend to focus on the negative as it suits there argument.”

Of course it's my opinion and they are like bumholes everyone's got one but I don't recall anyone saying anything as personal as 'Zoe is gone and I had to endure that' (which Karen Hardy said caused a stunned reaction at her court in the ballroom next door so it's not just Alesha hatus on DS who thought it was a bit much - and Karen must have heard a fair few negative judges's comments in her time) or 'you're getting on my wick'. I don't think it's vindictiveness on her part it's not quite having the experience to know where the line is and get carried away with her emotions in the case of Craig Kelly - however miffed you are someone better went instead of them you can't vent it at the contestant it's not their fault but I imagine it can be hard not to do that. For the record I don't think she's a talentless bimbo and I will her to do well but her judging stint was ill-advised and I think it would be better if everyone just realised that.

It's not slagging someone off to say they weren't good at a particular thing - I wish some of Alesha's fans would get that.
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