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Old 27-01-2010, 10:07
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she says she will give a special prize to whoever makes sure she gets the most votes for best british single. isnt this blatent cheating? she is encouraging her fans to multi vote.
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Old 27-01-2010, 10:32
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its not really cheating, just pure desperation.. which is funny because she seems immortal at the moment, even with average songs.. which weren't written or produced by her. anyone could have sang "Fight For This Love" and it wouldn't have been a hit but because it's Cheryl Cole it is. Same will probably apply to the Brits.
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Old 27-01-2010, 10:35
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Sad C..W
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Old 27-01-2010, 10:41
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This is hardly out of the ordinary most pop acts do the same thing. Everyone on this board is acting as if she's the first.
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Old 27-01-2010, 10:41
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cheating is the path to success
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Old 27-01-2010, 10:43
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It is a bit desperate, and I feel that the winner should be somebody who actually wrote their own song, no matter how crap it is. Therefore Dizzee Rascal, Pixie Lott, La Roux, Tinchy Stryder, Taio Cruz, Alesha Dixon or Lily Allen should win.

I'm personally keeping my fingers crossed for Lily or Alesha.
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Old 27-01-2010, 10:57
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It is a bit desperate, and I feel that the winner should be somebody who actually wrote their own song, no matter how crap it is. Therefore Dizzee Rascal, Pixie Lott, La Roux, Tinchy Stryder, Taio Cruz, Alesha Dixon or Lily Allen should win.

I'm personally keeping my fingers crossed for Lily or Alesha.
but SOMEONE wrote that song, why should they lose out

should a song be discounted from the "best single" because the person who wrote it didn't sing it?

some of the best songs in history have been written and perfromed by different people
Pavarottis famous Nessun Dorma, he didn't write that
Sinatra didn't write My Way
should those songs not have won their respective awards because the singer and writer are not the same person
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:11
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but SOMEONE wrote that song, why should they lose out

should a song be discounted from the "best single" because the person who wrote it didn't sing it?

some of the best songs in history have been written and perfromed by different people
Pavarottis famous Nessun Dorma, he didn't write that
Sinatra didn't write My Way
should those songs not have won their respective awards because the singer and writer are not the same person
I sort of both agree and disagree with you.. but with Sinatra, Pavarotti, they had distinctive talents vocally and where at the peak of their genres in terms of influence and innovation... where as Cheryl Cole isn't that great a singer but because someones written a semi-great track for her suddenly she's the bees knees. She's not exactly original or changing the face of pop music which is fine but if "Fight For This Love" wins, where will all the credit go?? cause it won't be to the writers, producers etc.

also music fans that look past the charts would also appreciate and have knowledge of the work of a writer of one of they're favourite songs whereas, the "x factor generation" are so spoonfed that most of them probably don't know that these types of songs aren't written by the so called artist
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:15
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but SOMEONE wrote that song, why should they lose out
Because if it won, Cole would be the one going up on stage to get the award not whomever wrote it?
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:20
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Not a cheat but she comes across very desperate!

You know what? It wouldn't suprise me if she won. It seems she cannot put a foot wrong at the moment, she has her fans and she is seen as the nations sweetheart. :sleep:
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:33
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but SOMEONE wrote that song, why should they lose out

should a song be discounted from the "best single" because the person who wrote it didn't sing it?

some of the best songs in history have been written and perfromed by different people
Pavarottis famous Nessun Dorma, he didn't write that
Sinatra didn't write My Way
should those songs not have won their respective awards because the singer and writer are not the same person
Fight For This Love is hardly Nessun Dorma or My Way though, is it?
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:42
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Because if it won, Cole would be the one going up on stage to get the award not whomever wrote it?
someone has to get it
the writers would rather their song won even if they dont collect it
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:46
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Because if it won, Cole would be the one going up on stage to get the award not whomever wrote it?
Why wouldn't the writers go up to collect the award?
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Old 27-01-2010, 11:50
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Fight For This Love is hardly Nessun Dorma or My Way though, is it?
no but I was just illustrating a point that it's the SONG that's up for the award and it should be the best song of the year whatever that is that wins
if that is Cheryls song then it should be her song that gets the best single award

I dont think her song is the best song of the year for the record
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Old 27-01-2010, 12:18
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no but I was just illustrating a point that it's the SONG that's up for the award and it should be the best song of the year whatever that is that wins
if that is Cheryls song then it should be her song that gets the best single award

I dont think her song is the best song of the year for the record
I was going to say, because there is no way FFTL is as lyrically clever as The Fear.

And while FFTL has been the highest selling song of 2009, The Fear was the most consistenly selling, as it was number one for longer than any other song.

This proves to me that people generally prefer The Fear to FFTL, which was bought in the hype of X Factor, and sales died down after a couple of weeks, whereas people actually liked The Fear for being a good song.
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Old 27-01-2010, 12:23
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Why wouldn't the writers go up to collect the award?
are you serious? of course if Cheryl wins, she'll be collecting the award hereslf. when Girl Aloud won for the promise the other year, did you see writers go up.. no. It was all about the girls and if Cheryl wins this year it will be the same case.
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Old 27-01-2010, 12:29
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I was going to say, because there is no way FFTL is as lyrically clever as The Fear.

And while FFTL has been the highest selling song of 2009, The Fear was the most consistenly selling, as it was number one for longer than any other song.

This proves to me that people generally prefer The Fear to FFTL, which was bought in the hype of X Factor, and sales died down after a couple of weeks, whereas people actually liked The Fear for being a good song.
yeah the Fear is a good song, well done Greg Kurstin
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Old 27-01-2010, 13:11
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Cheryl Cole's LABEL is offering a prize, not her personally as you seem to make out.

And the prize is for promoting the brits voting page, not for voting loads. From the site:
We'll be giving away a personalised ‘Fight For This Love’ platinum single award as a prize for the most active members of the team - so be sure to take screen shots of all your efforts and send them to us at goteamcheryl@googlemail.com
I assume they're looking for pictures of people handing out banners or leaflets, tweeting, making graphics or something like that. It's not encouraging multivoting at all
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Old 27-01-2010, 13:20
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I was going to say, because there is no way FFTL is as lyrically clever as The Fear.

And while FFTL has been the highest selling song of 2009, The Fear was the most consistenly selling, as it was number one for longer than any other song.

This proves to me that people generally prefer The Fear to FFTL, which was bought in the hype of X Factor, and sales died down after a couple of weeks, whereas people actually liked The Fear for being a good song.
While The Fear was #1 longer than FFTL, FFTL sold more than The Fear every week:

FFTL:
292,845
138,614
75,450
53,624
40,190

Fear:
83,367
69,002
59,671
45,629
30,961

So despite it not being #1 for as long, it was still selling more than what Lilly was selling at #1.

Cheryl would've been #1 for longer were it not for the huge acts like JLS, Leona, Gaga, BEP, etc. If they all released when Lilly did she wouldn't have stayed at #1. Cheryl had over 15,000 more sales in their third week but that wasn't enough for #1.
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Old 27-01-2010, 13:24
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yeah the Fear is a good song, well done Greg Kurstin
And Lily Allen
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Old 27-01-2010, 13:59
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oh yeah I'm sure she was in charge on the whole production process
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Old 27-01-2010, 14:18
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she says she will give a special prize to whoever makes sure she gets the most votes for best british single. isnt this blatent cheating? she is encouraging her fans to multi vote.
Who gives a shite. As long as JLS don't win, everything's good. They will win though obviously.
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Old 27-01-2010, 15:23
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oh yeah I'm sure she was in charge on the whole production process
Tell me, who would you like to win.

Face it, Cheryl is shit. Lily has so much more talent, and as Lily put it, she may not be as pretty as Cheryl, but at least she actually writes her own stuff.

And production is nothing. It's all about lyrics for me.

Good production cannot save a song (take Taio Cruz's "Break Your Heart" or Pitbull's I Know You Want Me" for example). Both utter dross.



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Old 27-01-2010, 15:35
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Ha-ha what a beggar! (I am allowed to say that right? or am I gonna get reported by someone who can dish it but can't take it?)
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Old 27-01-2010, 15:39
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Ha-ha what a beggar! (I am allowed to say that right? or am I gonna get reported by someone who can dish it but can't take it?)
She's a crap beggar at that too. There's no way she'll win. But if she was to win, well, that would pretty much sum up the public's music taste nowadays.

In fact, the nominees this year pretty much show how awful music has become. These awards are meant to represent what kind of music Britain like. And if it's Cheryl Cole, well, kill me now.

I shall be sticking to the good old NME Awards. At least I actually like more than half of the nominees there.
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