[kimindex]

There's a new (I think) new programme on the JonBenet case tonight, for anyone interested:

Investigation Discovery 11pm (repeated 3am)
True Crime with Aphrodite Jones
http://www.discoveryuk.com/tv-guide/...NG&filter=1800

JonBenet Ramsey's murder continues to baffle investigators, years after it happened. Aphrodite Jones digs for answers to a case that has raised a lot of questions.

[Jaycee Dove]

Originally Posted by Stegan

The Zigmund Adamski Case was a really fascinating case from 1980, as it involved supporting testimony from serving police officers.

Alan Godfrey was one of the two police officers to inspect the body of the deceased Zigmund Adamski. Adamski's body was found lying on a heap of coal in Tomlin's coal yard in the town of Todmorden at 15:45 on Wednesday June 11, 1980. .

This was indeed a very puzzling case and one that I know very well indeed. Full details are in the book - The Pennine UFO Mystery - given that the sequel also involving Alan Godfrey saw him claim an alien contact UFO encounter from his patrol car just half a mile away from where the body was found and some 6 months later.

The link between the two is wholly circumstantial and I was one of the first to make the link in print and regret doing so as it got Alan into a bit of trouble at the time.

In reality there is probably no UFO connection between these coincidental events - but there were seemingly good reasons to ponder at the time which I can happily elaborate on if you wish,

[d0lphin]

Originally Posted by kimindex

There's a new (I think) new programme on the JonBenet case tonight, for anyone interested:

Investigation Discovery 11pm (repeated 3am)
True Crime with Aphrodite Jones
http://www.discoveryuk.com/tv-guide/...NG&filter=1800

Hmmm I saw a documentary about this case a few years ago, and I was under the impression it was solved and the perpatrator was someone who had died - maybe new evidence has come to light?

[kimindex]

Originally Posted by d0lphin

Hmmm I saw a documentary about this case a few years ago, and I was under the impression it was solved and the perpatrator was someone who had died - maybe new evidence has come to light?

I don't think it's been solved. There was a suspect who confessed but was found not to have been involved a while ago and there was a fair bit of publicity about that. The last moves seems to be about re-questioning her brother a year ago (as far as I can tell) and the case being re-opened.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-reopened.html

(I meant that the documentary was new (I think), not that it had new evidence. Probably just a review).

[Himindoors]

The Cumberland Spaceman photo.
I really do believe that the photographer did not see 'him' in the background, when he took the picture.
Real creepy that.

[Apple_Crumble]

Originally Posted by Himindoors

The Cumberland Spaceman photo.
I really do believe that the photographer did not see 'him' in the background, when he took the picture.
Real creepy that.

The Spaceman is very much a mystery. The photograph is genuine which makes it even more baffling.

[lisa_joli]

Bump!

[kimindex]

I've just read in the Fortean Times that there's a theory that Gaddafi was actually Lord Lucan and had had plastic surgery:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=lucan...t:429,r:9,s:12

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=lucan...t:429,r:2,s:61

Their noses are different but Gaddafi's nose as a young man looks different:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=young...1t:429,r:3,s:0

(Not saying I believe it (I don't) but I was surprised never to have heard it before and can't find anything much on the net).

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by TelevisionUser

Future real life mysteries that have intrigued and baffled you...

It's now historical record that humans set foot on Mars in 2036 in the form of a multinational crew from the USA, Russia, European Union, etc.

However, the real surprise takes place 21 years later in the autumn of 2057 during the planet-wide Martian Geophysical Survey when geologists stumble across what is quite clearly an artificial trackway. Initial analysis of the underlying bedrock indicates that these tracks really are artificial as there are metal fragments in the rock and that these tracks are thousands of years old.

This information is relayed back to Earth and after much discussion, US President Eleanora Martinez and UN Secretary General Fernando da Silva decide to hold a joint press conference and go public with this discovery with all the information being made freely available. Now who, and what structure, made those tracks?

Originally Posted by Mandark

Very interesting!!

Originally Posted by TelevisionUser

You might be interested to know, Mandark, that that very post was inspired by, and based upon, certain US intelligence goings on that are highlighted in this book here: http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Psyc.../9781902636207

Further to the above posts, it now turns out that Google Books have digitised and made public the relevent section of David Morehouse's book Psychic Warrior. That section can be read right here http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9...page&q&f=false and make of it what you will.

[TedBovis]

The Dyatlov Pass Incident.

Nine students die in a situation that sounds like something out of a horror film:

http://www.forteantimes.com/features..._incident.html

What the hell happened there?

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Lord Lucan.

I mean, the mystery to me is how anybody could fail to see he took on the alter ego of Freddie Mercury. Queen had their first hit the same year he vanished, and in the 80s, he reverted to his pre-74 look again, with short hair and moustache.

[Mandark]

Originally Posted by TedBovis

The Dyatlov Pass Incident.

Nine students die in a situation that sounds like something out of a horror film:

http://www.forteantimes.com/features..._incident.html

What the hell happened there?

I remember this was discussed earlier in the thread. See post #179.

[woot_whoo]

Who was R. M. Qualtrough?

Whatever happened to Paula Welden and the others who disappeared in the 'Bennington Triangle'? Could an unrecognised serial killer have been on the loose in area at the time?

Who wrote the Voynich Manuscript and what is its true purpose?

[Hobbes1966]

I haven't come across this thread before but I've just read it all (took forever and I still need to go back to read the links) Thank you for bumping it. Its completely fascinating and a little spooky

[The Golem]

Originally Posted by TelevisionUser

Further to the above posts, it now turns out that Google Books have digitised and made public the relevent section of David Morehouse's book Psychic Warrior. That section can be read right here http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9...page&q&f=false and make of it what you will.

What's all this rubbish? How can you have future mysteries? Behave!

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by The Golem

What's all this rubbish? How can you have future mysteries? Behave!

However, it is safe to say that any actual artificial trackways would, at some future stage, be physically discovered and photographed so it was a valid point to make.

[TelevisionUser]

Originally Posted by Hobbes1966

I haven't come across this thread before but I've just read it all (took forever and I still need to go back to read the links) Thank you for bumping it. Its completely fascinating and a little spooky

lf you really want spooky at nighttime, Hobbes1966, you might care to listen to the first part of this track here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfo_SL5V3og but make sure that you've got the light on!

[woot_whoo]

A few more spooky tales of mystery for your persusal.

The Bunnyman: Two true stories here seem to have been responsible for a subsequent slew of urban legends in the area, but those original stories are baffling enough, in my opinion.

The first incident was reported the evening of October 20, 1970 by USAFA Cadet Bob Bennett and his fiancée, Dusty, who were visiting relatives on Guinea Road in Burke. Around midnight, while returning from a football game, they parked their car in a field on Guinea Road to talk. As they sat in the front seat with the car running, they noticed something moving outside the rear window. Moments later the front passenger window was smashed and there was a white-clad figure standing near the broken window. Bennett turned the car around while the man screamed at them about trespassing, including "You're on private property and I have your tag number." As they drove down the road they discovered a hatchet on the car floor.

When the police asked for a description of the man, Bob insisted he was wearing a white suit with long bunny ears, but Dusty remembered something white and pointed like a Ku Klux Klan hood. They both remembered seeing his face clearly, but in the darkness they could not determine his race. The police returned the hatchet to Bennett after examination. Bennett was required to report the incident upon his return to the USAFA. It was later confirmed in Fairfax Police records that the man was wearing a bunny suit with ears.

The second reported sighting occurred on the evening of October 29, 1970, when construction security guard Paul Phillips approached a man standing on the porch of an unfinished home in Kings Park West on Guinea Road. Phillips said the man was wearing a gray, black, and white bunny suit and was about 20 years old, 5 feet 8 inches (1.73 m) tall, and weighed about 175 pounds (79 kg). The man began chopping at a porch post with a long-handled axe, saying "All you people trespass around here. If you don't get out of here, I'm going to bust you on the head."

The Fairfax County Police opened investigations into both incidents, but both were eventually closed for lack of evidence. Very strange - who on earth was this odd, threatening character and why was he spooking people in a bunny suit?

Phone Call from a Dead Man: Snopes lists this one as true. In September 2008, a train crashed in California killing 25 people. One of the passengers was Charles Peck, whose mobile phone had, for eleven hours after the crash, placed about 35 calls to various members of his family, who only heard static when they answered. This led rescuers to narrow down the field of search according to where the signal was coming from, and eventually they found Peck, an hour after the last call was made. However, he had been dead for twelve hours: killed on impact. The mobile phone which had made the calls and led the rescuers to the body was, apparently, never found.

The Flannan Isles Lighthouse Mystery: This one has always been quite spooky - a group of experienced lighthouse keepers all disappeared from their post on a reputedly haunted, lonely island. Searchers found evidence of a storm, but the log kept indoors made it clear that all damage had occurred before the disappearances, and the keepers' oilskins (which they were unlikely to have ventured outside without) were all in place but one. If I recall correctly, there were also several spooky entries in the log, such as 'one of us is crying' and 'we're all praying'....

[riceuten]

Originally Posted by Lizzy11268

1) The Bermuda Triangle - real or myth? Is it just coincidence that so many ships and planes disappear??

Magnetic anomalies throwing people off course. There's an excellent book around from the 1970s called "The Bermuda Triangle Mystery...Solved" which does address some of the issues raised. There don't appear to have been that many people disappearing since then.

Originally Posted by Lizzy11268

2) Jack the Ripper. Many theories have come up over the years, none of which I am convinced by, although I reckon Patricia Cornwell had a point!

I quite like the royal conspiracy theory and Sir William Gull as the murderer.

Originally Posted by Lizzy11268

3) Madeleine Mccann and Ben Needham, where did they go? - what really happened? Still hoping for an outcome to those in the future.

Ben Needham I have no idea. Maddy McCann I suspect was either accidentally killed and disposed of by the parents, or really was snatched by persons unknown. There was a gypsy girl who disappeared not that far away from her in Seville at the same time and got no publicity whatsoever; they think she was snatched as well.

Originally Posted by Lizzy11268

4) Where exactly did Lord Lucan go?

A mercenary was found dead in southern Africa with an entry for Lucan in his address book "Lord Lucan c/o Hotel Les Ambassadeurs, Beira, Mozambique", where he had never visited previously. I assume he fled the scene after the murder and has lived the rest of his life somewhere like that until death. He was rich enough I assume to have salted away a few quid and it doesn't cost much to live out there.


Anyone have any more? Any theories on any of the above?

I find it all intriguing.....[/quote]

[woot_whoo]

Originally Posted by riceuten

I quite like the royal conspiracy theory and Sir William Gull as the murderer.

A bit of a non-starter, and pretty thoroughly debunked. Gull was not even a suspect until the 1970s. There's a lot of info here.

[DinkyDoobie]

How do they get exactly 437 beans in every can

[woot_whoo]

The Bloody Benders: The Benders were a family of serial killers who owned a small general store and inn in Kansas from 1872 to 1873. The family consisted of John Bender, his wife Kate, son John Jr. and daughter Kate.

When a guest would stay at the Benders' inn, the hosts would give the guest a seat of honour at the table which was positioned over a trap door that led down into the cellar. With the victim's back to the curtain Kate would distract the guest, while John Bender or his son would come from behind the curtain and strike the guest on the skull with a hammer. The victim's throat was then cut by one of the women to ensure his death. The body was then dropped through the trap door. Once in the cellar, the body would be stripped and later buried somewhere on the prairie.

A chap whose relative had went missing tracked him to the inn and, although he didn't find him, he suspected something was odd. He made an excuse and left (saving his own life, presumably) and immediately alerted the authorities, who accompanied him back to the inn, which had been hastily deserted. They did, however, find a slew of shallow graves, numbering at least nineteen bodies of varying gender and age. Despite a huge, nationwide search, not one member of the family was ever found, although reports persisted of sightings of some of them, from the apparently striking Kate Jr to the guttural, immigrant parents and the slow son. One particularly interesting postscript, I remember from one of those old 'Greatest Unsolved Crimes' books, but I can only find information on it from another forum on the net:

It recounts an incident several years later, in which the residents of a tiny Kansas village found one of their neighbours, a man called Joe Monahan, dead in his mountain shack. Joe had come to the town only a few years before and made a meagre living from the few chickens he owned; generally keeping to himself and mixing with the village folk only on matters of trade around a camp-fire. When his body was discovered and brought down to the village for interment, the mortician made a staggering discovery - little Joe Monahan had been a woman! The village men ransacked his/her house in hope of finding some clue to the sad little figure's identity - and discovered only one thing: a yellowed, worn newspaper clipping on the disappearance of Kate Bender and her family. Could Monahan have been an alter ego assumed by the villainous Kate in order to elude authorities? And if so, what became of the rest of her wicked family?

[Lastlaugh]

Originally Posted by woot_whoo

The Bloody Benders: The Benders were a family of serial killers who owned a small general store and inn in Kansas from 1872 to 1873. The family consisted of John Bender, his wife Kate, son John Jr. and daughter Kate.

When a guest would stay at the Benders' inn, the hosts would give the guest a seat of honour at the table which was positioned over a trap door that led down into the cellar. With the victim's back to the curtain Kate would distract the guest, while John Bender or his son would come from behind the curtain and strike the guest on the skull with a hammer. The victim's throat was then cut by one of the women to ensure his death. The body was then dropped through the trap door. Once in the cellar, the body would be stripped and later buried somewhere on the prairie.

A chap whose relative had went missing tracked him to the inn and, although he didn't find him, he suspected something was odd. He made an excuse and left (saving his own life, presumably) and immediately alerted the authorities, who accompanied him back to the inn, which had been hastily deserted. They did, however, find a slew of shallow graves, numbering at least nineteen bodies of varying gender and age. Despite a huge, nationwide search, not one member of the family was ever found, although reports persisted of sightings of some of them, from the apparently striking Kate Jr to the guttural, immigrant parents and the slow son. One particularly interesting postscript, I remember from one of those old 'Greatest Unsolved Crimes' books, but I can only find information on it from another forum on the net:

It recounts an incident several years later, in which the residents of a tiny Kansas village found one of their neighbours, a man called Joe Monahan, dead in his mountain shack. Joe had come to the town only a few years before and made a meagre living from the few chickens he owned; generally keeping to himself and mixing with the village folk only on matters of trade around a camp-fire. When his body was discovered and brought down to the village for interment, the mortician made a staggering discovery - little Joe Monahan had been a woman! The village men ransacked his/her house in hope of finding some clue to the sad little figure's identity - and discovered only one thing: a yellowed, worn newspaper clipping on the disappearance of Kate Bender and her family. Could Monahan have been an alter ego assumed by the villainous Kate in order to elude authorities? And if so, what became of the rest of her wicked family?

Wow, that's an interesting one!

[Vodka_Drinka]

Originally Posted by woot_whoo

The Flannan Isles Lighthouse Mystery: This one has always been quite spooky - a group of experienced lighthouse keepers all disappeared from their post on a reputedly haunted, lonely island. Searchers found evidence of a storm, but the log kept indoors made it clear that all damage had occurred before the disappearances, and the keepers' oilskins (which they were unlikely to have ventured outside without) were all in place but one. If I recall correctly, there were also several spooky entries in the log, such as 'one of us is crying' and 'we're all praying'....

I saw a documentary about this on one of the channels on Sky a few years ago and it was one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. Something about it sent a shudder down my spine.

[Queen__Bea]

Lee Evans and Michael McIntyre. How anyone can find either of these men funny is a genuine mystery to me. Unless it's just that people want to gather and laugh at anything for the sake of it, or they think that everyone else thinks they are funny and just want to fit in. But seriously, it actually mystifies me what anyone sees in them. They are both about as funny as watching an orphanage burn.