OMG!! Someone should have warned me - I nearly lost my breakfast (where's the vomit smilie when you need one)

Exactly how I feel *vomit smilie* whenever I see those gruesome Kate pics.

it takes two to fight-as well you know.

Have her feet , err...........gruesome more ?.................

I am not the one throwing false accusations here, you are. Have the decency to admit you are wrong and apologise. I forgot some kate fans don't know the meaning of those words decency and apologize

I will be ignoring your posts from now on, if you keep throwing lies about ,about other fm's, when the arguements /debates on here don't go your way and you start to clutch at those straws..

I used to enjoy your posts when I could decipher them, but you are beginning to sound as bitter as some of the other Kate fans on here now. I can see you are not going to admit you are in the wrong on this one, you are now on my ignore list , especially as you are starting to direct your posts at certain members of this forum, lacking respect for your fellow fm's

I was wrong and I apologise.
Slate clean -just like Alex and Kate that night eh?

I do not have time to read posts generally that do not relate to Kate and get annoyed when they clutter up.
(you could have moved it to another thread but I know that is difficult)
If you had to suffer the abuse I get I am sure you would understand.

It seems some posters are more equal than others and get away with things and when they are challenged they run to teacher.

I knew there was a soft porn photo of Alex Sibley somewhere. Swing was kind enough to find and post the photo for me.
The only thing I got wrong was I thought it was in his 2002 calendar..........easy mistake to make when you are not an obssessed fan and dont have a photo album of him to check where the soft porn photo came from.
I could have started a thread about this soft porn photo and asked his fans if this was the only soft porn photo of him or are there more.?
I don't believe in clogging up the BB forum with silly threads about BB contestants, especially failed and axed ones like Alex Sibley.

An easy mistake to make Avolon. I now realise I have seen that soft porn photo of Alex before - just put it to the back of my mind for obvious reasons.

Hmmm nice buns swing - thanks

Alex's aren't bad either

Well, Alex's are buns of the highest order - I haven't made my mind up about Swing's yet. More bagel-like perhaps?

You didnt THINK it was the calendar you INSISTED it was, and you haven't the decency to admit it, so you opt for the backtracking as usual rather than apologise, even insisting I post the pics when I asked you if you wanted me to.

It's the sort of thing you expect of some Kate fans though

This time you have really made a balls up with those posts

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To suggest this photo of Alex changing into football gear ,
could be called "soft porn. " is ridiculous.
On that basis , thousands of men and boys ,
are engaged in "soft porn."
every time they play football.
.
If , however , Kate fans consider themselves right ,
what do they consider the photos of Kate ,
which Moomin found ?
You know ,
the ones where a completely naked man sits astride her ?
and then there`s the one ,
where his p*nis is just in front of her mouth ?
How then , must they describe the two lots of photos ,
for that " Porno Mag. " Loaded.
( ESPECIALLY those where she has been accused elsewhere ,
of posing suggestively as a schoolgirl ,for the gratification of perverts.)
These much more EXPLICIT shots must then be taken
by Kate Fans as
" KATE`S HARD CORE PORN PHOTOS."
Perhaps Avalon might like to start a thread with that title?

Personally ,
I consider them just the sort of smut ,
that I would expect of Kate,
though not at all pornographic.
But her fans , who have taken
Alex`s photo as " soft porn "
must then , by comparison ,
take Kate`s ones ,
as " HARD PORN."
Its " Neither or Both " ,
and I say " Neither " .
Kate`s Fans can`t take Alex`s photo one way
whilst taking Kate`s photos another way.
Kate herself ,
would understand their predicament .
On BB3 she recalled,
"TAKING IT BOTH WAYS "
(Classy Girl. )

just ignore him-he is an old fogey

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Are you agreeing with the " soft porn " description ?
I thought you were appealing for
moderation ,from BOTH sides ,
a short while ago.
A little consistancy from you would not go amiss.

Not sure on definitions-clearly if you want to condemn Kate then you have to include pretty much every girl in their 20's in-front of camera in the whole entertainment industry.Sorry bit garbled-everyone has to do it sorry.Is that your point? You cannot just single Kate out because you do not like her.well you can and have bit it weakens your point because then you are just not being fair.
Posed pictures are different to photos taken in anightclub setup as well.


yes I was-did not get me very far did it-as evidenced by some posting today.

I have kept quiet about Alex pictures that were taken BEFORE he went into the house and are not suitable for discussion.Nuff said.

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Don`t mean to be rude ,
but I cannot decipher this post.
Could you please try again.
( and by the way , my point was that I.M.O.
NEITHER Kate`s nor Alex`s photos were " porn.")
I thought that you being the most reasonable of Kate`s fans , would have agreed.

Classy

And when are the Alex 'Angels' going to apologise to the forum for misleading and lying about his career prospects? He was going to be a tv superstar for years remember... :yawn:

Don't try and turn it round, we no more hoped and wished for Alex to have a successful career on tv, as he was fabulous every time he appeared on tv, ( and you don't know what he has lined up anyway, so why not stop speculating on it ), than Kate fans wished for her, even after her dire performances on tv, and her subsequent axing, and than other fans of their favourite exbber's wished for them.

The calendar issue was brought up by a Kate fan and with continued insistance, it was an out and out lie by that Kate fan, who then tried unsuccessfully to backtrack .They insisted on pics being produced to the effect and not having the decency to apologise when caught out in the lie I tried to bring the issue to an end once and for all by showing the requested Alex calendar pics, and to prove the Kate fan lied. I was waiting an apology to the Angels, but as suspected none was forthcoming.

So for some of those few over obbsessive Kate fan's left, trying to twist the subject round at every oppourtunity, why not stop digging yourselfs a deeper hole and let it drop now

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I am not surprised
that "Ava -liar -on ",
has not apologised .
I am not surprised
( though a little saddened )that other Kate fans have not dis -associated themselves from the lie .
Nor have ,
the " Closet Kate Fans " who pretend to be "Alex supporters " or,
" Onlookers "
After all ,
Kate lacks scruples and integrity .
What then , should we expect of her admirers ?

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By the way, Susann , I have complained to D.S. ,
that their Moderators ,
by not supporting your exposure of a lie,
have not been doing their job properly ,
if at all.
So if I get banned you will know why .

You said that last year susann..I am still waiting. don't tell me his 'pipeline' is blocked

As for speculating - the 'Angels' do that best.

Have not really followed it all here-I am not an expert on Alex.

Clearly this calendar is post BB3 and contains no bottom shots.

But there were photos that were taken pre BB3 that were supposedly of Alex showing bottom.

I am sure Avalon would admit he/she was wrong about the calender-if maybe the experts on Alex could clear up the confusion about the actual bottom shots(I am sure they were tasteful and can also be posted)

Presumably they are on his website somewhere-or maybe he himself can shed light on them-after all it seems to have become a vital issue on this forum for some unknown reason.

(I would have preferred any talk on bottoms to have been about Katie's bottom-this is after all a thread on Kate-seems Alex fans cannot be polite)

Click on swingaleg's link^ ... It is not tasteful. It is tacky and absolutely disgusting.