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Old 14-04-2004, 17:31
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Originally Posted by drakaina
i think maybe they are keeping Dan's disappearance open ended as it could be a useful storyline later.
The possibilities are endless.
If it involves Dan returning, it will be endlessly annoying and badly acted
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Old 14-04-2004, 18:20
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Returning after leaving his kids to be evicted after he shamelessly plunged his hand into the mortgage fund..? Well, I guess it's possible, anything is at the moment in EE, no matter how ridiculous..
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Old 14-04-2004, 18:23
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Originally Posted by Lippincote
If it involves Dan returning, it will be endlessly annoying and badly acted
lol agreed! I hope he never returns so the whole family go and search for him and they they never return either!
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Old 14-04-2004, 21:13
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I just don't care enough about them. The dad getting deported was the best news ever! Tariq is alright he has a slight personailty but the others are all terrible actors and it doesn't feel like they fit in EE. The writers are trying so hard to make the family a big part of the square but its not working. I couldn't stand all that storyline with Tariq it seemed to drag on and on. Glad the Wats are back in the spotlight now.
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Old 14-04-2004, 21:14
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Hah. And while they're away the clothes stall gets robbed.. by Alfie. Who uses the money he got for selling their stock to pay off Andy, and the whole Indecent Proposal scenario is thrown out the window and we're at least spared that irritating cliche!
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Old 14-04-2004, 22:04
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All I am going to say is the day that family moved into walford was the worst thing to happent o eastenders/every storyline revolves around them/and nobody cares
I was at my local video shop and the slaters xmas special can be bought for £3.00 4months old
I nearly gave them a tenner to burn it.
Sexiest woman jessie Wallace??????Over Suranne jones you have got to be kidding
Bring back trevor--burn the lot of them because all the have bred is other crap families like the ferriers
Oh and another thing best newcomer Kim metcalf--I think her mum rang in a couple of thousand times
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Old 14-04-2004, 22:27
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I dunno if I agree with you there.. for a lot of people when they think of EE, it's the Slaters that spring to mind. They're a lot more memorable a family than the ferreiras any day.

Yeah, I think Suranne Jones is stunning. Actually Kate, Lynne, and Sam are all much prettier than Kat Slater..

Dennis won sexiest male though, didn't he? No arguments there..
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Old 14-04-2004, 23:16
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they've had rubbish familys before the slaters. don't you remember the di marcos?
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Old 15-04-2004, 12:46
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Beppe wasn't completely useless as a character, remember how Lynne had to choose between him and Gary? Lol, I'm not sure she made the right decision really..
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Old 15-04-2004, 13:51
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Originally Posted by Rubbery Monkey
They arent looking hard enough for their mum. As we've all said it's ridiculious for BOTH parents to vanish, and don't they have any other family at all??
They only phoned their mother and didn't even bother going to her flat to see if she was in. It isn't even that far away really!

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Old 15-04-2004, 15:11
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I also find it hard to believe that the "Walford" building society let them get away with not paying the mortgage for 10 months. Does this building society not have a telephone?? Most banks and building society's will ring if you dont reply to letters, before the baliff comes knocking. Do the Ferriera kids never answer the phone even when Dan's away?
Everything about the Ferriera's storylines from day 1 has been dull and boring, that kidney fiasco, Ash's gambling, Tariq, Adi's love and hate for Dan - who cares??
I say send them to India to find Dan and let them never return.
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Old 15-04-2004, 15:15
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Lol, the building society probably rang them once while they were out and never tried again. The Ferreiras put this technique into action quite often themselves.
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Old 15-04-2004, 17:04
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To be fair, in a rare moment of realism, a month or two ago Adi was shown going through a batch of 'official' looking letters addressed to dan, then deciding not to open them and shoving them in a drawer.

Wow, I managed to stay awake during a scene with Adi in it
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Old 15-04-2004, 17:23
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Really? Oh, I must've missed that.. When it comes to Adi it seems I don't have your willpower and probably did doze off..
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Old 17-04-2004, 02:49
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i think a murder/suicide plot wud be good.we all know the father is a crackpot.he got his kids to pretend their mum was dead so he did it for real
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Old 17-04-2004, 18:28
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can anyone tell me if ronnie ferrera played the "half man half beast" role in american werewolf in london, the part were david kesslar first changes into the werewolf in nurse alix's flat,if it wasn't him it sure does look like him
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Old 21-04-2004, 00:26
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Originally Posted by Lippincote
To be fair, in a rare moment of realism, a month or two ago Adi was shown going through a batch of 'official' looking letters addressed to dan, then deciding not to open them and shoving them in a drawer.

Wow, I managed to stay awake during a scene with Adi in it
That is true but the likelyhood of the building society not ringing up (i mean more than once) to check what was going on is pretty far fetched for a soap that likes to be "real". I worked in a building society for 2 years and the baliffs were a very final resort, telephone contact would always come first. It's hard to believe they didnt try at all once Dan was gone!
Hey on the bright side it's been over a week since we last saw them on screen
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Old 21-04-2004, 11:52
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Originally Posted by Garbage
Lmao.. Oh yeah, as for Gavin.. he left because the ferreiras did somthing almost-interesting by bullying him outta there for Shirley, who went off to see her children someplace. At least that was one small considerate move the EE people made for their viewers.
Yeah, she went off to see her son in Australia. She arranged that, and the sale/lease? of her flat, a new home for her cat and all her packing in a morning.
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Old 21-04-2004, 11:54
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Originally Posted by Rubbery Monkey
That is true but the likelyhood of the building society not ringing up (i mean more than once) to check what was going on is pretty far fetched for a soap that likes to be "real". I worked in a building society for 2 years and the baliffs were a very final resort, telephone contact would always come first. It's hard to believe they didnt try at all once Dan was gone!
Hey on the bright side it's been over a week since we last saw them on screen
ha ha ha - I had a commital to prison notice without anybody making telephone contact with me. That was council tax though, not a mortgage.
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Old 21-04-2004, 12:10
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To be honest I think the Ferreiras are symptomatic of the current decline in EE. To be honest the BBC should admit defeat and loose them now. I also think the Andy Hunter character is utterly unconvincing and should disappear. They have ruined Alfie Moon, he used to be funny and happy go lucky. Now I want to climb into my tv and tell Kat what is going on. I really think fans are annoyed that their marriage is hitting the skids so quickly. EE has become so fragmented lately. There are endless isolated characters such as Gus, Kelly, Laura, Minty etc, etc who nobody cares about.

I also think the show has lost a lot of credibility by becoming to involved in family feuds and ganster storylines. I feel the show has often had a mysoginistic tone of late since the ill advised return of Dirty Den (worse than Bet Lynch's awful return to Corrie!). The strengths of the show need to be re-developed. Id like to see the writers be more creative with Kat and Alfie and not just break them up. I think they should re-cast Michele and bring her back (with Grant's son in toe). I'd also like to see Peggy return. The BBC and Berridge have to develop new strong characters though and not just keep tempting back people who have left. It often doesn't work.

About 3 years ago EE was beating Corrie hands down. Oh how times have changed! Corrie is head and shoulders above EE these days and looks like it will continue going from strength to strength.
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Old 21-04-2004, 13:08
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Originally Posted by Lenfairclough
To be honest I think the Ferreiras are symptomatic of the current decline in EE. To be honest the BBC should admit defeat and loose them now.

I also think the Andy Hunter character is utterly unconvincing and should disappear.

They have ruined Alfie Moon, he used to be funny and happy go lucky. . I really think fans are annoyed that their marriage is hitting the skids so quickly.

EE has become so fragmented lately. There are endless isolated characters such as Gus, Kelly, Laura, Minty etc, etc who nobody cares about.

I'd also like to see Peggy return.

EE problem too many trendies working for it who think they should decide what we like. Cut the strings admit defeat and ditch them now.

Andy Hunter is totally unconvincing in the part he plays in EE a waste of space. Even Minty is more frighteneing

Alfie was a breath of fresh air into a failing EE. So what do they do they make him as miserable as the rest of them. Happy go lucky Alfie was able to charm himself into running a pub so a little thing like dealing with a pantomime crook like andy would be childs play to him

Get rid of the useless characters or else give them a decent storyline. Im thinking about Gus here, another good actor wasted

As for Peggy returning NNNNNNNOOOOOOOO she was a one dimensional character who was well past her sell by date even in the Carry on films
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Old 21-04-2004, 14:10
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When they brought The Slaters in everyone hated them too, and a few of them could still be got rid of without much of a problem (Zoe and little Mo eg who have been in and out without it really affecting the family dynamic) People keep talking abuot what a waste the Di Marco's were but equally, Beppe had some good story lines with Sandra the Ex, Gianni was brilliant and also got some good stuff out of his fling with that sawalha sister, and the daughter whose name I can't recall was involved with the whole Steve Owen, matthew ashtray murder business. I for one have fond memories, even if the mother was appalling. I'm not keen on the ferrerias either, but I think given time there's still hope isn't there?
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Old 21-04-2004, 14:40
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No i don't think they have a chance, the Ferreira's need axing!At the same time they should axe Andy, Zoe, and never bring back Little Mo!
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Old 21-04-2004, 14:45
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Originally Posted by maimou
. I'm not keen on the ferrerias either, but I think given time there's still hope isn't there?

They should be dumped for their dodgy facial hair alone
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Old 21-04-2004, 16:20
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Originally Posted by alan45
EE problem too many trendies working for it who think they should decide what we like. Cut the strings admit defeat and ditch them now.

Andy Hunter is totally unconvincing in the part he plays in EE a waste of space. Even Minty is more frighteneing

Alfie was a breath of fresh air into a failing EE. So what do they do they make him as miserable as the rest of them. Happy go lucky Alfie was able to charm himself into running a pub so a little thing like dealing with a pantomime crook like andy would be childs play to him

Get rid of the useless characters or else give them a decent storyline. Im thinking about Gus here, another good actor wasted

As for Peggy returning NNNNNNNOOOOOOOO she was a one dimensional character who was well past her sell by date even in the Carry on films

To be honest I think it's past giving characters storylines. Characters like Gus lack characterisation, so like with the Ferreiras when they get storylines they are not involving. The problem has been that the characters are not being defined enough these days. The more I think about it the more Im beginning to think that EE might be in real trouble and not just going through a bad patch. In fairness the show should be at peak quality now after the return of Dirty Den. But it really hasnt worked. As I said earlier I hope they will be cautious about bringing back old greats such as Mel Owen or Grant, cos often they end up being pale imitations of before.

What can save EE? And i think we are ultimately talking saving the show... Careful consideration, strong new characters and a return to character rather than plots based around the seamier side of life. They also need to get their casting right which is where Corrie has done much better. The characters on Corrie are more sympathetic and therefor more believeable when they get the big stories.
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